Oppenheimer(奥本海默)[2023]电影台词本阅读、下载和单词统计

电影名称：奥本海默
英文名称：Oppenheimer
年代：2023

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时间	英文	中文
[01:31]	“PROMETHEUS STOLE FIRE FROM THE GODS AND GAVE IT TO MAN.”	“普罗米修斯从众神那里窃取火种并将其送给了人类”
[01:35]	“FOR THIS HE WAS CHAINED TO A ROCK AND TORTURED FOR ETERNITY.”	“为此 他被锁在岩石上 永生永世遭受折磨”
[01:48]	Dr. Oppenheimer.	奥本海默博士
[01:51]	Dr. Oppenheimer.	奥本海默博士
[01:54]	As we begin, I believe you have a statement to read into the record.	开始的时候 我希望你宣读一份声明记录在案
[01:59]	Yes, your honor.	好的 法官大人
[02:00]	-We’re not judges, Doctor. -No.	-我们不是法官 博士 -明白
[02:10]	Members of the security board,	各位安全委员会成员
[02:13]	the so-called interrogatory information in your indictment of me	你们在阅读我的起诉书中所谓的审讯信息时
[02:16]	cannot be fairly understood except in the context	如果不结合我的生活和工作
[02:19]	of my life, and my work.	是无法公正地理解的
[02:22]	How long did he testify?	他作证多久了？
[02:25]	Honestly, I forget.	说实话 我忘了
[02:28]	The whole hearing took a month.	整个听证会持续了一个月
[02:30]	-An ordeal. -Oh, I’ve only read the transcripts.	-一场磨难 -哦 我只读了文字记录
[02:36]	-Who’d want to justify their whole life? -You weren’t there?	-谁愿意公开自己的一生呢？ -你当时不在场吗？
[02:39]	As chairman, I wasn’t allowed to be.	作为主席 我不能出现
[02:41]	Are they really going to ask about it?	他们真的会问吗？
[02:44]	It was years ago.	那是几年前的事了
[02:45]	-Four years ago. -Five.	-四年前 -五
[02:48]	Oppenheimer still divides America.	奥本海默仍然分裂美国
[02:49]	The committee’s going to want to know where you stood.	委员会想知道你的立场
[02:52]	Senator Thurmond asked me to say not to feel that you’re on trial.	瑟蒙德参议员让我说不要觉得你在受审
[02:56]	Oh, funny. I didn’t, until you just said that.	有意思 你这么说我才觉得
[02:59]	-Really, Mr. Strauss… -It’s Admiral.	-真的 施特劳斯先生…… -是将军
[03:01]	Admiral. Admiral Strauss, this is a formality.	施特劳斯将军 这只是例行公事
[03:04]	President Eisenhower has asked you to be in his cabinet.	艾森豪威尔总统钦点你加入他的内阁
[03:07]	The Senate really has no choice but to confirm him.	参议院别无选择 只能确认他的任命
[03:08]	And if they bring up Oppenheimer?	如果他们提到奥本海默呢？
[03:11]	When they bring up Oppenheimer, you answer honestly,	要是他们提到奥本海默 你就如实回答
[03:13]	no senator can deny you did your duty.	没有参议员能否认你尽了自己的职责
[03:16]	It’ll be uncomfortable.	确实很不舒服
[03:18]	Who’d want to justify their whole life?	谁愿意公开自己的一生呢？
[03:25]	Why did you leave the United States?	你为什么离开美国？
[03:30]	I… I wanted to study the new physics.	我……我想学习新物理学
[03:33]	Was there nowhere here?	在美国不行吗？
[03:35]	I thought Berkeley had the leading theoretical physics department.	我以为伯克利大学有一流的理论物理系
[03:39]	Yes, once I built it.	是的 直到我创建它
[03:42]	But first I had to go to Europe.	但我得先去欧洲
[03:43]	I went to Cambridge, to study under Patrick Blackett.	我去了剑桥 跟随帕特里克·布莱克特学习
[03:46]	Were you happier there than in America?	你在那里比在美国更快乐吗？
[03:49]	-Happier? -Yes.	-更快乐？ -是的
[03:55]	No.	不
[03:57]	No, I, uh…	不 我 呃……
[04:01]	I was homesick and…	我想家了 而且……
[04:04]	emotionally immature…	情感很不成熟……
[04:07]	Troubled by visions of a…	被隐藏宇宙的……
[04:10]	hidden universe.	幻象所折磨
[04:24]	Useless in the lab.	做实验笨手笨脚
[04:30]	Christ, Oppenheimer.	天啊 奥本海默
[04:32]	Have you had any sleep?	没睡好觉吗？
[04:36]	Start again.	再来
[04:38]	I need to go to a lecture, sir.	我要去听讲座 先生
[04:40]	Why?	为什么？
[04:41]	It’s Niels Bohr.	是尼尔斯·玻尔
[04:46]	I completely forgot.	我完全忘了
[04:48]	Alright! Let’s go.	好了 我们走
[04:52]	Oh no, not you, Oppenheimer.	不 不是说你 奥本海默
[04:54]	You finish coating those plates.	你得把这些盘子收好
[05:36]	Quantum physics is not a step forward.	量子物理学不是向前迈出的一步
[05:40]	It is a new way to understand reality.	而是一种理解现实的新方法
[05:43]	Einstein’s opened the door.	爱因斯坦打开了门
[05:45]	Now we are peering through, seeing a world inside our world,	透过它 我们现在看到了一个我们世界里的世界
[05:50]	a world of energy and paradox that not everyone can accept.	一个充满能量和矛盾的世界 不是每个人都能接受的
[06:39]	You alright?	你没事吧？
[06:41]	Nils, meet J. Robert Oppenheimer.	尼尔斯 这位是J·罗伯特·奥本海默
[06:43]	What’s the J stand for?	J代表什么？
[06:45]	Nothing, apparently.	什么也没有
[06:46]	You were at my lecture. You asked the only good question.	你听了我的讲座 问了唯一一个好问题
[06:49]	No one’s denying his insight.	没人否认他的洞察力
[06:51]	It’s his laboratory work that leaves a little to be desired.	但他做实验有点不尽如人意
[06:54]	I heard you give the same answer…	我听了你同样的回答……
[06:55]	At Harvard, yes, and you asked the same question.	在哈佛 是的 你问了同样的问题
[06:58]	Why ask again?	为什么又问？
[06:59]	I hadn’t liked your answer.	我不喜欢你的回答
[07:02]	-Did you like it better yesterday? -A lot.	-你比较喜欢昨天的？ -好多了
[07:05]	You can lift a stone without being ready for the snake that’s revealed.	在你准备好对付蛇之前 千万不要搬开大石头
[07:10]	Now it seems you’re ready.	现在看来你已经准备好了
[07:12]	But you don’t enjoy the lab.	但你不喜欢实验室
[07:14]	So get out of Cambridge, with its beakers and potions.	所以离开剑桥的瓶瓶罐罐吧
[07:17]	Go somewhere they’ll let you think.	去一个能让你思考的地方
[07:21]	Where?	去哪好？
[07:23]	-Göttingen. -Born.	-哥廷根 -波恩
[07:25]	Born.	对 波恩
[07:26]	Get to Germany, study under Max Born, learn the ways of theory.	去德国 投入马克斯·玻恩门下 学习理论物理学
[07:31]	I’ll send word.	我为你写推荐信
[07:33]	Worm hole.	有虫子
[07:36]	How’s your mathematics?	你的数学怎么样？
[07:37]	Not good enough for the physicist he wants to be.	如果他想成为物理学家 可能还不够好
[07:40]	Algebra’s like sheet music,	代数就像音乐
[07:42]	the important thing isn’t can you read music, it’s can you hear it.	重要的不是读懂音乐 而是能听见音乐
[07:46]	Can you hear the music, Robert?	你能听见音乐吗 罗伯特？
[07:49]	Yes, I can.	我可以
[08:27]		艾略特 《荒原》（1922）
[08:38]		毕加索 《交叉双臂坐着的女人》
[08:49]		斯特拉文斯基 《春之祭》（1913）
[09:27]	The senator from Wyoming.	有请怀俄明州参议员
[09:29]	Admiral Strauss, I’m interested in your relationship	施特劳斯将军 我对你和罗伯特·奥本海默博士的关系
[09:32]	with Dr. J. Robert Oppenheimer.	很感兴趣
[09:34]	You met him in 1947.	你在1947年认识他
[09:37]	Correct.	没错
[09:38]	You were a commissioner of the Atomic Energy Commission.	你曾担任原子能委员会委员
[09:41]	I was, but I actually met Robert in my capacity	是的 但其实我是以普林斯顿高等研究院
[09:44]	as board member of the Institute for Advanced Study at Princeton. It was…	董事会成员的身份认识罗伯特的 战后……
[09:49]	after the war, he was world-renowned as the great man of physics,	他被誉为世界著名的物理学大师
[09:52]	and I was determined to get him to run the Institute.	我决定让他来管理这个研究所
[10:06]	Dr. Oppenheimer. An honor.	奥本海默博士 很荣幸见到你
[10:09]	Mr. Strauss.	施特斯先生
[10:10]	It’s pronounced “Strauss”.	念作“施特劳斯”
[10:13]	“Oppenheimer”, “Oppenheimer”…	奥本海姆 奥本海默……
[10:14]	Either way you say it, they know I’m Jewish.	不管你怎么读 他们都知道我是犹太人
[10:17]	I’m president of Temple Emanu-El in Manhattan.	我是曼哈顿的以马内利会堂的主席
[10:20]	“Strauss” is just a Southern pronunciation.	“施特劳斯”是南方发音
[10:23]	Anyway, welcome to the Institute. I think you’ll be very happy here.	总之 欢迎来到研究所 我想你在这里会很开心的
[10:27]	Yes, well, you’ll love the commute.	对了 通勤很方便 你会喜欢的
[10:29]	The position comes with that house for you and your wife,	那橦房子就是为你入职后和你妻子准备的
[10:31]	and your… is it two children?	还有你的……是两个孩子吧？
[10:33]	Yes, two.	对 两个
[10:35]	I’m a great admirer of your work.	我很欣赏你的工作
[10:38]	You’re a physicist by training, Mr. Strauss?	你是受过正规学习的物理学家吗 施特劳斯先生？
[10:40]	I’m sorry, uh, common room, four o’clock tea.	抱歉 这里是公共休息室 四点钟准时提供茶点
[10:42]	No, I’m not trained in physics or anything else.	不 我没有物理或其他方面的证书
[10:45]	I’m a self-made man.	我是自学成材的
[10:46]	Ah, I can relate to that.	啊 我能理解
[10:48]	-Really? -Yes, my father was one.	-真的？ -是的 我父亲就是这样一个人
[10:52]	And this would be your office.	这将是你的办公室
[11:04]	I’m told he’s there in most afternoons.	我听说他大多数下午都在那里
[11:06]	You know, I’ve always wondered	我想说 我一直很好奇
[11:08]	why you didn’t involve him in the Manhattan Project.	你为什么不让他参与曼哈顿计划
[11:13]	Greatest scientific mind of our time.	他是我们时代最伟大的科学家
[11:15]	Of his time.	是他的时代
[11:17]	Einstein published his Theory of Relativity	爱因斯坦发表相对论
[11:20]	more than 40 years ago now.	已经过去40多年了
[11:23]	Could never embrace the quantum world it revealed.	他永远不能接受已经揭示的量子世界
[11:26]	“God doesn’t play dice.”	“上帝不会掷骰子”
[11:28]	Precisely.	正是如此
[11:30]	You never thought of studying physics formally, Mr. Strauss?	施特劳斯先生 你从没想过正式学习物理吗？
[11:32]	I had offers, but… I chose to sell shoes.	有人曾建议 但是……我选择卖鞋
[11:35]	Lewis Strauss was once a lowly shoe salesman.	谁能想到刘易斯·施特劳斯曾经是个卖鞋的
[11:39]	No, just a shoe salesman.	对 鞋子销售员
[11:45]	-I’d love to introduce you. -No need.	-我很乐意为你引见 -不必
[11:48]	I’ve known him for years.	我认识他很多年了
[12:12]	Albert.	阿尔伯特
[12:18]	What was that? What did you say to him?	怎么回事? 你对他说什么了？
[12:24]	Oh, he’s fine.	噢 没什么
[12:27]	Mr. Strauss, there are… things in my past you ought to be aware of.	施特劳斯先生 我过去……有些事你应该知道的
[12:32]	Well, as chairman of the AEC,	噢 身为原子能委员会主席
[12:33]	I have access to your security file. I’ve read it.	我有权查阅你的安全档案
[12:36]	-You’re not worried? -No.	-你不担心吗？ -不
[12:38]	Why would I be worried, after everything you’ve done for your country?	你为国家付出这么多 我有什么好担心的？
[12:40]	Well, times change, Mr. Strauss.	嗯 时代变了 施特劳斯先生
[12:42]	Well, the purpose of this institute	这个研究所的目的
[12:44]	is to provide a haven for independent minds.	是为独立思想提供避风港
[12:47]	That’s you.	就是你
[12:49]	You are the man for the job.	你是这项工作的最佳人选
[12:51]	Well, then I’ll consider it.	好的 我会考虑的
[12:53]	I’ll see you at the AEC meeting tomorrow.	明天原子能委员会会议上见
[13:00]	This is one of the most prestigious appointments in the country.	这是这个国家最受尊重的职位之一
[13:03]	Yes, and a great commute.	是的 通勤也很棒
[13:05]	That’s why I’m considering it.	所以我还在考虑
[13:08]	So Dr. Oppenheimer brought your attention to his past associations	那么奥本海默博士有没有让你注意到他过去的事情
[13:12]	before you appointed him?	在你任命他之前？
[13:14]	Yes.	有的
[13:15]	And they didn’t concern you?	你不担心吗？
[13:16]	Just then I was entirely consumed with what he must have said	当时 我满脑子都在想他究竟说了什么
[13:19]	to Einstein to sour him on me.	让爱因斯坦对我大发雷霆
[13:25]	But later?	那之后呢？
[13:27]	Well, we all know what happened later.	后来的事人人都知道了
[13:29]	Doctor, your time in Europe,	博士 你在欧洲的那段时间
[13:31]	you seem to meet with a wide range of other countries’ physicists.	似乎结识了很多其他国家的物理学家
[13:34]	Yes, that’s right.	是的 没错
[13:35]	Any Russians?	有俄国人吗？
[13:39]	None that spring to mind. If you’ll just allow me	一时想不起 如果你允许的话
[13:41]	to continue with my statement… -Mr. Robb,	我想先继续我的陈述…… -罗博先生
[13:43]	you’ll have ample opportunity to cross-examine.	你会有足够的机会进行交叉询问的
[13:49]	After Göttingen, I moved on to Leiden, in Holland, where I first met Isidor Rabi.	哥廷根之后 我去了荷兰的莱顿 在那里我第一次见到伊西多·拉比
[13:54]	Excuse me.	不好意思
[14:00]	A yank. Lecturing on the new physics.	一个美国佬 开讲新物理学
[14:03]	This I have to hear.	这我必须听听
[14:04]	I’m an American myself.	我也是美国人
[14:06]	How surprising.	真令人惊讶
[14:08]	Let me know if you need any help with the English.
[14:25]	Wait, what’s he saying?	等等 他说什么？
[14:38]	No, thank you.	不用 谢谢
[14:39]	It’s a long way to Zurich.	去苏黎世还有很长的路
[14:41]	If you get any skinnier, we’re gonna lose you between the seat cushions.	如果你再瘦一点 可能就掉进座垫之间找不着了
[14:44]	-I’m Rabi. -Oppenheimer.	-我是拉比 -奥本海默
[14:46]	I caught your lecture on molecules.	我听了你关于分子的讲座
[14:49]	Caught some of it.	受益匪浅
[14:51]	We’re a couple of New York Jews, how do you know Dutch?	我们都是纽约犹太人 你怎么会荷兰语的？
[14:53]	Well, I thought I’d better learn it when I got here this semester.	即然这学期要来这里 我觉得最好还是学一下
[14:56]	You learned enough Dutch in six weeks to give a lecture on quantum mechanics?	你在六周内就学会了荷兰语来做一个量子力学的讲座吗？
[15:00]	I like to challenge myself.	我喜欢挑战自我
[15:01]	Quantum physics wasn’t challenging enough.	量子物理学还不够有挑战性
[15:03]	-Shvitzer？ -Shvitzer.	-凡尔赛（意第绪语） -凡尔赛?
[15:05]	Show-off.	炫耀
[15:07]	Dutch in six weeks, but you never learned Yiddish.	六个星期就学会了荷兰语 但你从来没学过意第绪语
[15:09]	They don’t speak it so much my side of the park.	我那边的人不怎么说意第绪语
[15:11]	Screw you.	去你的
[15:13]	-You homesick? -Oh, you know it.	-想家吗？ -哦 你知道的
[15:17]	Ever get the feeling our kind isn’t entirely welcome here?	有没有觉得我们这种人在这里不受欢迎？
[15:20]	Physicists?	物理学家？
[15:22]	-That’s funny. -Not in the department.	-不开玩笑 -没有区别
[15:25]	They’re all Jewish, too.	物理学家都是犹太人
[15:28]	Eat.	吃吧
[15:32]	There’s this German you have to seek out.	你得去找一个德国人
[15:35]	-Heisenberg. -Right.	-海森堡 -对
[15:47]	One might be led to the presumption that behind the quantum world	人们可能会推测 在量子世界背后
[15:51]	there still hides a real world in which causality holds,	仍然隐藏着一个存在因果关系的真实世界
[15:54]	but such speculations seem to us, to say it explicitly, fruitless.	但是这样的推测在我们看来 明确地说 是徒劳的
[15:59]	Thank you. Have a great day.	谢谢 祝大家愉快
[16:06]	-Wonderful. -Thank you.	-很捧 -谢谢
[16:08]	-Dr. Oppenheimer. -Oppenheimer, yes!	-奥本海默博士 -奥本海默 是你！
[16:11]	I liked your paper on molecules.	我喜欢你关于分子的论文
[16:13]	Probably because you inspired it.	可能是因为你启发了它
[16:14]	If I inspire anything else, let me know. We could publish together.	如果我启发了什么灵感 告诉我 我们可以一起做论文
[16:17]	-I have to get back to America. -Why?	-我必须回美国了 -为什么？
[16:20]	There’s no one there taking quantum mechanics seriously.	那里没人把量子力学当回事
[16:23]	That’s exactly why.	这就是原因
[16:25]	He’s pining for the canyons of Manhattan.	他心系曼哈顿的峡谷
[16:27]	Canyons of New Mexico.	新墨西哥州的峡谷
[16:30]	-You’re from New Mexico? -No, New York.	你从新墨西哥州来？ 不 纽约
[16:31]	But my brother and I have a ranch outside Santa Fe.	但我弟弟和我在圣达菲郊外有个农场
[16:35]	That’s the America I miss right now.	那才是我魂牵梦萦的美国
[16:37]	Then it’s best you get home, cowboys.	那你们最好赶紧回家 牛仔们
[16:40]	That’s him.	那是他
[16:41]	No, me and horses?	不 我和马？
[16:43]	I don’t think so.	我不这么认为
[16:45]	Nice to meet you.	很高兴认识你
[16:49]	Did you ever encounter Heisenberg again?	你有没有再次遇到海森堡？
[16:51]	Not in person, no, but…	不是面对面 不过……
[16:55]	you might say our paths crossed.	你可以说我们有过交集
[16:59]	On returning to America,	回到美国后
[17:00]	I accepted positions at both Caltech and up at Berkeley.	我接受了加州理工和伯克利的教职
[17:27]	Dr. Lawrence, I presume?	劳伦斯博士 是吧？
[17:31]	You must be Oppenheimer.	你一定是奥本海默
[17:33]	Yes.	是的
[17:34]	I hear you want to start a school of quantum theory.	我听说你想开一个量子理论研讨班
[17:36]	I am starting it, next door.	我要开始了 在隔壁
[17:38]	-They put you in there? -I asked for it.	-他们把你安排在这？ -我申请的
[17:40]	Wanted to be close to you experimentalists.	想接近你们这些实验物理学家
[17:42]	Theory will get you only so far.	理论总是灰色的
[17:44]	We’re building a machine to accelerate electrons.	我们正在建造一台电子加速器
[17:47]	Magnificent.	太神奇了
[17:48]	Would you like to help?	你愿意帮忙吗？
[17:49]	Build it? Oh, no. No, no.	建造? 哦 不 不 不
[17:52]	But I am working on theories I’d like to test with it.	但我正在研究一些理论 我想用它来检验一下
[17:55]	When do you start teaching?	你什么时候开始教书？
[17:56]	I’ve got my first in an hour.	一个小时后就开始第一个
[17:58]	-Seminar? -Pupil.	-研讨会？ -学生
[18:00]	One student? That’s it?	一个学生? 就一个？
[18:03]	I’m teaching something no one here has dreamt of.	我在教一些这里没有人梦想过的东西
[18:05]	But once people start hearing what you can do with it…	但一旦人们开始听说你能用它做什么……
[18:07]	There’s no going back.	就回不去了
[18:11]	-Oh, I must have missed the… -Mr. Lomanitz?	-哦 我一定走错…… -洛马尼茨先生？
[18:17]	-Yeah. -Yes, this is it.	-是我 -是的 就是这里
[18:19]	Please, take a seat.	请坐
[18:26]	What do you know about quantum mechanics?	你对量子力学了解多少？
[18:29]	I have a grasp on the basics.	只知道些皮毛
[18:30]	Then you’re doing it wrong.	那你就错了
[18:33]	Is life made up of particles or waves?	生命是由粒子还是波组成的？
[18:35]	Quantum mechanics says it’s both. How can it be both?	量子力学说两者都是 怎么可能两者都是？
[18:38]	-It can’t.	-不可能 -不可能 -It can’t.
[18:40]	But it is.	但事实如此
[18:41]	It’s paradoxical, and yet, it works.	这是矛盾的 但是 很有用
[18:55]	Thank you.	谢谢
[18:57]	Mr. Lomanitz. You’re gonna be okay.	洛马尼茨先生 你会没事的
[19:00]	Mr. Snyder.	斯奈德先生
[19:01]	Now, let’s consider a star.	现在 让我们谈一谈星星
[19:04]	A star, a vast furnace burning in outer space,	一颗恒星 就像一个在外太空燃烧的巨大熔炉
[19:07]	fire pushing outwards against its own gravity, balanced.	火焰克服自身重力向外推进 保持平衡
[19:12]	But if that furnace cools,	但一旦炉子冷却了
[19:14]	and gravity starts winning, it contracts.	重力开始占上风 它就会收缩
[19:17]	-Density increases. -Correct.	-密度增加 -正确
[19:20]	-Increasing gravity. -Increasing density.	-重力增加 -密度增加
[19:23]	-And? -It’s a vicious cycle until…	-然后呢？ -这是一个恶性循环 直到……
[19:25]	What’s the limit here?	循环的尽头是什么？
[19:28]	I don’t know. See where the math takes us.	我不知道 看看数学怎么说
[19:30]	I guarantee it’s somewhere no one’s been before us.	我保证那是我们之前没人去过的地方
[19:32]	Me?	我？
[19:34]	Yes, you. Your math is better than mine.	是的 你 你的数学比我好
[19:38]	Dr. Oppenheimer’s file contained details	在奥本海默博士的档案里
[19:41]	of his activities at Berkeley.	有他在伯克利活动的详细信息
[19:42]	Why would they have started a file on Dr. Oppenheimer before the war?	为什么他们会在战前就开始调查奥本海默博士？
[19:47]	Well, you’d have to ask Mr. Hoover.	那你得问胡佛先生了
[19:49]	I’m asking you, Admiral Strauss.	我在问你 施特劳斯将军
[19:52]	Uh, my assumption	嗯 我猜测
[19:53]	is that it was connected to his, uh,	是和他的 呃
[19:57]	left-wing political activities.	左翼政治活动有关
[20:01]	You shouldn’t let them bring their politics in the classroom, Oppie.	你不应该让他们在课堂上谈论政治 奥比
[20:05]	I wrote that.	这是我写的
[20:06]	Lawrence, you embraced the revolution in physics.	劳伦斯 你接受物理学上的革命
[20:09]	Can’t you see it everywhere else?	其他方面的革命你看不到吗？
[20:11]	Picasso, Stravinsky, Freud, Marx.	毕加索 斯特拉文斯基 弗洛伊德 马克思
[20:13]	Well, this is America, Oppie. We had our revolution.	这里是美国 我们有自己的革命
[20:17]	Seriously, keep it out of the lab.	说真的 别带它进实验室
[20:20]	Well, out of the lab	好吧 出了实验室
[20:22]	my landlady is having a discussion group tonight.	我的女房东今晚有个讨论会
[20:25]	Interested?	有兴趣吗？
[20:26]	I have sampled the Berkeley political scene.	我参加过一些伯克利的政治聚会
[20:28]	It’s all just philosophy post-grads and communists talking integration.	都是些哲学研究生和共产主义者在高谈阔论团结
[20:32]	You don’t care about integration?	你不在乎团结吗？
[20:34]	I want to vote for it, not talk about it.	我想投票赞成 不想谈论它
[20:36]	Especially on a Friday. Come on, let’s eat.	特别是在星期五 来吧 我们吃饭
[20:38]	I’m meeting my brother there.	我要去那里见我弟弟
[20:40]	And how would these activities have come to the attention of the FBI?	这些活动怎么会引起联邦调查局的注意？
[20:44]	Well, if I remember correctly,	如果我没记错的话
[20:46]	the FBI was taking license plates outside suspected communist gatherings,	联邦调查局在可疑的共产主义集会外拍摄车牌
[20:50]	and his name popped up.	然后他的名字出现了
[21:00]	-Jesus Christ! -Sorry.	-吓我一跳！ -对不起
[21:02]	Frank!	弗兰克！
[21:05]	-Uh, you remember Jackie? -Evening.	-还记得杰姬吗？ -晚上好
[21:14]	Robert! I want you to meet Chevalier.	罗伯特! 我想让你见见舍瓦利耶
[21:17]	Dr. Haakon Chevalier, Dr. Robert Oppenheimer.	哈康·舍瓦利耶博士 罗伯特·奥本海默博士
[21:20]	-Pleasure.	-幸会 -幸会 -Pleasure.
[21:21]	This is my little brother, Frank.	这是我弟弟 弗兰克
[21:23]	-And this is… -Still Jackie.	-这位是…… -斯蒂尔·杰姬
[21:25]	Hello, Still Jackie.	你好 斯蒂尔·杰姬
[21:26]	-Chevalier, you’re in languages? -And your reputation precedes you.	-舍瓦利耶 你是语言学家？ -而你 久仰大名
[21:30]	What have you heard?	你听说了什么？
[21:31]	That you’re teaching a radical new approach to physics	你在教授一种全新的物理学
[21:33]	I have no chance of understanding, but I haven’t heard you’re a party member.	我无法理解 听说你还不是党员
[21:37]	-Uh, I’m not. -Oh, not yet.	-我没有入党 -是 还没有入党
[21:38]	Frank and I are thinking of joining.	弗兰克和我想入党
[21:40]	-Just the other day I was saying… -I support a range of causes.	-前几天我还在说…… -我支持许多事业
[21:42]	Spanish Civil War?	西班牙内战？
[21:44]	A democratic republic being overthrown by fascist thugs.	一个被法西斯暴徒推翻的民主共和国
[21:47]	-Who wouldn’t? -Our government.	-谁不支持呢？ -我们的政府
[21:48]	They think that socialism is a bigger threat than fascism.	他们认为社会主义比法西斯主义更具威胁性
[21:51]	Not for long. Look at what the Nazis are doing to the Jews.	不会太久的 看看纳粹是怎么对待犹太人的
[21:53]	I send funds to colleagues in Germany to emigrate.	我有捐钱给德国的同行 资助他们移民
[21:56]	I have to do something.	我得做点什么
[21:59]	My own work is so… abstract.	我自己的工作太……抽象了
[22:02]	What are you working on?	你在忙什么呢？
[22:03]	What happens to stars when they die?	星星死后会发生什么？
[22:05]	Do stars die?	星星会死吗？
[22:08]	Well, if they do, they’d cool, then collapse.	嗯 这么说 它们会冷却 然后坍塌
[22:11]	In fact, the bigger the star,	事实上 星星越大
[22:14]	the more violent its demise.	它的灭亡就越激烈
[22:16]	Their gravity gets so concentrated, it swallows everything.	它们的引力非常集中 吞噬了一切
[22:20]	Everything, even light.	一切 包括光线
[22:22]	-Can that really happen? -The math says it can.	-真的会这样吗？ -数学表明可以
[22:25]	If we can get published, then perhaps one day an astronomer finds one.	如果我们能出版 也许哪天天文学家能发现一颗
[22:28]	But right now, all I have is theory,	但现在 我只有理论
[22:30]	which can’t impact people’s lives.	不会影响人们的生活
[22:32]	Well, if you’re going to send money to Spain,	如果你要往西班牙捐钱
[22:34]	do it through the Communist Party.	通过共产党做这件事
[22:36]	They can get it to the front lines.	他们可以直接送钱到前线
[22:37]	Mary sent me with these.	玛丽让我送来的
[22:40]	-I’m Jean. -Robert.	-我叫琼 -罗伯特
[22:43]	Haakon Chevalier. That union meeting at Serber’s last month.	哈康·舍瓦利耶 上个月在塞伯尔的工会会议
[22:46]	Right, right, yes.	对 对 是的
[22:48]	Oh, thank you.	哦 谢谢
[22:49]	Robert here says he’s not a communist.	罗伯特说他不是共产党员
[22:51]	Well, then he doesn’t know enough about it.	那是他还不够了解共产党
[22:54]	Oh, I’ve read Das Kapital, all three volumes.	噢 我读过《资本论》全部三卷
[22:56]	Does that count?	这算吗？
[22:57]	It would make you better-read than most party members.	这只能证明你比大多数党员更博览群书
[22:59]	Turgid stuff. There’s some thinking, um…	枯燥乏味 有一些想法 嗯……
[23:02]	“Ownership is theft.”	“所有权就是盗窃”
[23:03]	-Property. -Property?	-财产 -财产？
[23:05]	Property, not ownership.	是财产 不是所有权
[23:07]	I’m sorry, I read it in the original German.	抱歉 我读的是德文原版
[23:12]	It’s not about the book. It’s about the ideas.	这与书无关 关乎每个人的理解
[23:15]	And you sound uncommitted.	你的不一定准确
[23:17]	I’m committed to thinking freely about how to improve our world.	我致力于自由思考如何改善我们的世界
[23:21]	Why limit yourself to one dogma?	为什么要把自己限制在一个教条之内？
[23:23]	You’re a physicist. Do you pick and choose rules?	你是个物理学家 你会选择规矩吗？
[23:26]	Or do you use the discipline to channel your energies into progress?	或者你用纪律来引导你的能量取得进步？
[23:30]	I like a little wiggle room.	我喜欢多一点自由
[23:33]	Do you always toe the party line?	你总是遵守党的路线吗？
[23:37]	I like my wiggle room, too.	我也喜欢多一点自由
[23:50]	What?	怎么了？
[23:52]	Wait, wait, wait.	等等 等等
[23:57]	Unexpected.	出乎意料
[23:58]	What?	什么？
[23:59]	For a physicist.	对一个物理学家来说
[24:01]	You only have a shelf full of Freud?	你书架上只有弗洛伊德的书吗？
[24:03]	-Well, actually, my background’s more… -Jungian?	-事实上 我的学术背景是…… -荣格？
[24:09]	You know analysis?	你懂精神分析学？
[24:10]	When I was in post-grad at Cambridge, I had a little trouble.	当我在剑桥读研究生时 遇到一点小麻烦
[24:15]	-I’ll bite. -I tried to poison my tutor.	-有意思 -我想毒死我的导师
[24:17]	-Did you hate him? -I liked him very much.	-你恨他吗？ -我很喜欢他
[24:20]	You just needed to get laid.	你只是需要滚床单
[24:22]	It took my analysts two years,	我的精神分析师花了两年时间
[24:23]	and I don’t think they ever put it that succinctly.	我觉得他们从来没有像你说得那么简洁
[24:26]	You have everyone convinced you’re more complicated than you actually are.	你让所有人都相信你比实际上更复杂
[24:29]	We’re all simple souls, I guess.	我想我们的灵魂都是单纯的
[24:32]	I’m not.	我不是
[24:36]	What’s this?	这是什么？
[24:37]	Sanskrit.	梵文
[24:38]	You can read this?	你能看懂这个？
[24:40]	I’m learning.	正在学
[24:46]	Read this.	念给我听
[24:49]	Well, in this part,	嗯 这一段说的是
[24:51]	-Vishnu reveals his multi-armed self… -No.	-毗湿奴展示了他千臂的自我…… -不
[24:55]	Read the words.	读文字
[25:00]	“And now I am become Death…	“现在我成了死神……
[25:09]	“destroyer of worlds.”	“世界的毁灭者”
[25:41]	This’ll do.	就这吧
[25:49]	It’ll break before dawn.	天亮前会好的
[25:50]	Air cools overnight.	冷空气持续一整夜
[25:52]	Just before dawn, it breaks.	当黎明到来 就会转晴
[26:04]	Well, so, I’m getting married.	听我说 我要结婚了
[26:08]	-Frank! congratulations! -Thank you, thank you.	法兰克! 恭喜你！ 谢谢 谢谢
[26:11]	-To Jackie? -Yeah, to Jackie.	-和杰姬？ -对 杰姬
[26:14]	-The waitress? -Oppie, you’re right. It’s letting up.	-那个服务员？ -奥比 你说得对 暖和些了
[26:17]	I’m gonna go see if there’s any stars.	我去看看有没有星星
[26:19]	All your talk about the common man, but Jackie’s not good enough for you, hmm?	你口口声声普通人 却嫌杰姬不好 对吧？
[26:24]	We joined the party, and you can’t hide your disappointment.	我们加入共产党 你无法掩饰你的失望
[26:26]	Why? Is that because that’s supposed to be your thing?	为什么? 是因为我们抢在你前头吗？
[26:29]	I haven’t joined the party, Frank.	我没加入共产党 弗兰克
[26:30]	And I don’t think she should have convinced you to either.	我觉得她也不应该说服你
[26:33]	-Half of the faculty is communist. -Not that half.	-一半的教员是共产主义者 -我们不是那一半
[26:37]	I’m your brother, Frank, and I want you to be cautious.	我是你哥哥 弗兰克 我希望你小心点
[26:40]	And I want to wring your neck.	我想拧断你的脖子
[26:43]	I won’t live my life afraid to make a mistake.	我不会生活在害怕犯错的恐惧中
[26:49]	You’re happy… I’m happy.	你开心 我就开心
[26:52]	So then I’m happy you’re happy that I’m happy.	所以我开心着你开心我的开心
[27:00]	I feel like I can see one of those dark stars that you’re working on.	我觉得我能看到你正在研究的那些暗星
[27:03]	You can’t.	看不到
[27:04]	That’s the whole point. Their gravity swallows light.	这就是重点 它们的引力会吞噬光线
[27:09]	It’s like a kind of hole in space.	仿佛太空中的一个洞
[27:12]	Is Frank okay?	弗兰克还好吗？
[27:13]	Yes. He just has a shitty brother.	是的 他只是有个糟糕的哥哥
[27:17]	It is special here.	这里很特别
[27:21]	When I was a kid…	我小时候
[27:24]	I thought if I could find a way…	我想如果我能找到一种办法
[27:27]	to combine physics and New Mexico,	把物理学和新墨西哥州结合起来
[27:31]	my life would be perfect.	我的生活将会很完美
[27:35]	-Little remote for that. -Yes.	-遥不可及 -是啊
[27:37]	Let’s get some sleep.	我们去睡觉吧
[27:40]	That mesa we saw today, one of my favorite places in the world.	我们今天看到的那个平顶山 是我最喜欢的地方之一
[27:44]	-Tomorrow we’ll climb it. -What’s it called?	-明天我们爬上去 -叫什么？
[27:48]	Los Alamos.	洛斯阿拉莫斯
[27:54]	I didn’t expect to see you today.	我今天没准备好见你
[27:57]	Do I have to make an appointment?	见你还需要预约么？
[28:03]	Alvarez?	阿尔瓦雷茨？
[28:10]	Oppie! Oppie!	奥比! 奥比！
[28:12]	What? What is it?	怎么了？出什么事了
[28:14]	They’ve done it.	他们做到了
[28:16]	They’ve done it. Hahn and Strassmann in Germany.	他们做到了 哈恩和斯特拉斯曼 在德国
[28:17]	They split the uranium nucleus.	他们分裂了铀原子核
[28:21]	How?	怎么做？
[28:23]	Bombard it with neutrons.	用中子轰击它
[28:25]	It’s a nuclear fission.	这是核裂变
[28:27]	They did it. They split the atom.	他们做到了 他们分裂了原子
[28:28]	That’s not possible.	这不可能
[28:35]	I’m gonna try to reproduce it.	我试试重现它
[28:44]	See? Can’t be done.	看到没 做不到
[28:47]	Very elegant.	很优雅
[28:49]	Quite clear.	很清晰
[28:50]	There’s just one problem.	只有一个问题
[28:52]	Where?	哪儿？
[28:53]	Next door.	隔壁
[28:55]	Alvarez did it.	阿尔瓦雷茨做到了
[28:57]	And look.	看
[28:59]	These fission pulses, they’re massive.	这些裂变脉冲 非常巨大
[29:02]	I’ve seen 30 of these in the past ten minutes.	过去十分钟我已经看30个了
[29:06]	Theory will take you only so far.	理论总是灰色的
[29:10]	During the process…	在这个过程中……
[29:13]	extra neutrons boil off, which could be used	额外的中子蒸发掉 可以用来
[29:15]	to split other uranium atoms.	分裂其他铀原子
[29:17]	Chain reaction.	产生连锁反应
[29:19]	You’re thinking what I’m thinking.	你和我想的一样
[29:20]	You, me, and every other physicist around the world who’s seen the news.	你 我 还有世界上所有看到新闻的物理学家
[29:25]	I just… what, what are we all thinking?	我刚刚……等等 我们是不是想到一块了？
[29:28]	A bomb, Alvarez.	原子弹 阿尔瓦雷茨
[29:32]	A bomb.	原子弹
[29:34]	I told you, Robert, no more fucking flowers.	我说了多少次 罗伯特 不准再送花
[29:39]	-I don’t understand what you want from me. -I don’t want anything from you!	-可我不知道你想要什么 -我不要你的任何东西！
[29:43]	-Well, you say that, and then you call. -Well, don’t answer.	-说是这么说 是你叫我来的 -别来啊
[29:48]	I’ll always answer.	你叫了 我就永远会来
[29:55]	Fine.	好吧
[29:56]	Just no more flowers.	就是别再送花了
[29:59]	You’re not coming?	你不去聚会了么？
[30:03]	You have to know when you’re beaten, Robert.	人生不如意事十之八九 罗伯特
[30:07]	It’s not that simple, Haak.	没那么简单 哈克
[30:09]	Chevalier, good to see you. Barbara, good to see you.	舍瓦利耶 很高兴见到你 芭芭拉 很高兴见到你
[30:12]	And the illustrious Dr. Oppenheimer.	还有杰出的奥本海默博士
[30:15]	-I’m Eltenton. -Oh, pleasure.	-我是埃尔坦登 -哦 幸会
[30:17]	Please, please.	幸会 幸会
[30:18]	Why don’t you say a word about organized labor on campuses?	你为什么不谈谈校园劳工组织呢？
[30:21]	Yes? Coming through, coming through!	对吧? 借过 借过！
[30:23]	I work at Shell.	我在壳牌公司工作
[30:24]	We’ve signed up chemists, we’ve signed up engineers.	我们雇了化学家 我们雇了工程师
[30:27]	So why not sciences and academia?	那么为什么科学界和学术界没有呢？
[30:29]	Oppie! Oppie! Oppie! Oppie!	奥比! 奥比! 奥比! 奥比！
[30:43]	Teachers are unionized.	教师都组织工会了
[30:45]	Why not professors?	教授为什么还没有？
[30:47]	Don’t you have somewhere to be?	你不是还有事吗？
[30:48]	Lawrence, academics have rights too.	劳伦斯 学者也有权利
[30:50]	Look, it’s not that. I’ve got a group coming.	听着 不是那样的 我有一群人要来
[30:53]	-Oh. I’ll sit in. -Not this one.	-哦 我会参加的 -这个不行
[31:02]	Richard, Dr. Bush.	理查德 布什博士
[31:04]	What brings you two up north?	什么风把你们吹到北方来了？
[31:15]	Richard, you tell Ruth I’ll be down in Pasadena Thursday.	理查德 你告诉鲁丝我周四会去帕萨迪纳
[31:28]	Paper on black holes, it’s in!	黑洞论文 新鲜出炉！
[31:32]	Where’s Hartland?	哈特兰在哪？
[31:33]	Get Hartland. Get Hartland.	快找哈特兰 快找哈特兰
[31:36]	September 1st, 1939? The world’s gonna remember this day.	1939年9月1日? 全世界会永远记住这一天
[31:41]	Oh, Hartland, our paper, it’s in print.	噢 哈特兰 我们的论文出版了
[31:43]	You’ve been upstaged.	我们被人抢了头条
[31:48]	During the Battle of Britain, I found myself	在不列颠之战中 我发现自己
[31:51]	increasingly out of sympathy with the…	越来越不同情……
[31:54]	policy of neutrality that communists advocated.	共产党主张的中立政策
[31:57]	But after Hitler invaded Russia and we became allies,	但在希特勒入侵俄国 我们成为盟友之后
[32:00]	these communist sympathies, do they return?	你的共产主义者的同情心 又回来了吗？
[32:03]	No.	没有
[32:05]	I need to make clear that my changing views on Russia	我需要澄清的是 我改变对俄国的看法
[32:09]	did not mean a sharp break from those who held different views.	并不意味着与那些持不同观点的人彻底决裂
[32:12]	For a year or two during a previous marriage,	在上一段婚姻中的一两年里
[32:15]	my wife Kitty had been a Communist Party member.	我的妻子凯蒂曾是共产党员
[32:23]	This is where I keep the good stuff.	这是我放好东西的地方
[32:24]	Well, I thought this was the Tolmans’ house.	我以为这是托尔曼的家
[32:26]	I live with them while I’m at Caltech.	我在加州理工的时候和他们住在一起
[32:28]	Do you two need anything?	你们两个需要什么吗？
[32:29]	We’re good, Ruthie.	我们没事 鲁丝
[32:32]	So, you’re a biologist.	你是个生物学家
[32:35]	Well, somehow I have graduated to housewife.	你不说我都忘了 我现在是家庭主妇
[32:39]	Can you explain quantum mechanics to me?	你能给我解释一下量子力学吗？
[32:41]	-Seems baffling. -Yes, it is.	-似乎很深奥 -是的 没错
[32:45]	Well, this glass,	嗯 这个杯子
[32:48]	this drink… this countertop…	这杯酒……这个台面……
[32:52]	Our bodies.	我们的身体
[32:55]	All of it.	所有这些
[32:57]	It’s mostly empty space.	大部分都是空的
[32:59]	Groupings of tiny energy waves bound together.	成群的微小能量波聚集在一起
[33:03]	By what?	通过什么？
[33:04]	Forces of attraction strong enough to convince us	强大的吸引力足以让我们相信
[33:08]	that matter is solid.	物质是固体
[33:10]	Stop my body passing through yours.	阻止我的身体穿过你的身体
[33:25]	You’re married to Dr. Harrison.	你嫁给了哈里森博士
[33:27]	Not very.	还是说你吧
[33:30]	There is someone that I feel…	有一个人 我感觉……
[33:34]	Does she feel that way?	她也有那种感觉吗？
[33:35]	Sometimes.	有时候吧
[33:38]	Not enough.	还不够
[33:40]	You know, I’m going to New Mexico.	知道吗 我要去新墨西哥州
[33:43]	To my ranch, with friends.	去我的牧场 和朋友们一起
[33:45]	You should come.	你应该来
[33:47]	I meant, with your husband.	我是说 和你丈夫
[33:49]	Yes, you did.	是的 没错
[33:50]	Because you know it won’t make a bit of difference.	你知道的 他来不来没什么区别
[33:57]	Why did you marry him?	你为什么嫁给他？
[33:59]	I was lost, and… he was kind.	我迷失了 而且 他对我很好
[34:05]	Lost?	迷失？
[34:06]	Well, my previous husband had died, and…	我的前夫去世时
[34:09]	at 28, I wasn’t really ready to be a widow.	我才28岁 还没准备好做寡妇
[34:12]	-Who was your first husband? -Nobody.	-你的第一任丈夫是谁？ -不值一提
[34:14]	My second husband was Joe Dallet.	我的第二任丈夫是乔·达莱特
[34:16]	He was from money, like me,	他和我一样出身富贵
[34:18]	but he was a union organizer in Youngstown, Ohio.	但他是俄亥俄州扬斯敦的工会组织者
[34:22]	I fell hard.	我一下跌入谷底
[34:24]	-How hard? -Hard enough to spend the next four years	-有多谷底？ -足以让你在接下来的四年里
[34:26]	living off beans and pancakes,	靠豆子和煎饼为生
[34:28]	handing out the Daily Worker at factory gates.	在工厂门口发放《工人日报》
[34:31]	By ’36, I just told Joe I couldn’t take it anymore.	到了1936年 我告诉乔我再也受不了了
[34:34]	Quit the party.	退出共产党
[34:35]	A year later, I wanted him back.	一年后 我想让他回来
[34:36]	Him, not the Daily Worker. And…	是他 不是那个社会活动家 然后
[34:39]	he said: “Swell, I’ll meet you on my way to Spain.”	他说 好的 我们在去西班牙的路上见
[34:41]	Went to fight for the Loyalists?	去为共和派而战？
[34:42]	And then he went to the brigades and I waited.	于是他参加了国际旅 我等着
[34:44]	And…	后来……
[34:47]	Joe got himself killed first time he popped his head out of the trench.	乔第一次从战壕里探出头就被杀了
[34:52]	Ideology got Joe killed, for nothing.	意识形态害死了乔 毫无意义
[34:54]	The Spanish Republic isn’t nothing.	西班牙共和国不是一无是处
[34:56]	My husband offered both our futures to stop one fascist bullet	我丈夫为了阻止一颗法西斯子弹牺牲了我们两个人的未来
[34:59]	from embedding itself in a mud bank.	把自己埋在泥滩里
[35:02]	That’s the definition of nothing.	这就是虚无的定义
[35:04]	-Seems a little reductive. -Pragmatic.	-假乎有点简化了 -实话实说
[35:08]	Now here I am.	现在我在这里
[35:12]	Wherever the hell this is.	不管这是哪里
[35:21]	I didn’t want you to hear it from anyone else.	我不希望你从别人那里听到这个消息
[35:26]	At least you didn’t bring me flowers.	至少你这次没再送花
[35:36]	We both know I’m not what you want, Jean.	我们都知道我不是你想要的人 琼
[35:39]	Yeah, but it’s a door closing.	但我已经没法再爱上别人了
[35:42]	No.	不
[35:45]	Not as far as I’m concerned, no.	对我来说 不
[35:49]	You knocked her up. Fast work.	她都怀孕了 真快啊
[35:51]	Can’t keep a good man down.	有志者事竟成嘛
[35:54]	I meant her.	我是说她
[35:56]	She knew what she wanted.	她知道自己想要什么
[35:58]	What about the husband?	她丈夫呢？
[36:00]	We talked.	我们谈过了
[36:01]	They’re getting a divorce,	他们会离婚
[36:02]	so we can get married before she starts showing.	这样我们就能赶在她大肚前结婚
[36:06]	How civilized.	多绅士啊
[36:10]	You idiot.	你是个傻瓜
[36:11]	This is your community.	这是你的地盘
[36:14]	You think the rules don’t apply to the golden boy?	你觉得这些规矩不适用于天才吗？
[36:17]	Brilliance makes up for a lot.	才华能弥补很多缺点
[36:19]	Don’t alienate the only people in the world that understand what you do.	别远离那些理解你的人
[36:24]	One day you might need them.	有一天你会需要他们的
[36:26]	F-A-E-C-T！ F-A-E-C-T!
[36:29]	Federation of Architects, Engineers, Chemists and Technicians.	建筑师、工程师、化学家和技术人员联合会
[36:38]		辐射实验室工会
[36:40]	Lomanitz, what do you get paid a month?	洛马尼茨 你一个月的薪水是多少？
[36:42]	That’s not the point, Lawrence.	这不是重点 劳伦斯
[36:43]	What do any of you have in common with farm laborers and dock workers?	你们和农场工人和码头工人有什么共同点？
[36:48]	Plenty.	很多
[36:51]	Everybody out. Now!	所有人都出去 马上！
[36:58]	Not you.	你留下
[37:05]	What are you doing?	你在干什么？
[37:07]	It’s a trade union.	这是工会
[37:08]	-Filled with communists. -So? I haven’t joined the party.	-到处都是共产党员 -那又怎样? 我还没加入呢
[37:11]	They won’t let me bring you onto the project because of this shit.	因为这破事 他们不让我带你参与这个项目
[37:15]	They won’t even let me tell you what the project is.	他们甚至不让我告诉你项目是什么
[37:17]	Oh, I know what the project is.	我知道是什么项目
[37:19]	Oh, really?	真的吗？
[37:20]	We’ve all heard about Einstein and Szilard’s letter to Roosevelt	我们都听说过爱因斯坦和西拉德写给罗斯福的信
[37:23]	warning him the Germans could make a bomb,	警告他德国人可能会制造原子弹
[37:25]	and I know what it means for the Nazis to have a bomb.	我知道纳粹拥有原子弹意味着什么
[37:28]	And I don’t?	我不知道吗？
[37:29]	It’s not your people they’re herding into camps.	他们不是把你的人赶进集中营
[37:32]	It’s mine.	是我的
[37:34]	You think that I tell them about your politics?	你以为我会告诉他们你的政治立场吗？
[37:39]	The next time you’re coming home from a meeting,	下次你开完会回家
[37:41]	why don’t you take a look in the rearview mirror,	为什么不看看后视镜
[37:43]	listen to the sounds on your phone line, and stop being so goddamn naive?	听听电话线上的声音 别他妈这么天真了？
[37:49]	Why would they care what I do?	他们为什么要在乎我做什么？
[37:51]	Because you’re not just self-important, you’re actually important.	因为你不只是自以为重要 你实际上很重要
[37:58]	Okay.	好吧
[38:01]	I get it.	我明白了
[38:02]	If you could just be a little more…	如果你能再多一点……
[38:03]	Pragmatic. I’ll talk to Lomanitz, I’ll talk to the others.	务实 我会和洛马尼茨谈谈 和其他人谈谈
[38:06]	You don’t have to worry, it’s done.	你不用担心 已经结束了
[38:09]	Lawrence.	劳伦斯
[38:15]	Then welcome to the war.	那么欢迎参战
[38:17]	I filled out my first security questionnaire and was informed	我填写了我的第一份安全问卷 并被告知
[38:20]	that my involvement with left-wing groups would	我和左翼组织的关系
[38:23]	not prove a bar to my working on the atomic program.	不再成为我在原子弹项目上的工作障碍
[38:26]	Why were his communist associations	为什么他和共产党的关系
[38:29]	not seen as a security risk during the war?	不被视为战争期间的安全隐患？
[38:32]	Senator, I can’t possibly answer	参议员 我无法回答
[38:34]	for security clearance granted years before I ever met the man.	在我认识他之前就已经获得安全许可了
[38:37]	Fine. What about after?	好吧 那之后呢？
[38:39]	After the war, Dr. Oppenheimer was	战后 奥本海默博士
[38:42]	the most respected scientific voice in the world.	世界上最受尊敬的科学之声
[38:45]	That’s why I asked him to run the Institute.	这就是为什么我让他管理研究所
[38:47]	That’s why he advised the Atomic Energy Commission.	这就是他成为原子能委员会顾问的原因
[38:50]	Simple as that.	就这么简单
[38:52]	What are they accusing me of?	他们指控我什么？
[38:54]	I think they just want to know what happened between 1947 and 1954	我想他们只是想知道1947年到1954年间发生了什么
[38:58]	to change your mind on Oppenheimer’s security clearance.	改变你对奥本海默安全许可的看法
[39:00]	I didn’t.	我没有
[39:01]	I was chair of the AEC, but it wasn’t me	我是原子能委员会主席 但不是我
[39:05]	that brought the charges against Robert. -Who did?	指控罗伯特 谁干的？
[39:08]	Some former staff member of the Joint Congressional Committee.	国会联合委员会的一位前工作人员
[39:10]	He was a rabid anti-communist named Borden.	他是个狂热的反共产主义者 名叫博登
[39:13]	He wrote to the FBI demanding they take action.	他写信给联邦调查局 要求他们采取行动
[39:16]	The FBI? Why not go to the AEC direct?	联邦调查局? 为什么不直接找原子能委员会？
[39:18]	You’d get caught holding the knife yourself.	借刀杀人 方为上策
[39:21]	What did Borden have against Oppenheimer?	博登和奥本海默有什么过节？
[39:23]	This is the McCarthy era.	这是麦卡锡时代
[39:25]	People hounded out of jobs for any hint of red, and…	人们为了一点点染红而被炒鱿鱼 然后
[39:30]	Reading Oppenheimer’s security file, his communist brother,	我阅读了奥本海默的安全档案 他的弟弟
[39:33]	sister-in-law, fiancée, best friend, wife.	弟媳 情妇 最好的朋友 妻子 都是共产党
[39:36]	That’s before we even get to the Chevalier incident.	那是在我们讨论舍瓦利耶事件之前
[39:39]	But how would Borden have access to Oppenheimer’s security file?	但博登是怎么拿到奥本海默的安全档案的？
[39:42]	Because somebody gave it to him.	别人给他的
[39:45]	Somebody who wanted Robert silenced.	有人想教罗伯特闭嘴
[39:48]	Who? -Who knows?	-谁？ -天知道？
[39:50]	Robert didn’t take care not to upset the power brokers in Washington.	罗伯特没有小心翼翼地避免惹恼华盛顿的权力掮客
[39:54]	His opinions on the atom became definitive,	他成了原子弹方面的绝对权威
[39:57]	and he wasn’t always patient with us mere mortals.	他对我们这些凡人并不总是有耐心
[40:03]	I came in for plenty of harsh treatment.	我受到了很多粗暴的对待
[40:06]	There was an AEC vote	原子能委员会进行了投票
[40:09]	on the export of isotopes to Norway,	关于向挪威出口同位素
[40:12]	and they drafted in Robert to make me look like a fool.	他们把罗伯特请进来就是为了让我看起来像个傻瓜
[40:14]	But Dr. Oppenheimer, we’ve already heard from Admiral Strauss	但是奥本海默博士 我们已经收到了施特劳斯将军的来信
[40:18]	that these isotopes could be useful to our enemies	这些同位素可能对我们的敌人有用
[40:21]	in the production of atomic weapons.	在原子武器制造中
[40:22]	Congressman, you could use a shovel in making atomic weapons.	议员先生 你可以用铲子来制造核武器
[40:26]	In fact, you do.	真的 你可以
[40:27]	You could use a bottle of beer in making atomic weapons.	你可以用一瓶啤酒来制造核武器
[40:30]	In fact, you do. I’d say isotopes are	真的 你可以 我觉得同位素
[40:32]	less useful than electronic components,	还不如电子元件有用
[40:35]	but more useful than a sandwich.	但比三明治要强
[40:40]	Genius is no guarantee of wisdom.	天才不能保证智慧
[40:43]	How could this man who saw so much be so blind?	这个看到这么多的人怎么会如此盲目？
[40:55]	Kitty?	凯蒂？
[41:01]	Kitty?	凯蒂？
[41:04]	Kitty.	凯蒂
[41:05]	The project.	这个项目
[41:07]	I’m in.	我加入了
[41:09]	-I’m in! -Let’s celebrate.	-我加入了！ -让我们庆祝
[41:18]	Shouldn’t you go to him?	你不该去照顾他吗？
[41:24]	I have been going to him all fucking day.	我他妈的一整天都在照顾他
[41:53]	I don’t know how to say this.	我不知道该怎么说
[41:56]	I’m a shamed to ask.	我不好意思开口
[41:58]	Anything.	什么都行
[42:00]	-Take Peter. -Sure.	-照顾彼得 -可以
[42:02]	No, for a while, Haak.	不 只是暂时的 哈克
[42:04]	A while.	一段时间
[42:08]	-Does Kitty know you’re here? -Yes, of course she knows.	-凯蒂知道你在这里吗？ -是的 她当然知道
[42:12]	Of course she knows.	她当然知道
[42:14]	We’re awful people. Selfish, awful people.	我们是可怕的人 自私的可怕的人
[42:19]	Forget I asked.	当我没说
[42:20]	Selfish, awful people,	自私 可怕的人
[42:22]	they don’t know they’re selfish and awful.	他们不知道自己很自私 很可怕
[42:25]	Sit, sit, sit.	坐 坐 坐
[42:28]	Robert, you see beyond the world we live in.	罗伯特 你能看到我们生活之外的世界
[42:34]	There is a price to be paid for that.	这是要付出代价的
[42:36]	Of course we’ll help you.	我们当然会帮助你
[42:49]	Everything’s changing, Robert.	一切都变了 罗伯特
[42:51]	Having a child was always going to change…	有了孩子总是会改变
[42:53]	No, the world is pivoting in some new direction.	不 世界正在急速转向
[42:58]	Reforming.	变革
[43:01]	This is your moment.	属于你的时刻到来了
[43:04]	-We’re putting together a group to study… -We shouldn’t be doing anything.	-我们正在组织一个研究小组 -我们什么都做不了
[43:08]	You should.	你可以
[43:10]	Lawrence won’t get this done.	劳伦斯做不了
[43:12]	Or Tolman or Rabi. You will.	托尔曼或者拉比也不行 但你可以
[43:23]	Who are the uniforms?	这些穿军装的是什么人？
[43:26]	I thought you might know.	我还以为你知道
[43:29]	Dr. Oppenheimer.	奥本海默博士
[43:32]	I’m Colonel Groves. This is Lieutenant Colonel Nichols.	我是格罗夫斯上校 这位是尼科尔斯中校
[43:35]	Have that dry cleaned.	拿去干洗
[43:42]	Well, if that’s how you treat a lieutenant colonel,	如果你就是这样对待一位中校的话
[43:45]	I’d hate to see how you treat a… humble physicist.	我不敢想象你如何对待一个……普通的物理学家
[43:48]	If I ever meet one, I’ll let you know.	我遇到的物理学家都不普通
[43:51]	-Ouch. -Theaters of combat all over the world,	-啊哈 -全世界都在打仗
[43:54]	but I have to stay in Washington.	可我不得不呆在华盛顿
[43:56]	-Why? -I built the Pentagon.	-为什么？ -我建造了五角大楼
[43:58]	The brass likes it so much,	上头非常喜欢
[43:59]	they made me take over the Manhattan Engineer District.	所以让我接管了曼哈顿工程区
[44:03]	-Which is? -Don’t be a smartass.	-那是什么？ -别耍聪明
[44:06]	You know damn well what it is.	你很清楚那是什么
[44:08]	You and half of every physics department across the country.	你和全国一半的物理系都知道
[44:10]	That’s problem number one.	那就是首要问题
[44:12]	I thought problem number one would be securing enough uranium ore.	我以为首要问题是确保足够的铀矿石
[44:15]	-1,200 tons, bought the day I took charge. -Processing?	-1200吨 在我接管的第一天购买的 -加工？
[44:19]	Just broke ground at Oak Ridge, Tennessee.	我刚刚在田纳西州橡树岭破土动工
[44:22]	Now I’m looking for a project director.	现在我正在寻找一个项目主管
[44:25]	And my name came up?	然后你想到了我？
[44:27]	Nope.	不是的
[44:28]	Even though you brought quantum physics to America, which made me curious.	尽管你把量子物理带到了美国 这引起了我对你的好奇心
[44:33]	What have you found out?	你发现了什么？
[44:35]	You’re a dilettante, a womanizer, a suspected communist.	你是个半吊子 花花公子 被怀疑是共产主义者
[44:39]	-I’m a New Deal Democrat. -I said “suspected”.	-我是新政民主党人 -我说的是“被怀疑”
[44:42]	Unstable, theatrical, egotistical, neurotic.	不稳定 戏剧化 自我中心 神经质
[44:46]	Nothing good, no?	没有好的吗？
[44:47]	Not even “he’s brilliant, but…”	连“他很聪明，但……”都没有
[44:49]	Well, brilliance is taken for granted in your circle, so no.	在你的圈子里 聪明是必须的 所以 没有
[44:52]	No, the only person who had anything good to say was Richard Tolman.	只有一个人说了好话——理查德·托尔曼
[44:56]	Tolman thinks you have integrity,	他认为你很正直
[44:58]	but he also strikes me as a guy who knows more about science than people.	但托尔曼给我的感觉是他更了解科学，而不是人
[45:03]	Yet here you are.	可你还是来了
[45:05]	You don’t take much on trust.	你不太相信别人
[45:07]	I don’t take anything on trust.	我不相信任何人
[45:12]	Why don’t you have a Nobel Prize?	为什么你没有拿诺贝尔奖？
[45:14]	-Why aren’t you a general? -They’re making me one for this.	-为什么你不是将军？ -也许完成项目后 会晋升我为将军
[45:16]	Perhaps I’ll have the same luck.	也许我会有同样的好运
[45:18]	The Nobel Prize for making a bomb?	因为制造炸弹获得诺贝尔奖？
[45:19]	Alfred Nobel invented dynamite.	阿尔弗雷德·诺贝尔发明了炸药
[45:24]	So how would you proceed?	那你打算怎么造？
[45:27]	You’re talking about turning theory into a practical weapon system	你说的是把理论变成实用的武器系统
[45:32]	faster than the Nazis. -Who have a 12-month head start.	赶在纳粹前头 -他们领先我们12个月
[45:35]	-18 -How could you possibly know that?	-你怎么知道的？ -18.
[45:38]	Our fast neutron research took six months.	我们的快中子研究花了六个月
[45:40]	The man they’ve undoubtedly put in charge will have made that leap instantly.	毫无疑问 他们任命的负责人能不费吹灰之力搞定
[45:43]	-Who do you think they put in charge? -Werner Heisenberg.	-你以为他们让谁负责？ -维尔纳·海森堡
[45:45]	He has the most intuitive understanding of atomic structure I have ever seen.	他对原子结构有着我所见过的最直观的理解
[45:49]	-You know his work? -I know him,	-你了解他的工作？ -我了解他
[45:51]	just like I know Walther Bothe, von Weizsäcker, Diebner.	就像我了解沃尔特·波特 冯·魏茨萨克 迪布纳一样
[45:54]	In a straight race, the Germans win.	在直道比赛中 德国人赢了
[45:56]	-We’ve got one hope. -Which is?	-我们只有一个希望 -是什么？
[45:59]	Antisemitism.	反犹主义
[46:02]	What?	什么？
[46:03]	Hitler called quantum physics “Jewish science”.	希特勒称量子物理学为“犹太科学”
[46:06]	Said it right to Einstein’s face.	当着爱因斯坦的面说的
[46:07]	Our one hope is that Hitler is so blinded by hate	我们唯一的希望是希特勒被仇恨蒙蔽了双眼
[46:11]	that he’s denied Heisenberg proper resources,	没有为海森堡提供适当的资源
[46:13]	because it’ll take vast resources.	因为这将需要大量的资源
[46:15]	Our nation’s best scientists working together. Right now, they’re scattered.	我们国家最优秀的科学家 如果能团结合作——现在他们还分散在各处
[46:18]	Which gives us compartmentalization.	我们称之为分隔化管理
[46:20]	All minds have to see the whole task to contribute efficiently.	所有人必须共享信息才能有效地做出贡献
[46:23]	Poor security may cost us the race.	过度的安全性可能会让我们输掉这场竞赛
[46:25]	Inefficiency will.	低效率也会
[46:27]	The Germans know more than us anyway.	不管怎样 德国人比我们知道得更多
[46:29]	The Russians don’t.	俄国人不知道
[46:32]	Remind me, who are we at war with?	提醒一下 我们正在与谁交战？
[46:35]	Somebody with your past doesn’t want to be seen downplaying	有你这样过去的人不该被人看到轻视
[46:38]	the importance of security from our communist allies.	来自我们共产主义盟友的安全的重要性
[46:42]	Point taken, but… no.	你说得对 但不是这个问题
[46:45]	You don’t get to say no to me.	你不可以对我说“不”
[46:47]	It’s my job to say no to you when you’re wrong.	我的工作就是在你错误时对你说“不”
[46:50]	So you have the job now?	所以你现在得到这份工作了？
[46:51]	Uh, I’m considering it.	噢 我还在考虑
[46:56]	I’m starting to see where you got your reputation.	我开始明白你是怎么获得你的声誉的了
[46:59]	My favorite response:	我最喜欢的回答是
[47:02]	“Oppenheimer couldn’t run a hamburger stand.”	“奥本海默甚至不能经营一个汉堡摊”
[47:06]	I couldn’t.	我做不到
[47:09]	But I can run the Manhattan Project.	但我可以负责曼哈顿计划
[47:12]	There’s a way to balance these things.	有个办法可以平衡这些东西
[47:15]	Keep the Rad Lab here at Berkeley, under Lawrence.	把放射实验室留在伯克利 由劳伦斯领导
[47:19]	Met Lab in Chicago, under Szilard.	芝加哥的气象实验室 由西拉德领导
[47:21]	Large-scale refining, where did you say, Tennessee?	大型炼油厂 你说哪里来着 田纳西？
[47:23]	-And Hanford.	-还有汉福德 -还有汉福德 -And Hanford.
[47:25]	All America’s industrial-minded scientific innovation,	美国所有的工业力量和科技创新
[47:29]	connected by rail, focused on one goal,	通过铁路连接 集中于一个目标
[47:32]	one point in space and time.	时空中的一点
[47:34]	And it comes together here, a secret laboratory.	它们聚集在这里 一个秘密实验室
[47:36]	In the middle of nowhere, secure, self-sufficient.	位于荒野中心 安全 自给自足
[47:39]	Equipment, housing, the works.	设备 房屋 工程
[47:40]	Keep everyone there until it’s done.	完成之前任何人都不准离开
[47:43]	-We’ll need a school, stores, a church. -Why?	-我们需要学校 商店 教堂 -为什么？
[47:46]	If we don’t let scientists bring their families, we’ll never get the best.	如果不让他们带家属 我们永远请不到最好的科学家
[47:49]	You want security, build a town. Build it fast.	你想要安全 就建一个小镇 越快越好
[47:52]	Where?	在哪儿？
[47:57]	Welcome to Los Alamos.	欢迎来到洛斯阿拉莫斯
[47:59]	There’s a boys’ school we’ll have to commandeer,	我们要征用一所男子学校
[48:01]	and the local Indians come up here for burial rites,	当地的印第安人来这里举行葬礼
[48:03]	but apart from that, nothing.	但除此之外 方圆40英里
[48:05]	40 miles. Any direction.	一无所有
[48:06]	We’ll have to find the perfect spot.	我们得找个好地方
[48:08]	-For? -Success.	-为什么？ -为了成功
[48:16]	Build him a town. Fast.	给他建个小镇 要快
[48:20]	Let’s go recruit some scientists.	我们去招募一些科学家
[48:22]	Why would I leave my family?	我为什么要离开我的家人？
[48:24]	I told you, you can bring your family.	我说过了 你可以带家属
[48:25]	-I’m not a soldier, Oppie. -A soldier?	-我不是士兵 奥比 -士兵？
[48:28]	He’s a general. I’ve got all the soldier I need.	他是个将军 我想要多少士兵都行
[48:31]	What can I tell them?	我怎么跟他们说？
[48:33]	Heisenberg, Diebner, Bothe and Bohr. What do these men have in common?	海森堡 迪布纳 玻尔 这些人有什么共同点？
[48:36]	-Uh, the greatest minds on atomic theory. -Yes, and?	-嗯 原子理论最伟大的头脑 -是的 然后呢？
[48:40]	As much as you like.	随你怎么说
[48:43]	Until you feel my boot on your balls.	有事的话我会用鞋子踹你裤裆
[48:46]	You know isotopes, and you know explosives better than anyone in the world.	你了解同位素 你比世界上任何人都了解炸药
[48:49]	But you can’t tell us what you’re doing.	但你不能告诉我们你在做什么
[48:55]	-I don’t know. -The Nazis have them.	-我不知道 -他们在纳粹手上
[48:57]	Niels Bohr’s in Copenhagen.	尼尔斯·玻尔在哥本哈根
[48:58]	Under Nazi occupation. Did they stop printing newspapers in Princeton?	在纳粹占领下 普林斯顿停止印刷报纸了吗？
[49:01]	Why would we go to the middle of nowhere for who knows how long?	我们为什么要去一个鸟不拉屎的地方 谁知道要去多久？
[49:05]	For a year or two. Or three.	一两年 或者三年吧
[49:08]	General, could you… give us a moment?	将军 能让我们单独谈谈吗？
[49:13]	It’s about unleashing a strong force.	这是为了释放巨大的力量
[49:17]	Before the Nazis do.	抢在纳粹之前
[49:19]	Oh my god.	我的天
[49:20]	-Niels won’t work for the Nazis. -No, never.	-尼尔斯不会为纳粹工作的 -不 从来没有
[49:23]	But while they have him, we don’t.	但只要他们抓住了他 我们就没辙
[49:25]	That’s why I need you.	所以我才需要你
[49:26]	Why would you think I’d do that?	你为什么觉得我会这么做？
[49:28]	Why? Why?	为什么? 为什么？
[49:30]	How about because this is the most important fucking thing	因为这是他妈世界历史上
[49:32]	to ever happen in the history of the world?	最重大的事件 还不够吗？
[49:35]	How about that?	想想吧？
[49:36]	Fuck.	妈的
[49:42]	They’re not gonna let me onto this project.	他们不会让我参与这个项目的
[49:45]	And failing a security check	还没通过安全检查
[49:47]	is not going to be good for a career even after the war.	即使战争结束后 也不利于职业发展
[49:49]	So you’re a fellow traveler. So what?	所以你也是同路人 那又怎样？
[49:52]	This is a national emergency.	全国处于紧急状态
[49:53]	I’ve got some skeletons. They put me in charge.	我有些不可告人的秘密 他们让我负责
[49:56]	They need us.	他们需要我们
[49:58]	Until they don’t.	卸磨杀驴而已
[50:03]	Is there any chance of getting Bohr out of Denmark?	有没有可能把玻尔弄出丹麦？
[50:05]	Yeah, no dice. I checked with the British.	不可能 我问过英国人了
[50:09]	Until we get Allied boots back onto the continent, there’s just no way.	除非我们的大军能打回欧洲大陆 否则没门
[50:14]	Is he that important?	他有那么重要吗？
[50:15]	How many people do you know who proved Einstein wrong?	你认识多少人证明爱因斯坦是错的？
[50:20]	You know, it really would be quicker to take a plane.	你知道吗 坐飞机真的会更快
[50:22]	A plane’s too risky.	飞机太危险了
[50:23]	The country needs us.	我们是国之重器
[50:28]	What happened, guys?	怎么了 伙计们？
[50:29]	They say the building’s too small for this cyclotron.	他们说这栋建筑太小了 无法容纳回旋加速器
[50:34]	Get them together with the architects.	给他们找建筑师来
[50:39]	When’s this place supposed to open?	这地方什么时候开张？
[50:44]	Two months.	两个月
[50:46]	Robert, you’re the great improviser, but this…	罗伯特 你很擅长激励人心 但……
[50:50]	you can’t do in your head.	做事不能光凭热情
[50:53]	Four divisions.	我有四个师
[50:56]	Experimental, theoretical, metallurgical.	实验 理论 冶金
[50:59]	Who’s running theoretical?	谁领导理论？
[51:01]	I am.	我
[51:02]	That’s what I was afraid of. You’re spread too thin.	这就是我所担心的 你摊子铺得太大
[51:06]	So you take theoretical.	那就你来负责理论
[51:10]	I’m not coming here, Robert.	我不会参与的 罗伯特
[51:19]	Why not?	为什么不呢？
[51:27]	You drop a bomb and it falls on the just and the unjust.	你扔下一颗炸弹 同时落在正义和不正义的人身上
[51:32]	I don’t wish the culmination of three centuries of physics	我不希望三个世纪物理学的巅峰成就
[51:35]	to be a weapon of mass destruction.	成为大规模杀伤性武器
[51:46]	Izzy…	伊兹……
[51:48]	I don’t know if we can be trusted with such a weapon.	我不知道我们是否有资格拥有这么强大的武器
[51:54]	But I know the Nazis can’t.	但我知道纳粹不行
[52:01]	We have no choice.	我们别无选择
[52:05]	Then…	所以……
[52:08]	The second thing you have to do	你要做的第二件事
[52:10]	is appoint Hans Bethe to run the theoretical division.	是任命汉斯·贝特管理理论部门
[52:15]	Wait, what was the first?	等等 第一件事是什么？
[52:17]	Take off that ridiculous uniform.	脱下那身可笑的军服
[52:20]	You’re a scientist.	你是个科学家
[52:21]	Groves is insisting we join.	格罗夫斯坚持要我们参军
[52:23]	Tell Groves to go shit in his hat.	让格罗夫滚犊子吧
[52:25]	They need us for who we are.	他们需要真正的我们
[52:27]	So be yourself.	做你自己吧
[52:29]	Only better.	只会更好
[53:10]	This is the only key.	这是唯一的钥匙
[53:11]	And Teller’s already here.	泰勒已经到了
[53:14]	-Shall I just show him in? -No, let’s wait for the others.	-要我带他进来吗？ -不 等其他人到齐
[53:24]	Let’s get started.	我们开始吧
[53:26]	-Hello, Edward. -Yes.	-你好 爱德华 -好
[53:29]	Gentlemen, so, we will work here	先生们 那么 我们就在这里工作
[53:31]	until the T Section at Los Alamos is finished.	直到洛斯阿拉莫斯的T区完工
[53:34]	-Edward, can I…? -This is more important.	-爱德华 我能…… -这个更重要
[53:38]	When I calculated the chain reaction, I found a rather troubling possibility.	当我计算连锁反应时 我发现了一个相当棘手的可能性
[53:43]	No, this can’t be right.	不 这不可能
[53:47]	Show me how you did your calculations.	说说你是怎么计算的
[53:49]	Yes.	行
[53:53]	-Exponential. -No, no, no. No.	-指数级 -不 不 不 不
[54:00]	This is fantasy.	不可思议
[54:02]	Teller’s calculations can’t be right.	泰勒的计算不可能正确
[54:04]	Do them yourself while I go to Princeton.	你们先各干各的 我去趟普林斯顿
[54:07]	-What for? -To talk to Einstein.	-去干吗？ -找爱因斯坦谈谈
[54:09]	Well, there’s not much common ground between the two.	可 这两者之间没什么共同点
[54:11]	That’s why I should get his view.	这就是为什么我应该听听他的意见
[54:18]	-Albert. -Hmm?	-阿尔伯特 -嗯？
[54:19]	Ah, Dr. Oppenheimer.	是你 奥本海默博士
[54:22]	Have you met Dr. Gödel?	你见过哥德尔博士吗？
[54:24]	We walk here most days.	我们大部分时间都在这里散步
[54:26]	Trees have the most inspiring structures.	森林有着最激动人心的结构
[54:30]	Albert, might I have a word?	阿尔伯特 我能和你说句话吗？
[54:32]	Of course. Excuse me, Kurt.	当然 对不起 科特
[54:36]	Some days Kurt refuses to eat.	有时候科特拒绝吃东西
[54:39]	Even in Princeton, he’s convinced that the Nazis can poison his food.	即使在普林斯顿 他也坚信纳粹可以在他的食物里下毒
[54:55]	Whose, whose work is this?	这是谁做的？
[54:58]	Teller’s.	泰勒
[55:00]	What do you take it to mean?	你认为这意味着什么？
[55:03]	Neutrons smash into the nucleus,	中子撞击原子核
[55:05]	releasing neutrons to smash into other nuclei.	释放中子撞击其他原子核
[55:09]	Criticality.	临界质量
[55:10]	Point of no return. Massive explosive force.	超过临界点 巨大的爆炸力
[55:13]	But this time, the chain reaction doesn’t stop.	可一旦 连锁反应没有停止
[55:16]	It would ignite the atmosphere.	整个大气层都会被点燃
[55:20]	When we detonate an atomic device, we might start a chain reaction that…	当我们引爆原子装置 我们可能会引发连锁反应
[55:25]	destroys the world.	毁灭世界
[55:28]	So here we are, hmm?	所以来找我 嗯？
[55:30]	Lost in your quantum world of probabilities,	你迷失在量子的概率世界里了
[55:34]	and needing certainty.	亟需确定性
[55:36]	Can you run the calculations yourself?	你能亲自计算一下吗？
[55:39]	About the only thing you and I have in common	我们唯一的共同点
[55:42]	is a disdain for mathematics.	是对数学的蔑视
[55:44]	Who’s working on this in Berkeley?	谁在伯克利负责这个？
[55:46]	Hans Bethe.	汉斯·贝特
[55:47]	Well, he’ll get to the truth.	他会查出真相的
[55:51]	And if the truth is catastrophic?	如果真相是灾难性的呢？
[55:54]	Then you stop, and you share your findings with the Nazis.	那么你就停下来 和纳粹共享你的发现
[55:59]	So neither side destroys the world.	这样双方都不会毁灭世界了
[56:05]	Robert.	罗伯特
[56:08]	This is yours, not mine.	这是你的 不是我的
[56:24]	Teller’s wrong.	泰勒错了
[56:25]	He’s wrong.	他错了
[56:36]	When you know Teller’s critical assumptions, the real picture emerges.	当你了解泰勒的关键假设后 真相就浮出水面
[56:40]	Bottom line?	最底限呢？
[56:42]	The chances of an out-of-control nuclear reaction are near-zero.	核反应失控的可能性几乎为零
[56:45]	Near-zero.	几乎为零
[56:48]	Oppie, this is good news.	奥比 这是好消息
[56:49]	Mm-hmm.	嗯哼
[56:51]	Can you run them again?	你能再算一遍吗？
[56:53]	Oh, you’ll get the same answer.	噢 算多少遍答案都一样
[56:54]	Until they actually detonate one of these things,	这是你在真正引爆之前
[56:56]	the best assurance you’re going to get is this.	所能得到的最佳保证
[56:59]	Near-zero.	几乎为零
[57:03]	Theory will take you only so far.	理论总是灰色的
[57:06]	-Hello! -Hi.	你好！ 嗨
[57:08]	We missed him.	我们好想他
[57:09]	You want to adopt?	你想领养吗？
[57:10]	She’s kidding.	她开玩笑的
[57:11]	We wanted to see you before we left.	我们想在走之前见见你
[57:14]	For parts unknown.	为了不能说的秘密
[57:17]	You know who I ran into the other day?	你知道前几天我碰见谁了？
[57:20]	Eltenton.	埃尔坦登
[57:22]	That chemist from Shell? The union guy?	那个壳牌公司化学家? 工会的？
[57:25]	Yeah, the FAECT guy.	是啊 FAECT那家伙
[57:29]	He was moaning about how we’re handling the war.	他在抱怨我们投入战争的方法
[57:32]	How so?	怎么了？
[57:34]	Lack of cooperation with our allies.	与我们的盟友缺乏合作
[57:37]	Apparently, our government’s not sharing any research with the Russians.	显然 我们的政府没有和俄国分享任何研究成果
[57:41]	He said most scientists think the policy is stupid.	他说 大多数科学家认为这项政策是愚蠢的
[57:48]	-Oh, yeah? -Yeah.	-哦 是吗？ -是的
[57:51]	He mentioned that if anyone had anything they wanted to pass on,	他提到如果有人想传递什么信息
[57:55]	going around official channels, that he could help.	他可以帮忙 通过官方渠道
[58:08]	That would be treason.	那是叛国罪
[58:10]	Yes, of course.	是的 当然
[58:12]	I just thought you should know.	我只是觉得你应该知道
[58:17]	The brat is down.	小家伙睡着了
[58:19]	Where are the martinis?	马提尼酒呢？
[58:25]	Coming right up.	马上就来
[58:27]	The conversation ended there.	谈话到此结束
[58:29]	Nothing in our long-standing friendship would have led me to believe	我们是多年的好友 我绝不相信
[58:32]	that Chevalier was actually seeking information,	舍瓦利耶实际上是在试探口风
[58:35]	and I am certain that he had no idea of the work in which I was engaged.	我敢肯定他对我所从事的工作一无所知
[58:44]	It has long been clear to me that I should have reported this incident at once.	我早就清楚地意识到 我应该立即报告此事
[58:49]	The Oppenheimer situation highlights the tension	奥本海默事件凸显了科学家与安全机构之间
[58:52]	between scientists and the security apparatus.	剑拔弩张的关系
[58:55]	In hopes of learning how the nominee handled such issues	希望能了解提名人在任职期原子能委员会期间
[58:57]	during his time at the AEC,	是如何处理这些问题的
[59:00]	we’ll have a scientist appearing before the committee.	我们将有一个科学家在委员会前作证
[59:04]	Who are they bringing in?	他们请的是谁？
[59:05]	They hadn’t said.	他们没说
[59:06]	Mr. Chairman, if I may, I’m nominated for Commerce Secretary.	主席先生 有个问题 我被提名为商务部长
[59:10]	Why seek the opinion of scientists?	为何要征求科学家的意见？
[59:13]	This is a cabinet post, Admiral.	这是内阁职位 将军
[59:15]	We seek a wide range of opinion.	我们广泛征求各种意见
[59:17]	I’d like to know the name of the scientist testifying.	我想知道作证的科学家是谁
[59:20]	I’d like the chance to cross-examine.	我希望有机会交叉询问
[59:22]	This is not a court.	这里不是法庭
[59:25]	Formality, huh?	例行公事 嗯？
[59:26]	No presidential cabinet nominee has failed to be confirmed since 1925.	自1925年以来 没有一位总统内阁提名人未经国会确认
[59:30]	This is just how the game is played.	这就是政治的游戏规则
[59:32]	It’s in the bag, Lewis. So play nice.	十拿九稳 刘易斯 所以放轻松
[59:35]	They bring in a scientist, so what?	他们带来了一个科学家 那又怎样？
[59:37]	You don’t know scientists like I do, Counselor.	你不像我这么了解科学家 律师先生
[59:39]	They resent anyone who questions their judgment,	他们憎恨任何质疑他们判断力的人
[59:41]	especially if you’re not one of them.	特别是当你不是他们中一员的时候
[59:43]	I was chair of the AEC.	我曾担任原子能委员会主席
[59:44]	I’m easy to blame for what happened to Robert.	罗伯特的事很容易怪罪到我头上
[59:46]	We can’t have the Senate thinking	我们不能让参议院认为
[59:48]	the scientific community doesn’t support you, sir.	科学界不支持你 先生
[59:51]	Or should we pivot?	或者我们应该转向？
[59:53]	-To what? -And embrace it.	-什么？ -豁出去
[59:56]	“I fought Oppenheimer, and the US won.”	“我打败了奥本海默 美国赢了”
[59:58]	I don’t think we need to go there.	我觉得我们没必要这么做
[59:59]	Isn’t there someone we can call who knows what really happened?	难道就没有人知道到底发生了什么吗？
[1:00:02]	-Teller. -He’ll make an impression.	-泰勒 -他会留下深刻印象的
[1:00:04]	Can you get the name of the scientist they’ve called?	你能知道他们找的那个科学家的名字吗？
[1:00:05]	-Probably. -Find out if he was based in Chicago	-试试看 -查查他是否住在芝加哥
[1:00:08]	or Los Alamos during the war.	或者战争时期在洛斯阿拉莫斯
[1:00:10]	Why does that matter?	这很重要吗？
[1:00:11]	Well, if he was based in Chicago, they worked under Szilard and Fermi,	如果他常住芝加哥 那就是西拉德和费米手下的人
[1:00:13]	not the cult to Bobby in Los Alamos.	不是洛斯阿拉莫斯那帮奥比的狂热崇拜者
[1:00:16]	Robert built that damn place. He was founder, mayor, sheriff.	罗伯特建造了那个鬼地方 他是创始人 市长 警长
[1:00:20]	All rolled into one.	统统集于一身
[1:00:34]	Now all it needs is a saloon.	万事俱备 只欠酒吧
[1:01:05]	There’s no kitchen.	没有厨房
[1:01:08]	Really? We’ll fix that.	真的吗? 我们会解决的
[1:01:17]	Barbed wire? Guns?	铁丝网? 枪？
[1:01:20]	-Oppie… -We’re at war, Hans.	-奥比…… -我们在打仗 汉斯
[1:01:25]	Halifax.	哈利法克斯
[1:01:27]	1917.	1917年
[1:01:28]	A cargo ship carrying munitions explodes in the harbor.	一艘载有军火的货船在港口发生爆炸
[1:01:33]	A vast and sudden chemical reaction.	一次巨大而突然的化学反应
[1:01:40]	The biggest man-made explosion in history.	这是史上最大的人为爆炸
[1:01:43]	Now, let’s calculate how much more destructive it would have been	现在 让我们计算一下它的破坏力有多大
[1:01:46]	if it were a nuclear and not a chemical reaction,	如果这是核反应而不是化学反应
[1:01:50]	expressing power in terms of tons of TNT.	以吨TNT来表示能量
[1:01:53]	But it will be thousands.	但会是上千级别
[1:01:55]	Well, then, kilotons.	那就 千吨
[1:02:01]	Using U-235,	使用U-235
[1:02:05]	the bomb will need a… -Uh…	-原子弹需要一…… -呃……
[1:02:07]	Sorry. Gadget will need a 33-pound sphere	抱歉 装置需要一个33磅重的球体
[1:02:10]	about this size,	大概这么大
[1:02:12]	or using plutonium, a ten-pound sphere.	或者使用钚 一个十磅重的球体
[1:02:17]	Here’s the amount of uranium Oak Ridge refined all of last month.	这是橡树岭上个月提炼的铀的总量
[1:02:25]	And the Hanford plant made this much plutonium.	而汉福德工厂生产了这么多钚
[1:02:30]	Now, if we can enrich these amounts, we need a way to detonate them.	现在 如果我们能浓缩这些数量 我们需要一种方法来引爆它们
[1:02:35]	Are we boring you, Edward?	我们让你无聊了吗 爱德华？
[1:02:37]	A little bit, yes.	有一点 是的
[1:02:39]	May I ask why?	我能问问为什么吗？
[1:02:40]	We all entered this room knowing a fission bomb was possible.	我们走进这个房间时 都知道制造裂变炸弹是可能的
[1:02:44]	How about we leave it with something new?	不如我们换个新点子吧？
[1:02:46]	Such as?	比如？
[1:02:48]	Instead of uranium or plutonium, we use hydrogen.	我们用氢代替铀或钚
[1:02:52]	Heavy hydrogen. Deuterium.	重氢 氘
[1:02:56]	You see, we compact the atoms together	你看 我们把原子压缩在一起
[1:02:58]	under great pressure to induce a fusion reaction.	在巨大的压力之下引发聚变反应
[1:03:03]	Then we’ll get not kilotons, but megatons.	然后我们得到的不是千吨级 而是百万吨级当量
[1:03:08]	Okay, hang on, hang on.	没事 等等 等等
[1:03:10]	So how do you generate enough force to fuse hydrogen atoms?	那么如何产生足够的能量来聚合氢原子呢？
[1:03:15]	A small fission bomb.	一颗小型原子弹
[1:03:17]	There we are!	这不一样吗！
[1:03:20]	Well, since we’re going to need one anyway,	好吧 既然我们无论如何都需要一个
[1:03:22]	can we get back to the business at hand?	我们能回到正题上来吗？
[1:03:24]	The isotopes issue wasn’t your most important	同位素问题不是最重要的
[1:03:27]	policy disagreement with Dr. Oppenheimer.	与奥本海默博士的政策分歧
[1:03:30]	It was the hydrogen bomb, wasn’t it?	是氢弹 对吧？
[1:03:33]	As colleagues, we agreed to disagree on a great many things, uh…	作为同事 我们承认在很多事情上存在分歧
[1:03:38]	And one of them was the need for an H-bomb program, yes.	其中之一就是需要一个氢弹项目 没错
[1:03:55]	Thanks for convening on short notice.	谢谢大家临时来参加会议
[1:03:58]	I can’t believe it.	非常难得
[1:04:00]	But here we are. Catch me up. What do we know?	人到齐了 跟我说说 我们现在知道些什么？
[1:04:04]	One of our B-29s over the North Pacific has detected radiation.	我们的一架B-29轰炸机在北太平洋上空探测到辐射
[1:04:08]	-Do we have the filter papers? -There’s no doubt what this is.	-我们有过滤纸吗？ -毫无疑问这意味着什么
[1:04:11]	-White House says there’s a doubt. -Wishful thinking, I’m afraid.	-白宫表示有疑问 -恐怕是一厢情愿
[1:04:14]	Are those the long-range detection filter papers?	那些是远程探测滤纸吗？
[1:04:18]	It’s an atomic test.	这是一次原子弹试验
[1:04:23]	The Russians have a bomb.	俄国人有原子弹了
[1:04:25]	We’re supposed to be years ahead of them, but this…	咱们不是应该领先他们几年吗 那这……
[1:04:28]	What were you guys doing in Los Alamos? Wasn’t security tight?	你们在洛斯拉莫斯忙什么? 安保不是很严密吗？
[1:04:31]	-Of course it was. You weren’t there. -Forgive me, Doctor.	-当然了 你又不在现场 -原谅我 博士
[1:04:36]	But I was there.	但我当时在那里
[1:04:39]	We can now consider the actual mechanics of detonation.	我们现在可以考虑爆炸的实际机制
[1:04:42]	-Any ideas? -I call this shooting.	-有什么想法吗？ -我管这叫枪式
[1:04:45]	We fire a chunk of fissionable material into a larger sphere	我们把一大块可裂变材料发射到一个更大的球体中
[1:04:49]	with enough force to achieve criticality.	以足够的力量达到临界质量
[1:04:52]	-What do we think? Anyone? -I’ve been thinking about implosion.	-你们觉得呢？谁说一说？ -我一直在考虑内爆式
[1:04:55]	Explosives around the sphere blast inwards, crushing the material.	球体周围的爆炸物向内爆炸 粉碎材料
[1:04:59]	-I’d like to investigate that idea. -I’ll talk to ordnance.	-我想研究一下这个想法 -我去跟制造商谈谈
[1:05:02]	Get you blowing things up.	让你把东西炸飞
[1:05:04]	-Progress? -Nice to see you too.	-进展顺利？ -我也很高兴见到你
[1:05:07]	Meet the British contingent.	来见见英国代表团
[1:05:09]	Dr. Oppenheimer. Klaus Fuchs.	奥本海默博士 克劳斯·福克斯
[1:05:11]	-How long have you been British? -Since Hitler told me I wasn’t German.	-你到英国多久了？ -自从希特勒告诉我 我不是德国人
[1:05:14]	Ah. Come, welcome to Los Alamos.	好啊 欢迎来到洛斯阿拉莫斯
[1:05:18]	The school’s up and running.	学校已经开学了
[1:05:19]	-The bar. -Always running.	-酒吧 -24小时营业
[1:05:23]	And I thought of a way to reduce support staff.	我想到了一个减少后勤人员的好办法
[1:05:26]	-Is that…? -Mrs. Serber, yes.	-那是……？ -塞伯尔太太 是的
[1:05:28]	I’ve offered jobs to all the wives, admin, librarians, computation.	我给所有的妻子提供管理员 图书管理员 计算员的工作
[1:05:32]	We cut down on staff, keep families together.	既能减员 又让家人团聚
[1:05:34]	-Are these women qualified? -Don’t be absurd.	-这些女人够资格吗？ -别傻了
[1:05:36]	These are some of the brightest minds in our community.	她们都是我们社区里一些最聪明的人
[1:05:38]	And they’re already security cleared.	而且她们已经通过了安全检查
[1:05:40]	I’ve informed General Groves you’ve been holding cross-divisional	我已经汇报格罗夫斯将军你一直在举行跨部门会议
[1:05:42]	open discussions on a nightly basis. -Shut them down.	每晚公开讨论 -关闭它们
[1:05:45]	Compartmentalization is the key	分隔化管理是重中之重
[1:05:47]	to maintaining security… -Only the top men.	为了严格保密 -仅限最高层人员
[1:05:49]	Who presumably communicate with subordinates.	那些需要与下属沟通的人
[1:05:51]	These men aren’t stupid. They can be discreet.	这些人不傻 他们很谨慎
[1:05:53]	-I don’t like it. -You don’t like anything enough	-我不喜欢这样 -你什么都不喜欢
[1:05:55]	for that to be a fair test.	这是一个公平的测试
[1:06:02]	Once a week. Top men only.	一周一次 仅限高层人士参加
[1:06:05]	-I’d like to bring my brother here. -No.	-我想带我弟弟来这里 -不
[1:06:09]	Nichols?	尼科尔斯？
[1:06:11]	I still haven’t heard that my security clearance has been approved.	我还没听说我的安全许可获得批准
[1:06:14]	-It hasn’t. -I’m going to Chicago tomorrow.	-还没有 -我明天要去芝加哥
[1:06:16]	Well, you should wait.	嗯 你应该等等
[1:06:18]	You are aware that the Nazis have a two-year head start?	你知道纳粹已经领先两年了吧？
[1:06:21]	Dr. Oppenheimer, the fact that your security clearance	奥本海默博士 你的安全许可很难获得批准
[1:06:22]	is proving difficult to obtain is not my fault.	事实上不是我的错
[1:06:25]	It’s yours.	是你的
[1:06:26]	It may not be your fault, but it’s your problem. Because I’m going.	也许不是你的错 但这是你的问题 因为我要去
[1:06:30]	And how many people were in these, uh…	有多少人牵涉到这个 呃……
[1:06:32]	open discussions?	公开讨论里面？
[1:06:34]	Too many. Compartmentalization was supposed to be the protocol.	太多了 分隔化管理应该有很多限制才对
[1:06:37]	We were in a race against the Nazis.	那时我们在和纳粹赛跑
[1:06:38]	And now the race is against the Soviets.	现在比赛对手是苏联人
[1:06:41]	-Not unless we start it. -Robert, they just fired the starting gun.	-除非我们先开始 -罗伯特 他们刚刚打响发令枪
[1:06:46]	What’s the nature of the device they detonated?	他们的引爆装置是什么？
[1:06:48]	Data indicates it may have been a plutonium implosion device.	数据显示可能是一个钚内爆装置
[1:06:52]	Like the one you built at Los Alamos.	就跟你在洛斯阿拉莫斯造的一样
[1:06:55]	The Russians have a bomb.	俄国人有了原子弹
[1:06:57]	-Truman needs to know what’s next. -What’s next? Arms talks.	-杜鲁门需要知道下一步怎么办 -下一步？武器谈判
[1:07:00]	-Arms talks? -Obviously.	-武器谈判？ -当然
[1:07:03]	What about the Super? Does Truman even know about it?	氢弹呢? 杜鲁门知道吗？
[1:07:05]	Did we brief him on that?	我们跟他汇报过吗？
[1:07:07]	Not specifically.	不是很具体
[1:07:09]	We still don’t know if a hydrogen bomb is technically feasible.	我们仍然不知道氢弹在技术上是否可行
[1:07:12]	Right, my understanding is that Teller proposed it.	对 我的理解是泰勒提议的
[1:07:14]	-At Los Alamos? -Yes.	-在洛斯阿拉莫斯？ -是的
[1:07:15]	Teller’s designs have always been wildly impractical.	泰勒的设计总是不切实际
[1:07:17]	You’d have to deliver by oxcart, not airplane.	你必须用牛车送货 而不是飞机
[1:07:21]	-Oppie! -I’m sorry, Dr. Lawrence,	-奥比！ -抱歉 劳伦斯博士
[1:07:23]	do you want to comment?	你有什么要说的吗？
[1:07:26]	No.	没有
[1:07:29]	Because if it can put us ahead again,	假如它能让我们再次保持领先
[1:07:31]	the President of the United States needs to know about it.	美国总统就需要知道这件事
[1:07:38]	And if the Russians know about it already from a spy,	假如俄国人通过在洛斯阿拉莫斯的间谍那里
[1:07:41]	at Los Alamos, then we’ve got to get going.	已经知道此事 那么我们就得立刻上马
[1:07:44]	There’s no proof there was a spy at Los Alamos.	没有证据表明洛斯阿拉莫斯有间谍
[1:07:47]	Robert.	罗伯特
[1:07:53]	They put it under the football stadium?	他们把它设在足球场下面？
[1:07:55]	The field’s not in use anymore.	这块地不再使用了
[1:07:57]	Just as well.	这样也好
[1:08:01]	-Oppie! -Dr. Fermi.	-奥比！ -费米博士
[1:08:05]	-I hear you’ve got a little town. -Yes, come and see.	-我听说你有个小镇 -是的 有空来坐坐
[1:08:10]	Who could think straight in a place like that, huh?	谁能在哪种地方正常思考呢？
[1:08:14]	Everybody will go crazy.	每个人都会疯掉的
[1:08:17]	Thank you the vote of confidence, Szilard.	谢谢你的信任 西拉德
[1:08:20]	Do we really… do we really need that in the notes?	我们真的……我们真的需要把这些全记下吗？
[1:08:24]	Are you gonna try it out?	你们要做试验吗？
[1:08:26]	We did.	我们做到了
[1:08:27]	The first self-sustaining nuclear chain reaction.	第一个受控自持链式核反应
[1:08:31]	Didn’t Groves tell you?	格罗夫斯没告诉你吗？
[1:08:33]	No.	没有
[1:08:42]	Dr. Oppenheimer?	奥本海默博士？
[1:08:44]	I tried personnel.	我去过人事部
[1:08:46]	-They asked if I could type. -Can you?	-他们问我会不会打字 -你会吗？
[1:08:48]	Harvard forgot to teach that on the graduate chemistry course.	哈佛大学在化学研究生课程上忘了教这个
[1:08:53]	Condon, put Mrs. Hornig here on the plutonium team.	康登 让霍尼格夫人加入钚小组
[1:09:02]	What the hell were you doing in Chicago?	你到底在芝加哥干什么？
[1:09:04]	-Visiting the met. -Why?	-参观大都会博物馆 -为什么？
[1:09:05]	-You can’t… -Why?	-你不能…… -为什么？
[1:09:06]	Because we, we have every right…	因为我们 我们有权……
[1:09:08]	You have just the rights that I give you. No more, no less.	你只有我赋予你的权利 不多不少
[1:09:12]	We are adults trying to run a project here. This is ridiculous.	我们都是成年人了 这样做项目太荒谬了
[1:09:16]	Tell him!	告诉他！
[1:09:18]	Compartmentalization is the protocol we agreed to.	分隔化管理是我们同意的协议
[1:09:22]	Enough of this madhouse. Nobody can work under these conditions.	受够了这个疯人院 没人能在这种条件下工作
[1:09:26]	You know what? Generalissimo, I quit!	你知道吗? 大帅 我不干了！
[1:09:30]	Thanks for nothing.	谢谢你什么都没做
[1:09:34]	Better off without him.	没有他会更好
[1:09:36]	Aren’t you more concerned about his discretion out there?	你不怕他泄露机密吗？
[1:09:41]	We’ll have him killed.	我们会杀了他
[1:09:44]	I’m just kidding.	开玩笑的
[1:09:46]	No, he hates me, not America.	不 他恨的是我 不是美国
[1:09:48]	You know, General, not everyone has levers to pull like mine.	你知道 将军 不是每个人都有像我这样的把柄
[1:09:52]	I don’t think I understand.	我不懂你说什么
[1:09:53]	You didn’t hire me despite my left-wing past. You hired me because of it.	你不是不管我是左翼才雇我的 你是因为我是左翼才雇我的
[1:09:58]	So you could control me.	这样你就能控制我了
[1:10:00]	No, I’m not that subtle. I’m just a humble soldier.	不 我没那么狡猾 我只是个普通的士兵
[1:10:04]	You’re neither humble, nor just a soldier. You studied engineering at MIT.	你既不普通 也不仅仅是个士兵 你在麻省理工学习工程学
[1:10:08]	-Guilty as charged. -Well, now we understand each other,	-罪名成立 -现在我们彼此理解了
[1:10:10]	perhaps you can get me my security clearance,	也许你能帮我弄到安全许可
[1:10:12]	so I can perform this miracle for you.	这样我就能为你创造奇迹
[1:10:20]	General Groves, were you aware	格罗夫斯将军 你知道
[1:10:22]	of Dr. Oppenheimer’s left-wing associations when you appointed him?	当你任命奥本海默博士时 他与左翼组织的关系？
[1:10:25]	I was aware that there were suspicions about him.	我知道有人怀疑他
[1:10:27]	I was aware he had a very extreme liberal background.	我知道他有非常极端的自由主义背景
[1:10:31]	In your opinion, would he ever consciously commit a disloyal act?	在你看来 他会有意识地做出叛国的行为吗？
[1:10:34]	I would be amazed if he did.	如果他做了 我会很惊讶的
[1:10:36]	So you had complete confidence in his integrity?	所以你完全相信他的正直？
[1:10:38]	At Los Alamos, yes. Which is where I really knew him.	在洛斯阿拉莫斯 是的 那是我真正了解他的地方
[1:10:41]	Do you know that your security officers on the project	你知不知道你的安全人员在这个项目上
[1:10:44]	advised you against the clearance of Dr. Oppenheimer?	建议你不要批准奥本海默博士的安全许可？
[1:10:46]	They could not, and would not, clear him until I insisted.	在我的坚持下 他们才为他办理了安全许可
[1:10:50]	And it’s safe to say that you had pretty good knowledge	可以肯定的说 你看过很多
[1:10:52]	of Dr. Oppenheimer’s security file. -I did.	奥本海默博士的安全档案 -是的
[1:10:56]	Well, then there’s only really one question I need answered here today.	那今天你只需回答我一个问题
[1:10:58]	In light of the current AEC guidelines, would you clear Dr. Oppenheimer today?	根据原子能委员会现行的指导方针 你今天会批准奥本海默博士的安全许可吗？
[1:11:03]	Do you have the guidelines?	你带来指导方针了吗？
[1:11:12]	Under current AEC guidelines,	根据原子能委员会现行的指导方针
[1:11:14]	would you clear Dr. Oppenheimer today?	你今天会批准奥本海默博士的安全许可吗？
[1:11:30]	Physics and New Mexico, huh?	物理学和新墨西哥 是吧？
[1:11:33]	My god. What a trek.	天啊 真是千里迢迢
[1:11:36]	-That’s why you need a liaison. -I’m appointing Lomanitz.	-所以你需要一个联络人 -我要任命洛马尼茨
[1:11:40]	You’re gonna be okay. This way, gentlemen.	你会没事的 这边请 先生们
[1:11:52]	-Dr. Lawrence. -Leslie.	-劳伦斯博士 -莱斯利
[1:11:55]	I’d like to remind you what we talked about at Berkeley.	我想提醒你我们在伯克利谈过的事
[1:11:57]	Compartmentalization, I understand completely.	分隔化管理 我完全理解
[1:12:14]	Greetings from Berkeley.	来自伯克利的问候
[1:12:15]	I am here to update you on our progress and solicit your input.	我来这里是为了向你更新我们的进展情况 并征求你的意见
[1:12:19]	To do so, I am going to have to share a few things that	要做到这一点 我必须分享一些事情
[1:12:21]	General Groves told me not to.	格罗夫斯将军不许我这么做
[1:12:24]	Sorry General, I said I understood, not that I agreed.	对不起 将军 我说我理解 不是说我同意
[1:12:27]	Okay. Gentlemen, to business!	好了 先生们 谈正事吧！
[1:12:30]	There were rumors of espionage	传闻说在洛斯阿拉莫斯
[1:12:32]	at Los Alamos. -Unsubstantiated.	有间谍活动 -未经证实
[1:12:34]	I’m told that there were communists	我听说有共产主义者
[1:12:37]	on the project. -We didn’t knowingly employ…	渗透这个项目 -我们并没有故意雇佣……
[1:12:38]	I just want to know, were any of them involved	我只是想知道 他们有没有参与……
[1:12:40]	in discussions of the Super?	氢弹的讨论？
[1:12:42]	I seem to remember you demanding your brother come to Los Alamos.	我记得你要求你弟弟来洛斯阿拉莫斯
[1:12:45]	-My brother had left the party by then. -What about Lomanitz?	-我弟弟那时已经脱离共产党了 -那洛马尼茨呢？
[1:12:48]	Lomanitz was never employed at Los Alamos. He was a liaison.	洛马尼茨从未受雇于洛斯阿拉莫斯 他只是个联络员
[1:12:51]	Our security was tight, as former Colonel Nichols well knows.	我们的安保措施非常严密 前上校尼科尔斯很清楚这一点
[1:12:54]	Our security was as tight as it could be given the personalities involved,	考虑到所涉及的人员 我们的安保措施非常严密
[1:12:56]	but attempts were made.	但只能尽力而为
[1:12:58]	-What is that supposed to mean? -We’ve all read his file here.	-那是什么意思？ -我们都看过他的档案
[1:13:02]	Do we need to talk about Jean Tatlock?	我们需要谈谈琼·塔特洛克吗？
[1:13:05]	Or the Chevalier incident?	还是舍瓦利耶事件？
[1:13:11]	Excuse me.	不好意思
[1:13:15]	Lomanitz, line one!	洛马尼茨 一号线！
[1:13:24]	Hello, Rossi. What?	你好 洛西 什么？
[1:13:27]	Okay, just calm down.	好吧 冷静点
[1:13:29]	There’s been another screwup.	又出事了
[1:13:30]	-Lomanitz just got drafted. -We are at war, Doctor.	-洛马尼茨刚被征召入伍 -我们在打仗 博士
[1:13:33]	Don’t be an asshole, Nichols. We need this kid. Fix it, will you?	别这么混蛋 尼克尔斯 我们需要这孩子 搞掂它 好吗？
[1:13:37]	It wasn’t a mistake.	这不是个错误
[1:13:38]	Your friend Lomanitz has been trying to unionize the radiation lab.	你的朋友洛马尼茨一直在试图组建辐射实验室的工会
[1:13:41]	-He promised to quit all that. -Well, he hasn’t.	-他答应放弃这一切 -嗯 他没有
[1:13:45]	The security officer at Berkeley is concerned about communist infiltration	伯克利的安全官员担心共产党渗透
[1:13:48]	-FAECT. through that union, the FA…	通过那个工会 叫什么FA…… -FAECT.
[1:13:54]	While I’m there next week, I’ll… drop in to see him.	下周我去的时候 我会……顺便去看看他
[1:14:00]	Your Q clearance came through.	你的安全许可批准了
[1:14:05]	It’s important you not maintain or renew any questionable associations.	重要的是你不能再接触任何有问题的联系人
[1:14:14]	Doctor, did you think social contacts	博士 你是否觉得一个从事秘密战争工作的人
[1:14:16]	between a person engaged on secret war work and communists was dangerous?	和共产主义者之间保持社交关系是危险的？
[1:14:20]	My awareness of the danger would be greater today.	我今天对危险的意识会更强烈
[1:14:24]	I mean, it’s fair to say that during the war years,	我的意思是 公平地说 在战争年代
[1:14:27]	you felt that such contacts were potentially dangerous.	你认为这样的接触是存在潜在危险的
[1:14:36]	Were conceivably dangerous, yes.	是的 确实很危险
[1:14:39]	I mean, really!	我是说真的！
[1:14:42]	Known communists.	著名的共产主义者
[1:14:46]	Look…	你看……
[1:14:48]	I’ve had a lot of secrets in my head for a long time.	我脑子里有很多秘密已经很久了
[1:14:53]	Doesn’t matter who I associate with, I don’t talk about those secrets.	不管和谁交往 我从不谈论那些秘密
[1:15:05]	You said in your statement	你在证词里说
[1:15:08]	that you had to see Jean Tatlock in 1943.	1943年你必须去见琼·塔特洛克
[1:15:14]	You left.	你离开了
[1:15:17]	Not a word.	什么也不说
[1:15:19]	What did you think that would do to me?	你知道这有多伤我么？
[1:15:22]	I wrote.	我写了信的
[1:15:24]	Pages of nothing.	写的全是废话
[1:15:28]	Where did you go?	你到底去哪儿了？
[1:15:31]	-I can’t tell you. -Why not?	-我不能说 -为什么？
[1:15:33]	Because you’re a communist.	因为你是共产党员
[1:15:37]	Why did you have to see her?	你为什么一定要见她？
[1:15:39]	She had indicated a great desire to see me before we left.	我走之前她特别想见我
[1:15:44]	At that time I couldn’t, but I felt that she had to see me.	但我没去 我觉得我需要去见他
[1:15:49]	She was undergoing psychiatric treatment. She was extremely unhappy.	她当时在接受心理治疗 她需要我
[1:15:53]	Did you find out why she had to see you?	她为什么偏偏要见你呢？
[1:16:01]	Because she was still in love with me.	因为她还爱着我
[1:16:10]	You spent the night together, didn’t you?	你们过了一夜 是吗？
[1:16:20]	Yes.	是的
[1:16:27]	You drop in and out of my life, and you don’t have to tell me why.	你在我的生活里忽隐忽现 却从不告诉我为什么
[1:16:33]	-And that’s power. -Not that I enjoy.	-你很享受这种权力吧 -我不享受
[1:16:37]	I’d rather be here for you as you need.	我宁愿在你需要的时候陪在你身边
[1:16:40]	But you have other priorities now.	但你现在有别的事情要做
[1:16:43]	I have a wife and child.	我有老婆和孩子
[1:16:46]	That’s not what either of us is talking about.	我们说的不是这个
[1:16:52]	Jean… you asked me to come.	琼……是你叫我来的
[1:16:57]	And I’m glad I did.	我来了 我也很乐意
[1:17:00]	But I can’t see you again.	但我不能再见你了
[1:17:04]	But what if I need you?	那我需要你的时候呢？
[1:17:10]	You said you would always answer.	你说只要我叫 你永远都会来的
[1:17:15]	Not a word?	什么也不说？
[1:17:18]	Did you think that consistent with good security?	你觉得这次见面符合安保措施的规定吗？
[1:17:20]	As a matter of fact, it was.	事实上 是的
[1:17:22]	Not a word.	什么也不说
[1:17:24]	When did you see her after that?	那之后你什么时候见过她？
[1:17:34]	I never saw her again.	我再也没见过她
[1:17:42]	I can make the last train back to Princeton.	我能赶上最后一班回普林斯顿的火车
[1:17:45]	Kitty, I didn’t say anything that I hadn’t already told you.	凯蒂 我不会说什么我没告诉你的
[1:17:48]	Today you said it to history, didn’t you?	今天你对历史说了 不是吗？
[1:17:50]	This is a closed hearing.	这是一个闭门听证会
[1:17:54]	If they don’t release the transcript, I’m sure you will.	如果他们不公布记录 我相信你会的
[1:17:56]	-I was under oath. -Well, you were under an oath to me	-我发过誓的 -你也对我发过誓
[1:17:58]	when you went to see Jean.	当你去见琼的时候
[1:18:01]	You know, you…	你知道 你……
[1:18:03]	You sit there, day after day,	你坐在那里 日复一日
[1:18:07]	letting them pick our lives to pieces.	让他们把我们的生活撕个粉碎
[1:18:12]	Why won’t you fight?	你为什么不反抗？
[1:18:17]	Robert, I’m not putting her up there.	罗伯特 我不同意让她做证
[1:18:25]	Dr. Oppenheimer! This is an honor. Please, take a seat.	奥本海默博士 很荣幸见到你 请坐
[1:18:28]	No need. I just wanted to check whether I should…	不用了 我只是想确认一下我是否应该……
[1:18:32]	talk to Lomanitz while I’m here, given your concerns.	考虑到你的担心 我在这的时候和洛马尼茨谈谈
[1:18:34]	I’d say that’s really up to you, Professor, but I’d be cautious.	我想说这完全取决于你 教授 但我会小心谨慎
[1:18:37]	Understood.	明白
[1:18:39]	Oh, and, um, as regards to the union,	噢 还有 关于工会
[1:18:41]	I wanted to give you a heads up on a man named Eltenton.	我想提醒你一下一个叫埃尔坦登的人
[1:18:45]	A heads up?	提醒一下？
[1:18:46]	Yes, just that he might bear watching, is all.	是的 只是他可能值得关注 仅此而已。
[1:18:51]	I’d love to get more details.	我想了解更多细节
[1:18:53]	I have an appointment now, and I leave early tomorrow.	我现在有个约会 明天一早就出发
[1:18:56]	Well, come back as early as you like.	好的 早点回来 我随时恭候
[1:18:58]	Since you haven’t time now.	既然你现在没有时间
[1:19:00]	-You went back the next morning. -I did. I had to, really.	-你第二天早上就回去了 -是的 我不得不这么做 真的
[1:19:05]	This time there was another man.	这次还有另一个人
[1:19:08]	-He said his name was Pash. -Pash. You met Colonel Pash?	-他说他叫帕什 – 帕什 你见到帕什上校？
[1:19:12]	Colonel Pash, could you please read from your memo dated June 29, 1943?	帕什上校 你能念一下你在1943年6月29日的备忘录吗？
[1:19:20]	“Results of surveillance conducted on subject	“对目标进行监视的结果
[1:19:22]	“indicate further possible Communist Party connections.”	“进一步表明可能与共产党有联系”
[1:19:25]	“Subject met with and spent considerable time with one Jean Tatlock,	“目标与一个叫琼·塔特洛克的人见面并待了相当长一段时间
[1:19:28]	“a communist, the record of whom is attached.”	“一个共产主义者 记录附后”
[1:19:31]	-The subject being Dr. Oppenheimer? -Yes.	-“目标”是指奥本海默博士吗？ -是的
[1:19:33]	-Whom you had not met? -Not then, but soon after.	-你没见过他？ -那时没有 但很快就见到了
[1:19:37]	He’s the head of security for the project. Shouldn’t I know him?	他是这个项目的安全主管 我应该认识他吗？
[1:19:39]	No, he should know you.	不 他应该认识你
[1:19:41]	I would never put you in a room with Pash.	我绝不会让你和帕什待在同一间房子里
[1:19:43]	Why not?	为什么？
[1:19:44]	When Pash first heard about Lomanitz,	当帕什第一次听说洛马尼茨时
[1:19:46]	he told the FBI he was going to kidnap him,	他对联邦调查局说他要绑架他
[1:19:49]	take him out on a boat,	带他上船出海
[1:19:51]	and interrogate him in the Russian manner.	用俄国人的方式审问他
[1:19:57]	General Groves has placed in me a certain responsibility,	格罗夫斯将军赋予了我一定的职责
[1:19:59]	and it’s like having a child who I can’t see, by remote control.	就像通过遥控器和一个我看不见的孩子打交道
[1:20:05]	So to actually meet you is…	所以真正见到本人……
[1:20:08]	-I won’t take up too much of your time. -Oh, no.	-我不会占用你太多时间 -哦 不
[1:20:10]	Not at all. Whatever time you choose.	一点也不 随你奉陪
[1:20:13]	Mr. Johnson told me of the conversation you had yesterday,	约翰逊先生告诉我你们昨天的谈话
[1:20:15]	which I’m very interested in. It’s had me worried all day.	我很感兴趣 这让我担心了一整天
[1:20:19]	Yes, well, I didn’t want to talk to Lomanitz without authorization.	是的 好吧 我不想在未经授权的情况下和洛马尼茨谈话
[1:20:22]	That’s not the particular interest that I have.	这不是我特别感兴趣的
[1:20:24]	It’s something a little bit more…	头绪变得有点多……
[1:20:27]	In my opinion, more serious.	在我看来 更严重了
[1:20:29]	And then when the FBI pointed out	然后当联邦调查局指出
[1:20:30]	that such information wouldn’t be admissible in court,	这样的信息是不会被法庭采纳的
[1:20:33]	Pash made it clear he had no intention	帕什拍胸脯保证 他绝不会
[1:20:35]	of leaving any witness left to prosecute.	留下任何证人给人起诉
[1:20:37]	Now, the FBI talked him down, but that’s the man you’re dancing with.	后来 联邦调查局总算说服了他 但他就是你的影子
[1:20:41]	I gather you’ve heard there are other parties	我想你已经听说了还有其他政党
[1:20:43]	interested in the work of the radiation lab?	也对辐射实验室的工作感兴趣吧？
[1:20:46]	A man attached to the Soviet consul indicated,	一个和苏联领事有关系的人说
[1:20:51]	through intermediate people, to people on this project,	这个项目里的人 通过他作中间人
[1:20:55]	that he was in a position to transmit information.	能够传递一些信息
[1:20:58]	Well, why would anyone on the project want to do that?	为什么这个项目里的人要这么做？
[1:21:02]	Frankly, I can see that there might be an argument for the Commander-in-Chief	坦率地说 我认为总司令通知俄罗斯人是有道理的
[1:21:06]	informing the Russians, they’re our allies, after all, but…	毕竟他们是我们的盟友 但是……
[1:21:09]	I don’t like the idea of it going out the back door.	我不喜欢偷偷摸摸的想法
[1:21:12]	It might not hurt to be on the lookout for it.	留意一下也许没什么坏处
[1:21:16]	And you said that to Pash.	你对帕什也这么说
[1:21:17]	I was trying to put it in the context of “Russia’s not Germany”.	我试图把整件事置于“俄国不是德国”的背景下
[1:21:22]	Boris Pash is the son of a Russian Orthodox bishop.	鲍里斯・帕什是俄国东正教主教的儿子
[1:21:26]	Born here, but in 1918 he went back to Russia to fight the Bolsheviks.	他出生在这里 但1918年他返回俄国与布尔什维克作战
[1:21:31]	This is a man who has killed communists with his own hands.	这是一个与共产党不共戴天的仇人
[1:21:34]	I’m not the judge of who should or should not have information.	谁该知道谁不该知道 我说了不算
[1:21:37]	It’s my business to stop it from going through illegally.	我的职责就是阻止它非法传出去
[1:21:40]	Could you be a little more specific?	你能说得再具体点吗？
[1:21:44]	There’s a man whose name was mentioned to me, a couple of times, Eltenton.	有个人的名字被提到过好几次 埃尔坦登
[1:21:50]	I believe he’s a chemist who works at Shell.	我相信他是在壳牌公司工作的化学家
[1:21:53]	He talked to a friend of his,	他和他的一个朋友聊天
[1:21:56]	who’s an acquaintance of someone on the project.	他朋友是这个项目里某个人的熟人
[1:22:01]	And you thought Pash would be satisfied with that?	你觉得帕什会对此满意吗？
[1:22:03]	I was attempting to give them Eltenton without opening a can of worms.	我试图给他们埃尔坦登 同时又避免捅出大篓子
[1:22:07]	I told them a cock-and-bull story.	我给他们编了个荒唐的故事
[1:22:09]	-Did you lie to General Groves, too? -No.	-你也对格罗夫斯将军撒谎了吗？ -没有
[1:22:12]	I admitted to him that I’d lied to Pash.	我向他承认我对帕什撒谎了
[1:22:14]	Do you recall this conversation about the Chevalier incident?	你还记得这次关于舍瓦利耶事件的谈话吗？
[1:22:18]	I’ve seen so many versions of it, uh…	我看过很多版本 呃……
[1:22:21]	Wasn’t confused before, but I’m certainly getting there now.	以前没搞混 但现在肯定搞混了
[1:22:24]	-And what was your conclusion? -That he was under the influence	-你的结论是什么？ -他受影响太深
[1:22:27]	of the typical American schoolboy attitude	典型的美国男生态度
[1:22:30]	that there’s something wicked about telling on a friend.	告发朋友是一件卑鄙龌龊的事情
[1:22:34]	Well now, might we know through whom the contact was made?	现在 我们能知道联系人是谁吗？
[1:22:39]	That would involve people who are not to be involved in this.	那会牵连到本不应涉及此事的人
[1:22:43]	Is that someone a member of the project?	那个人是项目的成员吗？
[1:22:46]	A member of the faculty, yes, but not in the project, no.	是的 一名教员 但不是这个项目的成员
[1:22:49]	Ah…	啊……
[1:22:51]	So Eltenton made his approach through a member of the faculty here at Berkeley.	所以埃尔坦登通过伯克利大学的一名教员进行接触
[1:22:58]	As far as I know, as far as I know, yes.	据我所知 据我所知 是的
[1:23:00]	But there… may have been… more than one person involved.	但是……可能有……不止一个人牵涉其中
[1:23:10]	Gentlemen, if I… if I seem uncooperative,	先生们 如果我…… 如果我拒绝透露
[1:23:12]	I think you can understand it’s because of my insistence	我希望你能理解这是因为我的原则
[1:23:15]	on not getting innocent people into trouble.	不能让无辜的人陷入麻烦
[1:23:18]	You’re trying to protect your friend. Who’s protecting you?	你想保护你的朋友 谁来保护你呢？
[1:23:21]	Well, you could.	嗯 你啊
[1:23:23]	-If you gave me the name… -If you order me to, I’ll do it.	-如果你告诉我名字…… -如果你命令我 我会说的
[1:23:25]	That’s a mistake, Robert. You need to volunteer this name.	这是个错误 罗伯特 你得主动提出这个名字
[1:23:30]	Did he give you the name?	他告诉你名字了吗？
[1:23:31]	-He did. -But not then, did he?	-他说了 -但不是那时候 不是吗？
[1:23:33]	-No. -No, in fact,	-不 -不 实际上
[1:23:34]	it was some months later, wasn’t it?	那是几个月后的事 对不对？
[1:23:36]	It was.	是的
[1:23:37]	-You see me as persistent. -Well, you are…	-你觉得我很固执 -嗯 你是……
[1:23:40]	you are persistent, but that is your job.	你是很固执 但那是你的职责
[1:23:42]	And, and my job is to protect the people that work for me.	而 而我的职责就是保护我手下的人
[1:23:46]	Instead of us going on certain steps,	在我们采取某种措施之前
[1:23:48]	which may come to your attention…	你可能会注意到
[1:23:51]	and be disturbing to you,	这些措施会让你感到不安
[1:23:53]	I would like to discuss those with you first.	我想先和你讨论一下
[1:23:56]	I’m not formulating a plan, I’ll just have to digest the whole thing.	我不是在制定计划 我只是要消化一下整件事情
[1:24:04]	In the months in between your interview with Dr. Oppenheimer,	在你和奥本海默博士交谈后的几个月里
[1:24:07]	and his eventual naming of Chevalier, did you expend resources trying to find	以及整件事最终被命名为“舍瓦利耶事件” 你有没有动用一切力量试图找出
[1:24:11]	the name of the intermediary? -Considerable resources, yes.	中间人的名字？ -动用一切力量 是的
[1:24:15]	Without the name, our job was extremely difficult.	没有这个名字 我们的工作寸步难行
[1:24:18]	-And when did you receive the name? -I was gone by the time Oppenheimer	-你什么时候知道这个名字的？ -那会我已经走了 奥本海默最终
[1:24:21]	finally offered it up. -Gone?	提交的时候 -走了？
[1:24:23]	They felt my time would be better spent in Europe,	他们觉得我待在欧洲更好
[1:24:25]	determining the status of the Nazi bomb project.	调查纳粹原子弹计划的情况
[1:24:28]	Who did?	谁干的？
[1:24:30]	General Groves.	格罗夫斯将军
[1:24:32]	He transferred me to London.	他把我调到了伦敦
[1:24:40]	It’s a little early for a Christmas party.	现在开圣诞派对有点早吧
[1:24:42]	Something’s up.	出事了
[1:24:44]	Tolman’s been away.	托尔曼走了
[1:24:46]	Where?	去哪儿？
[1:24:48]	Ruth won’t tell.	鲁丝不会说的
[1:24:59]	Come on, Ruthie.	说吧 鲁丝
[1:25:00]	If you can’t tell me, who can you tell?	如果你不告诉我 你能告诉谁？
[1:25:03]	Compartmentalization, Oppie.	分隔化管理 奥比
[1:25:06]	What makes you think I know where he is, anyway?	你凭什么认为我知道他在哪？
[1:25:08]	Because you do a pretty good job	因为你做得很好
[1:25:09]	of knowing where Mr. Tolman is when it counts.	在关键时刻知道 托尔曼先生在哪里
[1:25:12]	Like now?	就像现在？
[1:25:13]	Attention!	立正！
[1:25:20]	Early Christmas present for you all.	提前给你们准备了圣诞礼物
[1:25:30]	The British pilot put me in the bomb bay.	英国飞行员把我放进炸弹舱
[1:25:32]	He showed me the oxygen, you know, but I messed it up.	他塞给我氧气罩 但我搞砸了
[1:25:36]	Um, when they opened me up in Scotland, I was unconscious.	他们在苏格兰给我开刀的时候 我昏迷过去
[1:25:39]	But I pretended I’d been napping.	但我假装睡着了
[1:25:42]	Please enjoy your party.	祝大家玩得开心
[1:25:44]	-Is it big enough? -To end the war?	-够大吗？ -为了结束战争？
[1:25:48]	To end all war.	结束一切战争
[1:25:53]	Uh, Heisenberg sought me out in Copenhagen.	呃 海森堡来哥本哈根找我
[1:25:58]	It was chilling, my old student working for the Nazis.	我以前的学生为纳粹工作 真教人不寒而栗
[1:26:01]	He told me some things to draw me out.	他透露我一些事情想吸引我
[1:26:06]	Sustained fission reactions in uranium.	铀的持续裂变反应
[1:26:09]	That sounds more like a reactor than a bomb.	听起来更像是反应堆而不是原子弹
[1:26:11]	Did he mention gaseous diffusion?	他提到气体扩散法了吗？
[1:26:13]	He seemed more focused on heavy water.	他似乎更专注于重水
[1:26:16]	-As a moderator? -Yes, instead of graphite.	-作为减速剂？ -是的 而不是石墨
[1:26:22]	What?	怎么了？
[1:26:23]	He took a wrong turn.	他拐错弯道
[1:26:25]	We’re ahead.	我们领先了
[1:26:27]	And with you here to help us, Niels…	有你在这里帮助我们 尼尔斯……
[1:26:28]	Sorry, could you give us a moment, gentlemen?	抱歉 能让我们单独谈谈吗 先生们？
[1:26:39]	I am not here to help, Robert.	我不是来帮忙的 罗伯特
[1:26:41]	I knew you could do this without me.	我知道没有我你也能成功
[1:26:43]	-Then why did you come? -To talk about after.	-那你为什么来？ -以后再说
[1:26:46]	The power you’re about to reveal will forever outlive the Nazis.	你即将释放的力量 纳粹毁灭后也将一直存在
[1:26:51]	And the world is not prepared.	而这个世界还没有准备好
[1:26:53]	“You can lift the stone without being ready for the snake that’s revealed.”	“在你准备好对付蛇之前 千万不要搬开大石头”
[1:26:56]	We have to make the politicians understand this isn’t a new weapon.	我们得让政客们明白这不是什么新武器
[1:27:00]	It’s a new world.	这是一个新世界
[1:27:02]	I’ll be out there doing what I can, but you…	我会尽我所能 但是你……
[1:27:05]	You’re an American Prometheus.	你是美国的普罗米修斯
[1:27:08]	The man who gave them the power to destroy themselves.	是你给他们毁灭自己的力量
[1:27:12]	And they’ll respect that.	他们会尊重这一点
[1:27:14]	Your work really begins.	你的工作才真正开始
[1:27:20]	I’m sorry, Oppie, but there’s a call.	对不起 奥比 有电话找你
[1:27:25]	From San Francisco.	来自旧金山
[1:27:33]	Robert!	罗伯特！
[1:27:39]	Robert?	罗伯特？
[1:27:40]	Robert.	罗伯特
[1:27:42]	Robert.	罗伯特
[1:27:43]	God, what’s the matter?	天啊 怎么了？
[1:27:45]	What happened?	发生了什么？
[1:27:48]	Her father called.	她父亲打来电话
[1:27:50]	He found her yesterday in the bath.	她把自己锁在浴室里
[1:27:53]	Who?	谁？
[1:27:55]	She’s taken pills. Left a note, not signed.	她吃了药 留下一张没有签名的字条
[1:28:00]	She took barbiturates, but there was chloral hydrate in her blood.	她服用了巴比妥类药物 但血液里有水合氯醛
[1:28:07]	There was a note.	有张纸条
[1:28:08]	Jean Tatlock?	琼·塔特洛克？
[1:28:16]	We were together.	我们相爱过
[1:28:18]	She said she needed me. I…	她说她需要我
[1:28:23]	I told her I…	我告诉她我……
[1:28:24]	I wouldn’t…	我不能……
[1:28:26]	I told her I…	我告诉她我……
[1:28:28]	No, it was me, it was me.	不 是我 是我
[1:28:32]	You don’t get to commit the sin	你不能认罪
[1:28:34]	and then have us all feel sorry for you that it had consequences.	让我们都为你感到难过 这样后果不堪设想
[1:28:41]	Now you pull yourself together.	你一定要振作起来
[1:28:47]	You know, people here depend on you.	明白吗 这里的人都需要你
[1:28:51]	Donald, would you like to contribute here?	唐纳德 做点有用的事情好吗？
[1:28:53]	-Please, help me out. -You’re on your own, pal.	-拜托 帮帮我 -你得靠自己 伙计
[1:28:54]	Bob, I’m not quitting my job because plutonium is radioactive.	鲍勃 我不会因为钚有放射性就辞职的
[1:28:57]	We just don’t know what it might do	我们只是不知道它会导致什么
[1:28:59]	to the female reproductive system. -Your reproductive system	进入女性生殖系统 -你的生殖系统
[1:29:02]	is more exposed than mine, presumably. -Can we please?	可能比我的暴露程度更高 -我们可以吗？
[1:29:05]	-The implosion device is nowhere. -We can’t rush everything. Oppie, please.	-内爆装置来不及了 -我们不能急于求成 奥比 拜托
[1:29:08]	Well, there’s rushing and there’s getting on with it, so pick one.	既要赶时间 又要做得好 只能二选一
[1:29:11]	Wait, wait, wait. Neddermeyer is doing his job.	等等 等等 等等 尼德迈尔在埋头苦干
[1:29:13]	Teller’s not helping. You’re not helping.	泰勒没帮上忙 你也不帮忙
[1:29:15]	I’ve been asking for calculations on the implosion lenses for weeks.	几周来我一直在问内爆透镜的计算结果
[1:29:18]	-The British can do it. Fuchs. -Absolutely.	-英国人能做到 福克斯 -当然
[1:29:21]	-It’s your job, Teller. -I’m engaged in research.	-这是你的工作 泰勒 -我在做研究
[1:29:24]	On a hydrogen bomb we’re not even building!	我们根本就没在造氢弹！
[1:29:35]	I won’t work with that man.	我不会和那个人合作的
[1:29:36]	Oh. Let him go.	哦 让他走
[1:29:39]	-He’s a prima donna! -I agree.	-他是个自命不凡的娘炮！ -同意
[1:29:41]	-He should leave Los Alamos. -Okay.	-他应该离开洛斯阿拉莫斯 -好的
[1:29:44]	Kisti, you replace Neddermeyer. Seth, I’m putting you on plutonium.	科斯基 你代替尼德迈尔 塞斯 我把你放在钚小组
[1:29:47]	Lilli, you go on for Kisti, because he needs you.	莉莉 你去跟科斯基 因为他需要你
[1:29:51]	Fuchs, you take Teller’s role.	福克斯 你接替泰勒的角色
[1:29:52]	I’m putting you exclusively on the implosion device.	我让你专门负责内爆装置
[1:29:55]	And no one is leaving Los Alamos.	没人能离开洛斯阿拉莫斯
[1:30:13]	-They won’t let me leave! -No, I won’t let you leave.	-他们不让我走！ -不 我不会让你走的
[1:30:18]	Forget Hans, forget fission.	忘了汉斯 忘了裂变
[1:30:21]	Stay here, research what you want.	留在这里 研究你想要的东西
[1:30:24]	Fusion, the hydrogen bomb, whatever.	核聚变 氢弹什么的
[1:30:26]	-We’ll meet to discuss it. -You don’t have time to meet.	-我们会见面讨论的 -你没时间见我
[1:30:29]	You’re a politician now, Robert. You’ve left physics behind many, many years ago.	你现在是个政客 罗伯特 你已经把物理学抛在脑后很多很多年了
[1:30:34]	Once a week.	一周一次
[1:30:36]	One hour, you and me.	一个小时 你和我
[1:30:44]	Now raise this fucking barrier!	现在升起这该死的路障！
[1:30:51]		那么氢弹是你在洛斯阿拉莫斯监督开发的？ So the氢弹was under development on your watch at Los Alamos?
[1:30:54]	Yes.	是的
[1:30:56]	And yet, after the war, you tried to deny it was viable.	然而 在战后 你试图否认它的可行性
[1:30:59]	No, no, no. I pointed out technical difficulties with it.	不 不 不 我只是指出它在技术上的困难
[1:31:03]	Didn’t you try to kill it at the AEC meeting	你不是想在原子能委员会会议上扼杀它吗
[1:31:04]	after the Russian bomb test? -No.	-在俄国原子弹试验之后？ -没有
[1:31:06]	But that was the recommendation of the AEC, was it not?	这是原子能委员会的建议 不是吗？
[1:31:09]	After hours of discussion about the best response.	在讨论了几个小时的最佳应对之后
[1:31:13]	An H-bomb is 1,000 times the power of an A-bomb.	氢弹的威力是原子弹的1000倍
[1:31:19]	Its only intended target would be the largest cities.	它唯一的目标是最大的城市
[1:31:23]	-It’s a weapon of mass genocide. -Izzy.	-这是大规模种族灭绝的武器 -伊兹
[1:31:25]	Draw some circles on this side of the map,	在地图的这一边画一些圆圈
[1:31:27]	where they would target us, starting with New York.	他们的目标是我们 从纽约开始
[1:31:30]	-That’s fair. -D.C.	-很公平 -华盛顿特区
[1:31:31]	It’s a weapon of attack with no defensive value.	这是一种攻击性武器 没有任何防御作用
[1:31:34]	-Deterrence. -Deterrence?	-威慑 -威慑？
[1:31:35]	Do we really need more deterrence than our current arsenal of atomic bombs?	我们真的需要比我们目前的原子弹武器库更多的威慑吗？
[1:31:39]	You, you drown in ten feet of water or 10,000, what’s the difference?	你 你淹死在10英尺深的水里还是一万英尺深的水里 有什么区别？
[1:31:44]	We can already drown Russia. They know it…	我们已经可以淹没俄国了 他们知道……
[1:31:46]	-Now they can drown us with… -We’re just escalating…	-现在他们也可以淹没我们…… -我们只是在升级……
[1:31:59]	As I said, Teller’s designs are still as impractical as they were during the war.	正如我所说 泰勒的设计和战时一样不切实际
[1:32:04]	A hydrogen bomb can be made to work, Oppie. You know that.	氢弹是可行的 奥比 你懂的
[1:32:07]	I don’t believe we should commit all our resources to that chance.	我不建议我们应该把所有的资源都用在这上面
[1:32:10]	Then how would you have Truman reassure the American people?	那你怎么让杜鲁门安抚美国人民呢？
[1:32:13]	Simply by limiting the spread of atomic weapons	只需限制原子武器的扩散
[1:32:15]	through international control on nuclear energy.	通过对核能的国际管制
[1:32:18]	By which you mean world government.	你是说世界政府
[1:32:20]	The United Nations, as Roosevelt intended.	联合国 正如罗斯福所希望的那样
[1:32:23]	Well, I asked what Truman should do, right? The world’s changed.	嗯 我是问杜鲁门该怎么办 对吧？世界变了
[1:32:27]	It’s not fascism but communism that now threatens our survival.	威胁我们生存的不是法西斯主义 而是共产主义
[1:32:31]	Lewis, do you understand, if we build a hydrogen bomb,	刘易斯 你明白吗 如果我们制造氢弹
[1:32:34]	the Russians will have no choice but to build their own?	俄国人将别无选择 只能建造自己的？
[1:32:37]	Could they be working on one already?	他们不是正在做吗？
[1:32:38]	Based on information gathered from the spy at Los Alamos…	根据从洛斯阿拉莫斯的间谍那里得到的信息……
[1:32:41]	-No spy at Los Alamos. -Gentlemen…	-洛斯阿拉莫斯没有间谍 -先生们……
[1:32:43]	-There wasn’t? -Let’s not get sidetracked.	-没有吗？ -我们不要跑题
[1:32:46]	I say we use this moment to gain concessions from the Russians	我觉得我们应该利用这个机会让俄国人让步
[1:32:48]	by committing that we will not build a hydrogen bomb.	通过承诺我们不会制造氢弹
[1:32:51]	Thereby revealing its existence.	那就会暴露它的存在
[1:32:53]	Which you seem convinced they already know.	你似乎确信他们已经知道了
[1:32:55]	Alright.	好吧
[1:32:57]	At this point, I’d like the committee members to meet in privacy	现在 我希望委员会成员能私下交流
[1:33:00]	to finalize our recommendations.	最终确定我们的建议
[1:33:04]	I’m just not sure you want to go down this route.	我只是不确定你是否想走这条路
[1:33:06]	Lewis, with respect, we are the advisory committee.	刘易斯 恕我直言 我们是顾问委员会
[1:33:08]	We will give them our advice.	我们会给他们我们的建议
[1:33:10]	Good night.	晚安
[1:33:15]	Dr. Oppenheimer? Hi.	奥本海默博士? 你好
[1:33:18]	William Borden. Joint Committee on Atomic Energy.	我是威廉·博登 原子能联合委员会的
[1:33:21]	Oh, yes, yes.	哦 是的 是的
[1:33:22]	During the war, I was a pilot.	战争期间 我是个飞行员
[1:33:25]	One night, flying back from a raid, I saw an amazing sight.	一天晚上 我从一次袭击中返航 看到了令人惊讶的一幕
[1:33:30]	Like a meteor. A V2 rocket headed to England.	一枚V2火箭 像流星一样飞向英格兰
[1:33:34]	I can’t help but imagine what it will be	我忍不住想象 如果这枚敌人的火箭携带原子弹头
[1:33:36]	for such an enemy rocket to carry an atomic warhead.	将会发生什么
[1:33:50]	Let’s make sure we’re not the ones to make that possible.	我们将确保不是我们让这一切成为可能
[1:33:58]	Oppie, I don’t think you want to go up against Strauss.	奥比 我觉得你不该和施特劳斯较劲
[1:34:01]	If we both speak, they listen to me.	如果大家都表态 他们就会听我的
[1:34:04]	When you speak, they hear a prophet. When Strauss speaks, they hear themselves.	你说话时 他们听到的是先知 施特劳斯说话时 他们听到的是自己
[1:34:08]	They’ll listen to a prophet.	他们会听先知的话
[1:34:10]	A prophet can’t be wrong. Not once.	先知不会错 一次也不会
[1:34:13]	Did you accuse Oppenheimer of sabotaging the development of the Super?	你有没有指控奥本海默破坏了氢弹的研发？
[1:34:17]	I was never one of those to bandy around terms like sabotage.	我从来不是那种喜欢搞阴谋诡计的人
[1:34:21]	-But Mr. Borden was? -As I understand it, possibly.	-但博登先生是？ -据我所知 有可能
[1:34:25]	How was Mr. Borden able to put together such a detailed indictment?	博登先生是如何写出这么详细的起诉书的？
[1:34:29]	He was no longer a government employee, yet he appears to have had	他不再是政府雇员了 但他似乎
[1:34:31]	unlimited access to Dr. Oppenheimer’s file.	仍然可以访问奥本海默博士的档案
[1:34:34]	Might Mr. Nichols have given him access to the file?	尼科尔斯先生有没有可能给他看文件的权限？
[1:34:37]	Or someone else at the AEC?	还是原子能委员会的人？
[1:34:39]	That’s a very serious accusation, Senator.	这是非常严重的指控 参议员
[1:34:42]	Is it your intention to suggest	你是不是想说
[1:34:43]	that Dr. Oppenheimer is disloyal to the United States?	奥本海默博士对美国不忠？
[1:34:47]	I’ve always assumed, and still assume, that he’s loyal to the United States.	我始终认为 并且现在仍然认为他忠于美国
[1:34:52]	I believe this, and I shall believe it,	我相信 我也会一直相信
[1:34:53]	until I see very conclusive proof to the opposite.	除非我看到相反的确凿证据
[1:34:56]	Do you or do you not believe that Dr. Oppenheimer is a security risk?	你是否相信奥本海默博士存在安全风险？
[1:35:09]	If I may, look, when Hitler blew his brains out in that bunker,	容我说一句 希特勒在地堡里自爆以后
[1:35:12]	it is my humble opinion that there is no need	我个人认为没有必要
[1:35:15]	for that bomb to be seen anywhere except that test site.	除了那个试验场 原子弹在任何地方都不该使用
[1:35:18]	Well, we at least have to take a moment to think about	我觉得 我们至少得花点时间想想
[1:35:20]	whether the means justify the ends any longer because…	目的正义是否就意味着手段正义 因为……
[1:35:27]	Germany is about to surrender.	德国就要投降了
[1:35:31]	It’s no longer the enemy who are the greatest threat to mankind.	对人类最大的威胁不再是敌人
[1:35:35]	It’s our work.	而是我们的工作
[1:35:38]	Hitler’s dead. It’s true.	确实 希特勒死了
[1:35:43]	But the Japanese fight on.	但日本还在负隅顽抗
[1:35:45]	Their defeat seems assured.	看来他们必败无疑
[1:35:47]	Not if you’re a G.I. preparing to invade.	除非你准备派军队入侵
[1:35:50]	We can end this war.	我们可以结束这场战争
[1:35:52]	But how do we justify using this weapon on human beings?	但我们如何证明对人类使用这种武器是正当的呢？
[1:35:58]	We’re theorists. Yes?	我们是理论家 不是吗？
[1:36:03]	We imagine a future, and our imaginings horrify us.	我们想象未来 而我们的想象让我们感到恐惧
[1:36:08]	They won’t fear it until they understand it,	直到世人看见它 他们才会害怕它
[1:36:10]	and they won’t understand it until they’ve used it.	直到我们使用它 世人才会看见它
[1:36:13]	When the world learns the terrible secret of Los Alamos,	当全世界都知道洛斯阿拉莫斯可怕的秘密时
[1:36:17]	our work here will ensure a peace mankind has never seen.	我们在这里的工作将开启人类史上一个崭新的和平
[1:36:21]	A peace based on the kind of international cooperation	建立在国际合作基础上的和平
[1:36:24]	that Roosevelt always envisaged.	罗斯福总统一直梦寐以求的和平
[1:36:31]	-Progress? -Two years and a billion dollars’ worth.	-进展如何？ -两年 花了十亿美元
[1:36:35]	-Hard to put a price on it. -Not really, just add up the bills.	-很难用金钱来衡量 -不 只是把账单加起来
[1:36:38]	Rural free deliveries. 80 babies delivered the first year.	都快成野战孕妇营地了 第一年出生80个婴儿
[1:36:43]	This year we’ve had ten, a month.	今年我们一个月就有十个
[1:36:45]	Birth control is a little out of my jurisdiction, General.	节育有点超出我的能力范围啊 将军
[1:36:49]	-Clearly. -General.	-显而易见 -将军
[1:36:56]	Head down, everybody. Fuchs, head down.	大家低头 福克斯 低头
[1:37:06]	That’s the one!	就是这个！
[1:37:08]	Two viable bombs.	两枚可用的炸弹
[1:37:10]	I need a date.	给我个时间
[1:37:13]	September.	九月
[1:37:15]	July.	七月
[1:37:16]	That’s the sweet spot, gentlemen.	这次爆破完美 先生们
[1:37:18]	August.	八月
[1:37:20]	July.	七月
[1:37:22]	Tests in July.	七月份测试
[1:37:24]	But I need my brother.	但我需要我弟弟
[1:37:29]	Frank knows the desert. He’s left politics behind.	弗兰克了解沙漠 他早把政治抛在脑后了
[1:37:32]	He’s been working with Lawrence for two years now.	他已经和劳伦斯共事两年
[1:37:41]	What do we call the test?	这次测试叫什么？
[1:37:44]	“Batter my heart,	“敲打我心
[1:37:46]	“three-person’d God.”	“圣父、圣子、圣灵”
[1:37:48]	What?	什么？
[1:37:50]	Trinity.	三位一体
[1:37:59]	You insisted on bringing on your brother Frank, a known communist.	你坚持要带上你弟弟弗兰克 一个著名的共产党员
[1:38:03]	Former communist.	前共产党员
[1:38:05]	You brought a known former communist…	你让一个著名的前共产主义者 进入……
[1:38:07]	onto America’s most secret and important defense project.	美国最机密最重要的国防项目
[1:38:10]	I knew my brother could be trusted. Absolutely.	我知道我弟弟是可以信任的 绝对可以
[1:38:14]	And you thought your judgment was sound on who on the team could be trusted?	你觉得你对团队中谁可以信任的判断是正确的吗？
[1:38:18]	Fuchs, head down.	福克斯 低头
[1:38:19]	Okay. Everybody ready?	好了 都准备好了吗？
[1:38:30]	-I hope you learned something. -Yeah, we’ve learned we’re gonna need	-我希望你学到些东西 -是的 我们已经知道我们需要
[1:38:33]	to be a lot further away. -Well, figure it out, fast.	一个更远的地方 -好吧 快点想办法
[1:38:36]	We leave for Washington in the morning. We’re going to give him a date.	我们明早去华盛顿 我们要给他们个准信
[1:38:54]	You’re a long way from Chicago, Leo.	大老远从芝加哥来啊 利奥
[1:38:56]	If we don’t act now, they’re going to use this thing against Japan.	如果我们现在不行动 他们就会用这东西对付日本
[1:38:59]	We booked a meeting with Truman, but somebody killed it.	我们和杜鲁门预约见面 但被人取消了
[1:39:02]	You’re meeting the Secretary of War.	你要去见战争部长
[1:39:04]	Just because we’re building it, doesn’t mean we get to decide how it’s used.	就因为是我们制造的 并不意味着我们可以决定如何使用它
[1:39:09]	History will judge us, Robert.	历史将审评我们 罗伯特
[1:39:12]	In Chicago, we put together a petition.	在芝加哥 我们起草了一份请愿书
[1:39:15]	I’m not… I’m not getting into this.	我不……我不想参与这个
[1:39:21]	Just tell me your concerns, and I’ll relate them.	只要告诉我你的担忧 我会传达的
[1:39:23]	My concerns? Germany’s defeated.	我的担忧? 德国战败了
[1:39:26]	Japan’s not going to hold out alone.	日本独木难支
[1:39:28]	How could you know that? You got us into this.	你怎么知道? 是你把我们牵扯进来的
[1:39:30]	You and Einstein, with your letter to Roosevelt saying we could build a bomb.	你和爱因斯坦 还有你给罗斯福写信说我们可以制造原子弹
[1:39:33]	Against Germany.	那是对付德国
[1:39:35]	That’s not how weapons manufacture works, Szilard.	制造武器可不管这些 西拉德
[1:39:38]	Oppie, you have to help.	奥比 你得帮帮我
[1:39:39]	Fermi’s in the meeting. Lawrence is in the meeting.	费米参加会议 劳伦斯参加会议
[1:39:41]	They’re not you. You’re the great salesman of science.	他们不是你 你是伟大的科学推销员
[1:39:44]	You can convince anyone of anything.	你可以说服任何人相信任何事
[1:39:47]	Even yourself.	甚至是你自己
[1:39:49]	Excuse me.	不好意思
[1:39:52]	The firestorm in Tokyo killed 100,000 people, mostly civilians.	东京大火造成10万人死亡 其中大部分是平民
[1:39:58]	I worry about America when we do these things and no one protests.	当我们做这些事情时却没有人抗议 我开始担心美国
[1:40:01]	Pearl Harbor, and three years of brutal conflict in the Pacific,	珍珠港事件 以及三年来太平洋地区的残酷杀戮
[1:40:04]	buys a lot of latitude with the American public.	给了我们在美国公众心目中极大的自由
[1:40:07]	Enough to unleash the atomic bomb?	足以投掷原子弹吗？
[1:40:09]	Uh, the A-bomb might not cause as much damage as the Tokyo bombings.	原子弹造成的破坏可能没有轰炸东京那么严重
[1:40:13]	What are we estimating?	我们估计如何？
[1:40:14]	In a medium-sized city, uh…	在一个中等规模的城市 呃……
[1:40:17]	20,000 or 30,000 dead.	死亡两三万人
[1:40:19]	Yes, but don’t underestimate	是的 但是不可低估
[1:40:21]	the psychological impact of an atomic explosion.	原子弹爆炸的心理影响
[1:40:25]	A pillar of fire, 10,000 feet tall,	一个烈焰冲天的万丈火柱
[1:40:29]	deadly neutron effects for a mile,	一英里范围内致命的中子效应
[1:40:31]	in all directions, from one single device.	从一台装置向四面八方扩散
[1:40:35]	Dropped from a barely-noticed B-29, the atomic bomb will be…	从一架毫不起眼的B-29轰炸机上投下 原子弹将是……
[1:40:40]	a terrible revelation of divine power.	神圣力量的末日启示
[1:40:43]	If that’s true, it would be definitive.	如果你说的是真的 那就确凿无疑了
[1:40:46]	World War II would be over.	第二次世界大战就此结束
[1:40:48]	Our boys would come home.	我们的孩子将会回家
[1:40:50]	Military targets?	攻击目标呢？
[1:40:52]	But there aren’t any big enough.	如果没有足够大的城市
[1:40:54]	Perhaps a vital war plant,	也可以选一个重要的兵工厂
[1:40:57]	with workers housed nearby.	工人们住在附近
[1:41:00]	And we could issue a warning to reduce civilian casualties.	我们可以发出警告 减少平民伤亡
[1:41:03]	They’d send everything they have up against us,	他们会不惜一切代价对付我们
[1:41:05]	and I’d be up in that plane.	甚至打落每一架飞机
[1:41:07]	If we announce it, and it fails to go off,	如果我们宣布了 但没有成功
[1:41:10]	we’d scupper any chance of a Japanese surrender.	反而会激起日本战争的气焰
[1:41:13]	Is there no way to demonstrate a bomb to Japan to provoke surrender?	难道没有办法向日本展示原子弹来导致投降吗？
[1:41:18]	We intend to demonstrate it in the most unambiguous terms.	我们打算用最无可争辩的事实来宣布这一点
[1:41:21]	Twice.	两次
[1:41:22]	Once to show the weapon’s power,	一次为了展示武器的威力
[1:41:24]	and a second to show that we can keep doing this until they surrender.	第二次证明我们可以一直这么做直到他们投降
[1:41:28]	We have a list of 12 cities to choose from.	我们有12座城市可供选择
[1:41:31]	Sorry, 11.	对不起 11座
[1:41:33]	I’ve taken Kyoto off the list,	我已经把京都从名单上划掉了
[1:41:35]	due to its cultural significance to the Japanese people.	鉴于它对日本人民的文化意义
[1:41:39]	Also, my wife and I honeymooned there.	还有 我和我妻子在那里度蜜月
[1:41:41]	It’s a magnificent city.	这是一座美丽绝伦的城市
[1:41:47]	Let me make this simple for you, gentlemen.	让我把事情简单化 先生们
[1:41:48]	According to my intelligence, which I cannot share with you,	根据我不能告诉你们的情报
[1:41:51]	the Japanese people will not surrender,	日本人无论如何
[1:41:53]	under any circumstances,	不会投降
[1:41:55]	short of a successful and total invasion of the home islands.	除非能成功彻底地占领本岛
[1:41:59]	Many lives would be lost, American and Japanese.	许多人将失去生命 包括美国人和日本人
[1:42:02]	The use of the atomic bomb on Japanese cities will save lives.	在日本城市使用原子弹将拯救生命
[1:42:06]	If we retain moral advantage.	如果我们保持道德优势
[1:42:09]	-How so? -Well, if we use this weapon	-为什么这么说？ -一旦我们使用这个武器
[1:42:10]	without informing our allies, they’ll see it as a threat,	而不通知我们的盟友 他们会将其视为威胁
[1:42:13]	and we’ll be in an arms race.	我们就会陷入军备竞赛
[1:42:14]	How open can we be with the Soviets?	我们能对苏联人开诚布公吗？
[1:42:16]	Secrecy won’t stop the Soviets from becoming part of the atomic world.	保密不会阻止苏联加入原子俱乐部
[1:42:21]	-We’ve been told they have no uranium. -You’ve been misinformed.	-我们被告知他们没有铀 -你们被误导了
[1:42:24]	A Russian bomb is a matter of time.	俄国拥有原子弹只是时间问题
[1:42:26]	The program needs to continue at full pace after the war.	战后这个项目需要全速推进
[1:42:30]	Secretary Simpson, if I may,	辛普森部长 容我说一句
[1:42:32]	not all scientists on the project are in agreement.	并非所有参与该项目的科学家都意见一致
[1:42:36]	In fact, this might be a moment to consider other opinions.	事实上 现在可能是考虑其他意见的时候了
[1:42:39]	-If you talk to scientists… -The Manhattan Project has been plagued	-如果你和科学家谈谈…… -曼哈顿计划陷入困境
[1:42:42]	from the start by certain scientists of…	从某些科学家开始……
[1:42:45]	doubtful discretion, and uncertain loyalty.	他们有着令人怀疑的谨慎和摇摆不定的忠诚
[1:42:47]	One of ’em just tried to meet with the President.	其中一位刚刚试图与总统见面
[1:42:49]	Now, we need these men,	现在 我们需要这些人
[1:42:51]	but as soon as it’s practical,	但一旦实现了
[1:42:53]	we should sever any such scientists from the program.	我们应该把任何这样的科学家从这个项目中除名
[1:42:55]	Wouldn’t you agree, Doctor?	你同意吗 博士？
[1:42:58]	If a Russian bomb is inevitable,	如果俄国的原子弹不可避免
[1:43:00]	perhaps we should invite their top scientist to Trinity.	也许我们应该邀请他们的顶尖科学家来三一学院
[1:43:03]	President Truman has no intention of raising expectations	杜鲁门总统无意提高
[1:43:07]	that Stalin be included in the atomic project.	人们对斯大林参与原子项目的期望
[1:43:10]	Informing him of our breakthrough,	向他通报我们的突破
[1:43:11]	and presenting it as a means to win the war,	并以此作为赢得战争的手段
[1:43:13]	need not make unkeepable promises.	又不需要做出不可兑现的承诺
[1:43:15]	But, the Potsdam Peace Conference in July	不过 七月份的波茨坦和平会议
[1:43:17]	will be President Truman’s last chance to have that conversation.	将是杜鲁门总统进行这一对话的最后机会
[1:43:22]	Can you give us a working bomb by then?	你能在那之前给我们一颗可用的原子弹吗？
[1:43:25]	Absolutely.	绝对可以
[1:43:26]	We will test fire before the conference.	我们将赶在会议开始前进行测试
[1:43:33]	Ground zero. Observation posts	原爆点 观察哨
[1:43:35]	at 10,000 yards, north, south, and west.	一万英尺外 北边 南边 西边
[1:43:39]	-Where do we trigger from? -South, 10,000.	-我们从哪里引爆？ -南边 一万英尺
[1:43:42]	And base camp is ten miles south here.	大本营在这儿以南十英里处
[1:43:46]	And there’s a further observation post on that hill, 20 miles away.	20英里外的那座山上还有一个观察哨
[1:43:51]	What’s that, Frank? Trigger lines already went in.	那是什么 弗兰克? 引爆线已经就位了
[1:43:54]	The Air Force requested a line of lights for their B-29.	空军要求为他们的B-29飞机配备一排照明灯
[1:43:58]	What B-29? Our bomb’s on the tower.	什么B- 29? 我们的炸弹在塔上
[1:44:00]	They want to use the test	他们想利用这次测试
[1:44:01]	to confirm a safe operating distance. -That’s risky.	确认安全操作距离 -太危险了
[1:44:04]	But not as risky as dropping one over Japan,	总比不上在日本上空空投那么危险
[1:44:06]	and hoping that we were right about the blast radius.	希望我们对爆炸半径的判断是正确的
[1:44:08]	Don’t let ’em slow us down, we’re firing on the 15th.	别让他们拖慢我们的进度 我们将在15号测试
[1:44:10]	-The 15th? That’s not… -The 15th.	-15号? 那不是…… -15号
[1:44:14]	15th.	15号
[1:44:17]	So I’ll be here at South Observation Point	我会守在南观察站
[1:44:19]	with Frank and Kistiakowsky.	与弗兰克和基斯佳科夫斯基一起
[1:44:21]	You’ll all be assigned to Base Camp,	你们都会安排到大本营
[1:44:24]	West Observation, or Far Observation.	西观测站 或称远观测点
[1:44:36]	Hey, whoa, whoa! Careful with that knife.	嘿 哇 小心那把刀
[1:44:42]	Are those safe distances?	这些距离安全吗？
[1:44:44]	They’re based on your calculations.	它们是根据你的计算得出的
[1:44:46]	Time to stand behind your science, Hans. Literally.	是时候支持你的科学了 汉斯 真心的
[1:45:18]	What about the radiation cloud?	辐射云怎样？
[1:45:20]	Without high winds, it should settle within 2-3 miles.	如果没有强风 它应该会散落在2-3英里范围内
[1:45:23]	Evacuation measures are in place.	疏散措施已就位
[1:45:25]	But we need good weather for visibility, so it has to be fine.	但是我们需要好的天气来提高能见度 所以必须是晴天
[1:45:30]	Everybody out!	所有人都出去！
[1:45:41]	We go on the night of the 15th. It’s a hard deadline.	我们在15号晚上行动 剩下时间不多
[1:45:44]	So if anyone has anything, speak now.	所以如果有人有什么事 请现在就说
[1:45:49]	Okay, stop, stop! Everybody, mattresses.	好了 停下 停下! 所有人注意 上床垫
[1:45:51]	Put the mattress there, underneath.	把床垫辅在下面
[1:46:10]	We could use a final implosion test.	我们可以进行最后的内爆测试
[1:46:15]	-It couldn’t hurt. -Do it.	-又没什么坏处 -干吧
[1:46:19]	Is there anything else that might stop us?	还有什么能阻止我们吗？
[1:46:56]	It’s happening, isn’t it?	开始了 是吗？
[1:46:59]	I’ll send a message.	我会发信息
[1:47:02]	If it’s gone our way:	如果事情顺利
[1:47:05]	“Take in the sheets.”	“把床单收起来”
[1:47:10]	Robert.	罗伯特
[1:47:14]	Break a leg.	祝你成功
[1:47:28]	Look.	看
[1:48:22]	Oppie’s taken a very modest three kilotons.	奥比投注三千吨当量 非常稳健
[1:48:25]	-20！ -Teller’s view is 45. -20!	-泰勒预测4万5千吨
[1:48:27]	20,000 tons of TNT.	有人押2万吨TNT当量
[1:48:30]	And does anyone want the side action on atmospheric ignition?	没人想赌点燃大气层的副作用吗？
[1:48:35]	Are you saying we’ll have to delay?	你是说我们必须推迟吗？
[1:48:37]	I’m saying it would be prudent.	我是说这样做比较稳妥
[1:48:39]	This weather, has it reached the site?	这种天气 已经到达现场了吗？
[1:48:46]	Bethe is calling to tell you the implosion test failed.	贝斯打电话来告诉你内爆测试失败了
[1:48:48]	Hello, Hans? Yes, he’s here.	喂 汉斯? 是的 他在这里
[1:48:52]	Yes.	是的
[1:48:55]	Is he wrong?	他错了吗？
[1:48:57]	-No. -No?	-没有 -没有？
[1:48:58]	No.	没有
[1:49:00]	So we’re about to fire a dud?	这枚炸弹很可能会是一枚哑弹？
[1:49:02]	-No. -Explain!	-不 -解释一下！
[1:49:03]	Well, I can’t. I just, I…	嗯 我不能 我只是 我……
[1:49:05]	I just know, I know the implosion lenses will work.	我只知道 我知道内爆会成功的
[1:49:07]	If we fire these detonators and they don’t trigger a reaction,	如果我们发射这些引爆器而它们没有引发反应
[1:49:10]	two years’ worth of plutonium will be scattered across White Sands.	两年生产的钚会散落在白沙上
[1:49:13]	A month of my salary against ten bucks says it lights.	我用一个月的工资 和你赌十块钱 内爆能成功
[1:49:17]	Oh, Jesus!	哦 上帝！
[1:49:25]	The wind’s pickin’ up at zero, not the rain. Lightning’s circling.	原暴点有风 没有雨 电闪雷鸣
[1:49:29]	Think it might be time to tell your men to get away	我想是时候让你的人离开了
[1:49:31]	from the steel tower with the atomic bomb?	带着原子弹从钢铁塔里落荒而逃？
[1:49:37]	Let’s get to South Observation.	我们去南观察站
[1:49:38]	Pull ’em out, and we can make our determination there.	豁出来 我们能在那里下定决心
[1:49:47]	The team hasn’t slept in two nights!	团队已经两夜没合眼了！
[1:49:49]	If we stand down and make the bomb safe, we won’t be back here for weeks!	如果我们停止 确保炸弹安全 我们几个星期都回不来！
[1:49:52]	And we’ll miss Potsdam!	我们会错过波茨坦的！
[1:49:54]	I gotta get word to Truman by seven, our window’s closing.	我必须在七点前通知杜鲁门 留给我们的时间不多了
[1:49:57]	-What is this doing? -Raining, blowing, lightning.	-现在情况怎样？ -暴雨 狂风 闪电
[1:49:59]	-For how long, damnit? -Holdin’ strong!	-还要多久 该死？ -坚持住！
[1:50:02]	It’ll break before dawn.	天亮前会好的
[1:50:03]	-How could you know that? -I know this desert.	-你怎么知道？ -我了解这片沙漠
[1:50:05]	Storm cools overnight. Just before dawn, storm breaks.	暴风雨持续一整夜 当黎明到来 就会转晴
[1:50:08]	You could be right,	你可能是对的
[1:50:09]	but schedule as late as possible. -Five-thirty.	但要尽可能安排晚一些 -五点半
[1:50:12]	Sign your forecast. If you’re wrong, I’ll hang you.	同意你的预报 如果你错了 我就绞死你
[1:50:14]	-Tell ’em all. Five-thirty. -Five-thirty, five-thirty!	-告诉大家 五点半 -五点半 五点半！
[1:50:20]	Three years, 4,000 people, two billion dollars.	三年 四千人 二十亿美元
[1:50:25]	Well, if it doesn’t go off,	如果没有爆炸
[1:50:28]	we’re both finished.	我们就完犊子了
[1:50:32]	I’m betting on three kilotons.	我赌三千吨当量
[1:50:35]	Anything less, they won’t get what it is.	做不到这一点 他们就不会明白它是什么
[1:50:37]	Now, what did Fermi mean by, uh, atmospheric ignition?	费米所说的点燃大气层是什么意思？
[1:50:41]	Well, we had a moment where it looked like the chain reaction	嗯 有那么一阵子 我们以为连锁反应似乎
[1:50:43]	from an atomic device might never stop.	永远也不会停止
[1:50:47]	Setting fire to the atmosphere.	燃烧了整个大气层
[1:50:49]	Why’s Fermi still taking side bets on it?	为什么费米要拿这来赌？
[1:50:52]	Call it gallows humor.	这叫黑色幽默
[1:50:57]	Wait, are we saying there’s a chance that when we push that button,	等等 你是说当我们按下那个按钮
[1:51:02]	we destroy the world?	我们可能会毁灭整个世界？
[1:51:03]	Nothing in our research over three years supports that conclusion,	我们三年来的研究都不支持这个结论
[1:51:07]	except as the most remote possibility.	可能性微乎其乎
[1:51:10]	-How remote? -Chances are near-zero.	-有多小？ -可能性几乎为零
[1:51:14]	Near-zero?	几乎为零？
[1:51:16]	What do you want from theory alone?	这是理论 你还想怎样？
[1:51:20]	Zero would be nice.	最好是零
[1:51:26]	In exactly one hour…	正好一小时……
[1:51:29]	and 58 minutes, we’ll know.	58分钟后 就见分晓了
[1:51:39]	It’s letting up.	转睛了
[1:51:53]	The arming party’s left zero, they’re heading this way.	武装部队已经撤离 他们朝这边来了
[1:51:55]	Throw on your switches.	打开开关
[1:51:56]	Turn the cars! Ready for emergency evacuation.	掉头 准备紧急疏散
[1:52:17]	…welder’s glass. Everybody take their places.	……拿上焊工玻璃 大家各就各位
[1:52:21]	Everybody take a welder’s glass!	每个人拿一块焊工玻璃！
[1:52:24]	Everybody take a welder’s glass!	每个人拿一块焊工玻璃！
[1:53:18]	20 minutes.	20分钟
[1:53:23]	20 minutes!	20分钟！
[1:53:35]	That’s 20!	还有20分钟！
[1:53:40]	On the leg, please.	请放腿上
[1:53:43]	-Feynman? -No.	-费曼？ -不
[1:53:45]	The glass stops the UV.	玻璃可以阻挡紫外线
[1:53:48]	What stops the glass?	那什么阻挡玻璃？
[1:53:51]	I’m heading to base camp.	我要去大本营
[1:53:52]	Best of luck.	祝你好运
[1:53:54]	Robert?	罗伯特？
[1:53:57]	Try not to blow up the world.	尽量不要炸毁世界
[1:54:10]	Watch that needle. If the detonators don’t charge,	小心指针 如果雷管不充电
[1:54:13]	and the voltage drops below one volt,	电压降到一伏以下
[1:54:15]	you hit that button, you abort. Understood?	你就按下那个按钮 中止行动 明白吗？
[1:54:18]	Understood.	明白
[1:54:26]	Two minutes to detonation.	距离爆炸还有2分钟
[1:54:29]	Everybody down!	所有人都趴下！
[1:54:31]	Do not turn around until you see light reflected on the hills.	在看到山上的反射光前 不要转身
[1:54:35]	Then look at the explosion only through your welder’s glass.	只能透过焊工玻璃看爆炸
[1:54:38]	90 seconds to detonation.	距离爆炸还有90秒
[1:54:42]	80 seconds to detonation.	距离爆炸还有80秒
[1:54:45]	Is it rubbed in?	抹够了吗？
[1:54:47]	Yeah.	够了
[1:54:55]	60 seconds to detonation.	距离爆炸还有60秒
[1:55:13]	These things are hard on your heart.	等待才是最可怕的事情
[1:55:15]	30 seconds.	30秒
[1:55:22]	Detonators charged!	雷管充电完毕！
[1:55:33]	17	17.
[1:55:35]	16	16.
[1:55:36]	15	15.
[1:55:38]	14	14.
[1:55:40]	13	13.
[1:55:42]	12	12.
[1:55:43]	11	11.
[1:55:45]	Ten.	十
[1:55:47]	Nine.	九
[1:55:49]	Eight.	八
[1:55:52]	Seven.	七
[1:55:54]	Six.	六
[1:55:57]	Five.	五
[1:56:00]	Four.	四
[1:56:02]	Three.	三
[1:56:05]	Two.	二
[1:56:07]	One.	一
[1:57:41]	“And now I am become Death…	“现在我成了死神……
[1:57:46]	“the destroyer of worlds.”	“世界的毁灭者”
[1:58:21]	It worked.	成功了
[1:58:58]	You owe me ten dollars!	你欠我十块钱！
[1:59:02]	-Come on! -I… I’m good for it, Kisti.	-快点！ -我……认赌服输 科斯基
[1:59:05]	You are!	你输了！
[1:59:07]	Yes, you are!	是的 你输了！
[1:59:46]	Get me Potsdam right away.	马上给我接波茨坦
[1:59:59]	Get a message to Kitty.	给凯蒂带个口信
[2:00:01]	-We can’t say anything. -Tell her to take in the sheets.	-我们什么也不能说 -叫她把床单收起来
[2:00:19]	-Hello? -Hi, Kitty?	-喂？ -嗨 凯蒂？
[2:00:21]	What? What? Charlotte? Charlotte, go ahead. Go ahead.	什么? 什么? 夏洛特? 夏洛特 继续 继续
[2:00:24]	Oh, um, well, I don’t know,	噢 嗯 好的 我不知道
[2:00:26]	he just said to tell you to bring in the sheets.	他只是让你把床单收起来
[2:00:31]	Kitty?	凯蒂？
[2:00:34]	Kitty? Kitty, are you still there?	凯蒂? 凯蒂 你还在吗？
[2:00:44]	If they detonate it too high in the air, the blast won’t be as powerful.	如果引爆的位置太高 爆炸的威力就会减弱
[2:00:47]	With respect, Dr. Oppenheimer, we’ll take it from here.	恕我直言 奥本海默博士 接下来交给我们吧
[2:01:01]	Did Truman brief Stalin at Potsdam?	杜鲁门在波茨坦向斯大林通报了吗？
[2:01:04]	“Brief” would be an overstatement.	说“通报”有点夸张
[2:01:07]	He referred to a powerful new weapon.	他提到了一种强大的新式武器
[2:01:11]	Stalin… hoped we’d use it against Japan.	斯大林……希望我们用它来对付日本
[2:01:17]	That’s it?	就这样？
[2:01:19]	Robert, we’ve given them an ace. It’s for them to play the hand.	罗伯特 我们给了他们一张王牌 随他们玩
[2:01:24]	You’re aiming for the sixth?	你的目标是六号？
[2:01:27]	It’s up to the CO in the Pacific.	这取决于太平洋战区的指挥官
[2:01:30]	Should I come with you to Washington?	我应该和你一起去华盛顿吗？
[2:01:34]	What for?	做什么？
[2:01:37]	Well, you keep me informed.	有消息随时通知我
[2:01:40]	Of course.	当然
[2:01:43]	As best I can.	尽我所能
[2:02:03]	Would the Japanese surrender if they knew what was coming?	如果日本人知道即将发生的事 他们会投降吗？
[2:02:07]	I don’t know.	我不知道
[2:02:11]	Have you seen Szilard’s petition?	你看过西拉德的请愿书吗？
[2:02:13]	How the hell does Szilard know about the Japanese?	西拉德怎么会了解日本人？
[2:02:15]	You’re not signing it, are you?	你不会签吧？
[2:02:18]	Many people have. A lot of people.	很多人都签了 很多人
[2:02:20]	Edward…	爱德华……
[2:02:23]	the fact that we built this bomb does not give us any more,	我们造了这个炸弹并不能给我们比其他人更多的信息
[2:02:25]	any more right or responsibility	更多的权利和责任
[2:02:27]	to decide how it’s used than anyone else.	来决定如何使用它
[2:02:30]	But we’re the only people who know about it.	但我们是唯一知道这件事的人
[2:02:32]	I’ve told Stimson the various opinions of the community.	我已经告诉史汀生 社区有各种意见
[2:02:35]	But what’s your opinion?	但你的意见呢？
[2:02:38]	Once it’s used…	一旦使用……
[2:02:40]	nuclear war, perhaps…	也许 就是核战争……
[2:02:43]	all war…	所有战争……
[2:02:45]	becomes unthinkable.	变得难以想象
[2:02:47]	Until somebody builds a bigger one.	直到有人造出一个更大的炸弹
[2:03:10]	I thought they would call.	我以为他们会打电话来
[2:03:12]	It’s only the fifth.	今天才5号
[2:03:16]	In Japan, it’s the sixth.	在日本 现在6号了
[2:03:31]	Charlotte?	夏洛特？
[2:03:34]	Try Groves.	试试格罗夫斯
[2:03:37]	Anything?	没有吗？
[2:03:40]	-Charlotte? -Truman’s on the radio.	-夏洛特？ -杜鲁门在广播
[2:03:44]	16 hours ago,	16小时前
[2:03:47]	an American airplane	一架美国飞机
[2:03:49]	dropped one bomb on Hiroshima,	在广岛投下了一颗炸弹
[2:03:54]	and destroyed its usefulness to the enemy.	彻底摧毁了敌人
[2:03:59]	The bomb has more power	炸弹威力巨大
[2:04:02]	than 20,000 tons of TNT.	超过2万吨TNT炸药
[2:04:07]	It is an atomic bomb.	这是一颗原子弹
[2:04:12]	It is a harnessing of the basic power of the universe.	它是对宇宙基本力量的驾驭
[2:04:19]	Groves on one.	格罗夫斯在一号线
[2:04:26]	General?	将军？
[2:04:27]	I’m very proud of you, and all of your people.	我为你和你的团队感到骄傲
[2:04:30]	It went alright?	一切顺利吗？
[2:04:32]	Apparently it went with a tremendous bang.	当然 并且伴随着一声巨响
[2:04:35]	Well, everyone here is feeling reasonably good about it.	嗯 这里的每个人都对此感觉良好
[2:04:41]	It’s been a long road.	这是一条漫长的道路
[2:04:42]	I think one of the wisest things I ever did	我觉得我做过最明智的事
[2:04:45]	was when I selected the director of Los Alamos.	就是选择你作洛斯阿拉莫斯的主管
[2:04:51]	We have spent more than two billion dollars	我们已经花费了超过20亿美元
[2:04:55]	on the greatest scientific gamble in history,	历史上最伟大的科学赌博
[2:04:59]	and we have won.	我们赢了
[2:05:06]	Oppie! Oppie! Oppie!	奥比! 奥比! 奥比！
[2:06:29]	The world…	全世界……
[2:06:32]	will remember this day.	会永远记住这一天
[2:06:52]	It’s too soon to…	现在还太早……
[2:06:55]	It’s too soon to determine	现在下结论还为时过早
[2:06:57]	what the results of the bombing are.	爆炸的结果是什么
[2:07:02]	But I’ll bet the Japanese didn’t like it.	但我打赌日本人肯定不喜欢
[2:07:24]	I’m so proud.	我很自豪
[2:07:27]	So proud of what you have accomplished.	为你们的成就感到骄傲
[2:07:37]	I just wish we had it in time to use against the Germans.	我只是希望我们能及时用它来对付德国人
[2:09:29]	Dr. Oppenheimer?	奥本海默博士？
[2:09:31]	Dr. Oppenheimer?	奥本海默博士？
[2:09:34]	Nice picture.	照片很帅
[2:09:36]	President Truman will see you now.	杜鲁门总统可以见你了
[2:09:52]	Dr. Oppenheimer, it’s an honor.	奥本海默博士 很荣幸见到你
[2:09:54]	-Mr. President. -Please.	-总统先生 -请坐
[2:09:56]	Thank you.	谢谢
[2:09:58]	Secretary Byrnes.	伯恩斯部长
[2:10:02]	How’s it feel to be the most famous man in the world?	成为世界上最著名的人感觉如何？
[2:10:06]	You helped save a lot of American lives.	你帮助拯救了很多美国人的生命
[2:10:09]	-What we did at Hiroshima was… -And Nagasaki.	-我们在广岛所做的…… -还有长崎
[2:10:14]	Obviously.	很明显
[2:10:16]	Your invention let us bring our boys home.	你的发明让我们把孩子们带回了家
[2:10:20]	Well, it was hardly… my invention.	这算不上……我的发明
[2:10:23]	It was you on the cover of Time.	登上《时代》杂志封面的人是你
[2:10:28]	Jim tells me you’re concerned about an arms race with the Soviets.	吉姆告诉我你担心和苏联的军备竞赛
[2:10:32]	Ah, yes, ah…	啊 对 啊……
[2:10:34]	Well, um…	好吧 嗯……
[2:10:36]	it’s that, uh, now is our chance to secure…	现在是我们确保……
[2:10:41]	international cooperation on atomic energy,	和国际原子能合作的机会
[2:10:44]	and-and-and I’m concerned…	我很担心
[2:10:46]	Do you know when the Soviets are gonna have the bomb?	你知道苏联什么时候会拥有原子弹吗？
[2:10:50]	I don’t think I could give a…	我不认为我可以给……
[2:10:51]	Never!	绝不！
[2:10:53]	Never.	绝不
[2:10:55]	Mr. President, the Russians have good physicists,	总统先生 俄国有优秀的物理学家
[2:10:58]	and, and abundant resources… -Abundant?	还有丰富的资源…… -丰富？
[2:11:01]	Yes.	是的
[2:11:03]	I don’t think so.	我不这么认为
[2:11:05]	Well, they’ll put everything they have in…	嗯 他们会倾其所有……
[2:11:12]	I hear you’re leaving Los Alamos.	我听说你要离开洛斯阿拉莫斯
[2:11:17]	What should we do with it?	我们该拿它怎么办？
[2:11:19]	Give it back to the Indians.	还给印第安人
[2:11:28]	Um, Dr. Oppenheimer…	奥本海默博士
[2:11:32]	if what you say about the Soviets is true,	如果你说的关于苏联的事是真的
[2:11:35]	we have to build up Los Alamos, not shut it down.	我们就必须扩建洛斯阿拉莫斯 而不是关闭它
[2:11:42]	Mr. President…	总统先生……
[2:11:45]	Umm…	嗯……
[2:11:50]	I feel that I have blood on my hands.	我觉得我的双手沾满了鲜血
[2:12:13]	You think anyone in Hiroshima, or…	你认为那些在广岛 或者……
[2:12:17]	Nagasaki, gives a shit who built the bomb?	长崎的人 关心是谁造的炸弹吗？
[2:12:25]	They care who dropped it.	他们只在乎是谁扔的
[2:12:28]	I did.	我干的
[2:12:32]	Hiroshima isn’t about you.	广岛不是你的问题
[2:12:40]	Dr. Oppenheimer.	奥本海默博士
[2:12:53]	Don’t let that crybaby back in here!	别让我再在这里看见那个爱哭鬼！
[2:13:01]	Robert saw that hand-wringing got him nowhere.	罗伯特发现 他的悲天悯人毫无结果
[2:13:05]	By the time I met him, he’d fully embraced	我遇见他的时候 他已经完全接受了
[2:13:07]	his “Father of the Bomb” reputation.	“原子弹之父”的名声
[2:13:10]	And used his profile to influence policy.	并利用他的公众形象影响政策
[2:13:22]	Doctor, in the years following the war,	博士 战后这么多年来
[2:13:23]	would you say that you exerted a great influence	你是否认为你对美国的
[2:13:26]	on the atomic policies of the USA?	原子能政策影响深远？
[2:13:28]	I think “great” would be an overstatement.	我觉得“深远”这个词有些夸张
[2:13:30]	Really? I mean, look at the issue of isotopes.	真的吗? 我的意思是 看看同位素问题
[2:13:32]	Were you not personally responsible for destroying all opposition to their export?	难道你没有亲自摧毁所有反对出口同位素的人吗？
[2:13:36]	…could use a bottle of beer	……可以用一瓶啤酒
[2:13:38]	in making atomic weapons. In fact, you do.	用来制造核武器 事实上 你做得到
[2:13:41]	I was the spokesman, but the opinion among scientists was unanimous.	我是发言人 但科学家们的意见是一致的
[2:13:45]	All along, with McCarthy on the rise, he knew he was vulnerable.	一直以来 随着麦卡锡的崛起 他知道自己很脆弱
[2:13:49]	His brother was blacklisted by every university in the country.	他弟弟被全国所有大学列入黑名单
[2:13:54]	Lomanitz wound up working the railroad, laying track.	洛马尼茨最后在铁路上工作 铺铁轨
[2:13:59]	Chevalier went into exile.	舍瓦利耶流放国外
[2:14:03]	But none of that stopped Robert	但这些都没能阻止罗伯特
[2:14:06]	from pushing the GAC to recommend arms control,	推动政府咨询委员会建议进行军备控制
[2:14:08]	instead of the H-Bomb.	而不是研发氢弹
[2:14:12]	He was devastated when Truman rejected their recommendation.	当杜鲁门拒绝他们的建议时 他伤心欲绝
[2:14:17]	I miss Richard more than I can bear.	我无法承受对理查德的思念
[2:14:19]	I know, Ruth. I know.	我知道 鲁丝 我知道
[2:14:21]	I’m just glad he didn’t live to see where this has all gone.	我很高兴他没有活着看到这一切变成什么样了
[2:14:27]	Here comes the birthday boy, to gloat…	小寿星来了 幸灾乐祸……
[2:14:30]	Have fun.	玩得开心
[2:14:33]	Robert, my son and his fiancée	罗伯特 小儿和他的未婚妻
[2:14:35]	are desperate to meet the father of the atomic bomb, so…	非常期待想见到原子弹之父 于是……
[2:14:37]	Hello.	你好
[2:14:46]	Is this a bad time?	我来的不是时候吗？
[2:14:48]	What do you think, Lewis?	你觉得呢 刘易斯？
[2:14:50]	Well, I think it must have been a blow for you.	我想这对你一定是个打击
[2:14:52]	For the world.	为了这个世界
[2:14:55]	The world? What does Fuchs mean to the rest of the world?	世界? 福克斯对世界其他地方意味着什么？
[2:14:59]	Fuchs?	福克斯？
[2:15:01]	Klaus Fuchs?	克劳斯·福克斯？
[2:15:04]	Oh dear. You haven’t heard.	噢 亲爱的 你还没听说
[2:15:09]	Klaus Fuchs, the British scientist	克劳斯·福克斯 英国科学家
[2:15:11]	that you put onto the implosion team at Los Alamos.	你把他安排入洛斯阿拉莫斯的内爆小组
[2:15:15]	Turns out he was…	其实他是……
[2:15:17]	He was spying for the Soviets the whole time.	他一直在为苏联从事间谍活动
[2:15:20]	I’m sorry.	对不起
[2:15:27]	After the truth about Fuchs came out,	福克斯的真相曝光后
[2:15:29]	the FBI stepped up surveillance on him.	联邦调查局加强了对他的监视
[2:15:32]	He knew his phone was tapped.	他知道他的电话被监听
[2:15:34]	He was followed everywhere.	他走到哪儿都被跟踪
[2:15:36]	His trash picked through.	他的垃圾被取走
[2:15:42]	But he never stopped speaking his mind.	但他从未停止说出自己的想法
[2:15:44]	A man of conviction.	一个有信念的人
[2:15:46]	And maybe he thought fame could actually protect him.	也许他觉得名声可以保护他
[2:15:51]	When Eisenhower took office, he saw one more chance.	艾森豪威尔上任后 他看到机会来了
[2:15:56]	He took it.	他抓住时机
[2:15:57]	America and Russia may be likened…	美国和俄国可以比作……
[2:16:01]	to two scorpions in a bottle.	一只瓶子里的两只蝎子
[2:16:03]	Each capable of killing the other,	每个人都有能力杀死对方
[2:16:07]	but only at the risk of his own life.	但都要以自己的生命为代价
[2:16:10]	Now, there are various aspects of this policy…	现在 这项政策有很多方面……
[2:16:12]	A lot of scientists blame me, but how was I supposed to protect him?	很多科学家都责怪我 但我该如何保护他呢？
[2:16:17]	…are too secret for discussion.	……太过机密 无法讨论
[2:16:19]	Candor is the only remedy.	坦诚是唯一的补救办法
[2:16:21]	Officials in Washington need to start leveling with the American people.	华盛顿官员需要开始对美国人民讲真话
[2:16:26]	That was the last straw for Robert’s enemies.	这是敌人压垮罗伯特的最后一根稻草
[2:16:29]	So he had to lose his security clearance.	所以他不得不失去安全许可
[2:16:31]	And with it, his credibility.	还有他的信誉
[2:16:34]	But how could they do it?	但他们怎么做到的呢？
[2:16:36]	He was a war hero.	他是一名战争英雄
[2:16:38]	He’d already told everyone about his past.	他已经把自己的过去告诉了所有人
[2:16:40]	Borden dredged it all up.	博登把这些都挖出来了
[2:16:42]	How could Borden get access to Oppenheimer’s FBI file?	博登怎么可能拿到奥本海默的联邦调查局档案？
[2:16:45]	Could it have been Nichols?	会不会是尼科尔斯？
[2:16:46]	No, I can’t imagine he’d do that.	不 我无法想象他会这么做
[2:16:49]	Whoever did unleashed a firestorm that burned a path in the White House,	不管是谁干的都引发了一场大火 在白宫烧出了一条路
[2:16:53]	right to my desk at the AEC.	一直烧到我原子能委员会的办公桌上
[2:16:56]	You seen ’em in there, right?	你在那里见过他们 对吧？
[2:16:58]	I’ve worked my whole life to get here.	我花了一生的时间才到这里
[2:17:01]	The cabinet of the United States of America,	进入美国内阁
[2:17:03]	and now, in front of the entire country,	现在 在全国人民面前
[2:17:05]	they want to put me back in my place.	他们想把我打回原形
[2:17:09]	A lowly shoe salesman.	一个卑微的鞋子销售员
[2:17:11]	Lewis, we can win this thing.	刘易斯 我们能赢的
[2:17:13]	I think we can get the Senate to grasp	我想我们可以让参议院明白
[2:17:15]	that you did your duty, painful though it was.	你尽了你的职责 虽然很痛苦
[2:17:18]	-Now, will Hill’s testimony back us up? -Hill will be fine.	-现在 希尔的证词能支持我们吗？ -希尔会没事的
[2:17:21]	I don’t really know him, but he was one of Szilard’s boys in Chicago.	我不太认识他 但他是西拉德在芝加哥的信徒
[2:17:24]	And they’d never forgave Robert for not	他们永远不会原谅罗伯特
[2:17:26]	supporting the petition against bombing Japan.	没有支持反对轰炸日本的请愿书
[2:17:30]	This was taken 31 days after the bombing.	这是爆炸发生31天后拍摄的
[2:17:34]	Virtually everyone in the streets, for nearly a mile around,	事实上 方圆近一英里街道上的每个人
[2:17:39]	was instantly and seriously…	都迅速和彻底的……
[2:17:41]	burned.	被烧死
[2:17:43]	The Japanese spoke of people who	日本人后来把这些皮肤被烧成
[2:17:47]	wore striped clothing, upon whom the skin was burned in stripes.	一条条的条纹状的人，称之为穿条纹衣服的人
[2:17:52]	There were many who thought themselves lucky,	有很多人认为自己很幸运
[2:17:55]	who climbed out of the ruins of their homes,	他们从家园的废墟中爬出来
[2:17:57]	only slightly injured.	只是受了点轻伤
[2:18:00]	But they died anyway.	但他们还是死了
[2:18:03]	They died days, or weeks later,	他们几天或几周后陆续死去
[2:18:06]	from iridium-like rays emitted in great numbers	死于在爆炸发生的一瞬间
[2:18:09]	at the moment of the explosion.	大量放射的类铱射线
[2:18:13]	Did you read this crap in the papers?	你读过报纸上的那些垃圾了吗？
[2:18:15]	A British physicist is saying	一位英国物理学家说
[2:18:16]	the atomic bombings were not the last act of World War II,	原子弹爆炸不是第二次世界大战的最后一幕
[2:18:19]	but the first act of this cold war with Russia.	而是与俄国冷战的第一幕
[2:18:23]	Which physicist?	哪位物理学家？
[2:18:24]	I think you knew him. Patrick Blackett.	我想你认识他 帕特里克·布莱克特
[2:18:30]	He may not be wrong. Stimson is now telling me	他可能没错 史汀生最近告诉我
[2:18:33]	we bombed an enemy that was essentially defeated.	我们轰炸了一个基本上被打败的敌人
[2:18:36]	Robert, you’ve all the influence now.	罗伯特 你现在拥有强大的影响力
[2:18:39]	Please,	求你了
[2:18:41]	urge them to continue my research on the Super.	敦促他们让我继续研究氢弹
[2:18:43]	I neither can nor will, Edward.	我不能也不愿意 爱德华
[2:18:45]	Why not?	为什么？
[2:18:47]	It’s not the right use of our resources.	这不是对我们资源的正确使用
[2:18:49]	Is that what you really believe?	你真的这么想吗？
[2:18:51]	J. Robert Oppenheimer? Sphinx-like guru of the atom?	J·罗伯特·奥本海默? 狮身人面像般的原子大师？
[2:18:57]	Nobody knows what you believe.	没有人知道你信仰什么
[2:18:59]	Do you? Hmm?	你自己知道吗？ 嗯？
[2:19:02]	One final time, our program director, Dr. J. Robert Oppenheimer.	最后 有请我们的项目主管罗伯特·奥本海默博士
[2:19:08]	I hope that in years to come,	我希望在未来的岁月里
[2:19:10]	you will look back on your work here with pride.	当你回顾自己在这里的工作时 会感到自豪
[2:19:13]	But today, that pride must be tempered with a profound concern.	虽然今天 这种自豪感必然被一种深深的忧虑所笼罩
[2:19:19]	If atomic weapons are to be added to the arsenals of a warring world,	如果要把原子武器加入交战世界的武器库中
[2:19:24]	then the day will come when people will curse the name of Los Alamos.	那么总有一天人们会诅咒洛斯阿拉莫斯这个名字
[2:19:33]	Uh, sorry, Admiral.	呃 抱歉 将军
[2:19:35]	Stopped off to get this.	中间出去拿来这个
[2:19:37]	Seems pretty favorable.	看起来很有利
[2:19:39]	There’s Oppenheimer. What’s the caption?	那是奥本海默 标题是什么？
[2:19:42]	Uh, “J. Robert Oppenheimer. Strauss fought him…	呃 “J·罗伯特·奥本海默大战施特劳斯……
[2:19:47]	“and the US won.”	“美国赢了”
[2:19:49]	That’ll work.	这就行
[2:19:51]	Those were your words from the other day.	这是你那天说的话
[2:19:53]	We needed to pivot.	我们需要转向
[2:19:54]	But how would you know what Time Magazine was gonna write?	但你怎么知道《时代》杂志会写什么？
[2:19:57]	Henry Luce is a friend.	亨利·卢斯是我的朋友
[2:20:07]	You sat here and let me tell you how it’s done,	你坐在这里 让我告诉你怎么做
[2:20:10]	but you’ve been far ahead all along.	但其实你一直操控全局
[2:20:12]	Survival in Washington.	想在华盛顿生存
[2:20:15]	It’s about knowing how to get things done.	就要知道如何把事情做好
[2:20:18]	Right.	没错
[2:20:21]	What was it you said about Borden?	你是怎么说博登的？
[2:20:23]	Why get caught holding the knife yourself?	借刀杀人 方为上策？
[2:20:27]	I’m beginning to think Borden was holding the knife for you.	我开始觉得博登是在帮你拿刀
[2:20:33]	It’s gonna come down to how much influence	这要看影响力有多大
[2:20:35]	Borden’s been able to exert on Teller.	博登能够对泰勒施加压力
[2:20:38]	Did I say something funny?	我说了什么好笑的话吗？
[2:20:39]	Just “Borden, Borden, Borden”, when we all know that it’s Strauss.	尽是“博登 博登 博登” 而我们都知道是施特劳斯
[2:20:44]	Lewis brought me to Princeton, Kitty.	刘易斯带我来的普林斯顿 凯蒂
[2:20:47]	And then you humiliated him in front of Congress.	然后你在国会面前羞辱了他
[2:20:49]	But more useful than a sandwich!	但比三明治强！
[2:20:55]	How’d I do?	我表现如何？
[2:20:57]	Maybe a little too well, Robert.	似乎有点过了 罗伯特
[2:20:59]	That was six years ago.	那是六年前的事了
[2:21:01]	You know, they’re truly vindictive, patient as saints.	你知道 他们真的很记仇 像圣人一样有耐心
[2:21:04]	Strauss has been perfectly clear that he is neutral.	施特劳斯已经非常清楚地表明他是中立的
[2:21:08]	Wake up! It is Strauss!	醒醒吧! 是施特劳斯！
[2:21:11]	It’s always been Strauss, and you know it!	一直都是施特劳斯 你知道的！
[2:21:14]	Why won’t you fight him?	你为什么不跟他战斗？
[2:21:19]	It wasn’t Nichols, or Hoover, or one of Truman’s guys.	不是尼科尔斯也不是胡佛 也不是杜鲁门的人
[2:21:22]	It was you.	是你
[2:21:24]	You gave the file to Borden.	你把文件给了博登
[2:21:25]	You set him on Oppenheimer.	你让他去举报奥本海默
[2:21:27]	-You convinced him… -Borden…	-你说服了他 -博登
[2:21:29]	didn’t take any convincing.	不费吹灰之力
[2:21:32]	Take your time, use the entire file.	慢慢来 把整个文件都用上
[2:21:34]	Write up your conclusions, send them to the FBI.	写下你的结论 发给联邦调查局
[2:21:36]	The material’s obviously extensive,	材料显然很广泛
[2:21:38]	but there’s nothing new here.	但这里没什么新鲜的
[2:21:41]	Your conclusions will be.	新鲜的是你的结论
[2:21:43]	And they’ll have to be answered.	他们必须得给回复
[2:21:45]	Hoover passes them to McCarthy?	胡佛把它们交给了麦卡锡？
[2:21:47]	Oppenheimer’s too slippery for that self-promoting clown.	对那个自吹自擂的小丑来说 奥本海默太狡猾了
[2:21:50]	I’ve talked it over with Hoover.	我跟胡佛谈过了
[2:21:51]	He’ll hold McCarthy at bay while you do this with the AEC.	他会牵制麦卡锡 而你去对付原子能委员会
[2:21:55]	-Trial? -No, no trial.	-庭审？ -不 没有庭审
[2:21:57]	You can’t give Oppenheimer a platform.	你不能给奥本海默一个平台
[2:22:00]	You can’t martyr him.	绝不能让他成为烈士
[2:22:02]	We need a systematic destruction of Oppenheimer’s credibility,	我们需要系统性地摧毁奥本海默的威信
[2:22:05]	so he can never again speak on matters of national security.	这样他就再也不能谈论国家安全问题了
[2:22:10]	Then what?	然后呢？
[2:22:12]	A shabby little room. Far from the limelight.	一个破旧的小房间 远离聚光灯
[2:22:21]	A simple bureaucratic procedure. His Q clearance. It’s up for renewal.	一个简单的官僚程序 他的安全许可证就要续签了
[2:22:26]	You send your accusations to the FBI…	你向联邦调查局提出指控……
[2:22:31]	Hoover sends them to the AEC. You’re forced to act.	胡佛把他们送到原子能委员会 你被迫采取行动
[2:22:35]	You write up an indictment.	你写一份起诉书
[2:22:37]	You tell Oppenheimer his security clearance is not being renewed.	你告诉奥本海默 他的安全许可不会延期
[2:22:41]	But offer him the chance to appeal.	但给他一个上诉的机会
[2:22:42]	As you can see, Robert, it’s not yet signed.	如你所见 罗伯特 还没有签字
[2:22:45]	-May I keep this? -No.	-我可以保留这个吗？ -不行
[2:22:47]	If you do decide to appeal, they’ll have to send you a copy.	如果你决定上诉 他们会寄给你一份副本
[2:22:51]	When he appeals, and trust me, he will, I appoint a board.	当他上诉的时候 相信我 他会的 我会任命一个委员会
[2:22:57]	They will, of course, have counsel.	他们中当然会有律师
[2:23:00]	-Prosecutor? -In all but name.	-检察官？ -除了名字
[2:23:01]	-Who? -Roger Robb.	-谁？ -罗杰·罗博
[2:23:03]	Ouch.	哎哟
[2:23:04]	Robb will have security clearance to examine Oppenheimer’s file.	罗伯将获得安全许可 查阅奥本海默的档案
[2:23:08]	As will the Gray Board. Defense counsel will not.	格雷委员会也可以 辩护律师则不行
[2:23:12]	A closed hearing.	一次闭门听证会
[2:23:13]	The so-called interrogatory information in your indictment of me…	你们在阅读我的起诉书中所谓的审讯信息时……
[2:23:17]	No audience, no reporters, no burden of proof.	没有观众 没有记者 没有举证责任
[2:23:21]	No burden of proof?	没有举证责任？
[2:23:24]	We’re not convicting.	我们不定罪
[2:23:27]	We’re just denying.	我们只是否认
[2:23:34]	What is it you said?	你说的是什么？
[2:23:37]	This is just how the game is played.	这就是政治的游戏规则
[2:23:41]	Well, forgive my naivete.	好吧 原谅我的天真
[2:23:43]	Amateurs seek the sun, get eaten.	业余者寻找阳光 被吞掉
[2:23:48]	Power stays in the shadows.	权力只发生在阴影中
[2:23:52]	But, sir, you’re… you’re out of the shadows now.	但是 先生 你……你现在已经走出阴影了
[2:23:55]	Yeah, that’s why this has to work.	是啊 所以我们一定要成功
[2:23:57]	Well…	好吧……
[2:24:00]	Teller’s testifying this morning.	泰勒今天早上要出庭作证
[2:24:02]	That’ll help. And then…	那会有帮助的 然后……
[2:24:04]	Hill is in the afternoon.	希尔在下午
[2:24:05]	Hill is gonna help us too.	希尔也会帮我们的
[2:24:10]	As you can see, Robert, it’s not yet signed.	如你所见 罗伯特 还没有签字
[2:24:13]	-May I keep this? -No.	我可以保留这个吗？ 不行
[2:24:17]	If you do decide to appeal, then they’ll have to send you a copy.	如果你决定上诉 他们会寄给你一份副本
[2:24:26]	Take my car and driver, I insist.	你可以用我的车和司机 不必客气
[2:24:33]	I’ll have to consult my lawyers, Lewis.	我得咨询我的律师 刘易斯
[2:24:35]	Of course. But don’t take too long.	当然 但别太久
[2:24:38]	I can’t keep Nichols at bay.	我无法阻止尼科尔斯
[2:24:46]	I’m sorry it’s come to this, Robert.	抱歉事情变成这样 罗伯特
[2:24:48]	I think it’s wrong.	我觉得这样不对
[2:25:03]	Nichols wants me to fight, so he can get it all on the record.	尼科尔斯希望我反击 这样他就能把一切都记录下来
[2:25:06]	Strauss wants me to walk away.	施特劳斯想让我离开
[2:25:08]	Strauss knows that you can’t do that. You’d be accepting the charges.	施特劳斯知道你不会这么做 你一定会接受指控
[2:25:13]	You’ll lose your job.	你会失去工作的
[2:25:15]	You will lose your reputation. We’ll lose our house.	你会失去你的名誉 我们会失去我们的房子
[2:25:18]	Robert, we have to fight.	罗伯特 我们必须战斗
[2:25:23]	As AEC counsel, I can’t represent you.	作为原子能委员会的律师 我不能代表你
[2:25:25]	I’ll call Lloyd Garrison.	我会给劳埃德·加里森打电话
[2:25:27]	Oh, he’s good.	噢 他很厉害
[2:25:28]	The best, but I have to warn you.	最好的 但我得警告你
[2:25:33]	This won’t be a fair fight.	这不是一场公平的战斗
[2:25:35]	During your interview with Boris Pash in 1943, did you refer to microfilm?	1943年你与鲍里斯·帕什谈话时提到过缩微胶卷吗？
[2:25:40]	-No. -Tab 11, page one, paragraph three.	-没有 -标签11 第一页 第三段
[2:25:43]	You never said, “man of the consulate, expert in the use of microfilm”?	你从没说过“领事馆的人 微缩胶卷的专家”？
[2:25:46]	-I’m sorry, I’m sorry… -No.	-对不起 对不起…… -没有
[2:25:47]	I would like to know what document Mr. Robb is quoting from,	我想知道罗博先生引用的是哪份文件
[2:25:50]	and if we might be furnished with a copy.	是否可以向我们提供一份副本
[2:25:52]	The document is classified, Mr. Garrison.	该文件属于机密 加里森先生
[2:25:54]	I think we should get back to firsthand information.	我认为我们应该采用第一手资料
[2:25:56]	This is firsthand.	这就是第一手资料
[2:25:57]	How so, Roger?	怎么说 罗杰？
[2:26:00]	There was a recording of the interview.	有一段谈话的录音
[2:26:07]	You let my client sit here and potentially perjure himself,	你让我的委托人坐在这里 并有可能作伪证
[2:26:10]	and all this time, you had a recording?	一直以来 你都有录音？
[2:26:12]	Nobody told your client to misrepresent his former answers.	没人让你的委托人歪曲他之前的答案
[2:26:15]	Misrepresent? It was 12 years ago!	歪曲? 那是12年前的事了！
[2:26:17]	Can we hear this recording?	我们可以听一下这段录音吗？
[2:26:19]	You don’t have the clearance, Mr. Garrison.	你没有权限 加里森先生
[2:26:20]	But you’re reading it into the record!	但你把它读到了记录里！
[2:26:22]	Please, please. Is this proceeding interested in entrapment or in truth?	拜托 拜托 这个诉讼程序是为了诱捕还是探寻真相？
[2:26:27]	If it’s truth, where’s the disclosure? Where’s the witness list?	如果是真相 证据呢? 证人名单呢？
[2:26:31]	Mr. Garrison, this isn’t a trial, as you are well aware.	加里森先生 如你所知 这不是审判
[2:26:34]	Evidentiary rules do not apply. We are dealing with national security.	证据规则不适用 我们在处理国家安全问题
[2:26:38]	Yes, sir, with all due respect,	是的 长官 恕我直言
[2:26:39]	I fail to see how national security prevents the prosecution from	我不明白国家安全如何能阻止检方
[2:26:43]	providing us with a list of witnesses! -Perhaps we are in need	给我们提供一份证人名单！ -也许我们确实需要
[2:26:45]	of a brief recess. -Gentlemen. You have my words.	暂时休庭 -先生们 我向你们保证
[2:26:48]	If you say they’re from a transcript, then I’ll accept it.	如果你说它们来自抄本 那我就接受
[2:26:51]	I’ve already explained I made up a cock-and-bull story.	我已经解释过了 我编了一个荒唐可笑的故事
[2:26:54]	And why would anyone make up such an elaborate story?	为什么会有人编造这么复杂的故事呢？
[2:26:57]	Because I was an idiot.	因为我是个傻瓜
[2:26:59]	Why lie?	为什么要撒谎？
[2:27:00]	Well, clearly with the intention of not revealing who the intermediary was.	嗯 显然是为了不暴露中间人的身份
[2:27:05]	Your friend, Haakon Chevalier, the communist.	你的朋友 哈康·舍瓦利耶 是共产党员
[2:27:07]	Is he still your friend?	他还是你的朋友吗？
[2:27:09]	Yes.	是的
[2:27:14]	Dr. Rabi, thank you for coming.	拉比博士 谢谢你能来
[2:27:16]	You know who else the prosecution has called?	你知道控方还传唤了谁吗？
[2:27:18]	Teller, obviously. They’ve asked Lawrence.	显然是泰勒 他们问过劳伦斯了
[2:27:22]	-What did he say? -He wasn’t going to help them,	-他说什么？ -他不会帮他们的
[2:27:25]	but… -But?	但是…… -但是？
[2:27:27]	Strauss told him that you and Ruth Tolman had been having an affair for years.	施特劳斯告诉他 你和鲁丝·托尔曼多年来一直有染
[2:27:32]	The whole time you lived with them in Pasadena.	你和他们一起住在帕萨迪纳的那段时间
[2:27:35]	He convinced Lawrence that Richard died of a broken heart.	他让劳伦斯相信理查德死于伤心欲绝
[2:27:38]	-That’s absurd. -What part?	-这太荒谬了 -哪部分？
[2:27:40]	A broken heart. Richard never found out.	伤心欲绝 理查德从未发现
[2:27:44]	Is Lawrence gonna testify?	劳伦斯会作证吗？
[2:27:46]	I don’t know.	我不知道
[2:27:48]	Dr. Rabi, what governmental positions do you currently hold?	拉比博士 你目前在政府担任什么职务？
[2:27:52]	I am the chairman of the general advisory committee	我是原子能委员会顾问委员会主席
[2:27:55]	to the AEC, succeeding Dr. Oppenheimer.	接替奥本海默博士
[2:27:58]	And how long have you known Dr. Oppenheimer?	你认识奥本海默博士多久了？
[2:28:01]	Since 1928. I… I know him quite well.	从1928年开始 我……我很了解他
[2:28:05]	Well enough to speak to the bearing of his loyalty and character?	足以说明他的忠诚和品格了吗？
[2:28:09]	Dr. Oppenheimer is a man of upstanding character.	奥本海默博士是一个品格正直的人
[2:28:13]	And he is loyal to the United States, to his friends,	他忠于美国 忠于他的朋友
[2:28:17]	to the institutions of which he is part.	忠于他所属的机构
[2:28:21]	Eat.	吃吧
[2:28:42]	Who was that?	那是谁？
[2:28:43]	Nothing to worry about.	不用担心
[2:28:48]	After the Russian A-bomb test,	俄国原子弹试验后
[2:28:49]	did Dr. Lawrence come to see you about the hydrogen bomb?	劳伦斯博士来找你是为了谈氢弹的事吗？
[2:28:52]	You’d be better off asking him.	你最好去问他
[2:28:54]	Well, I fully intend to.	嗯 我正打算这么做
[2:28:56]	Would you say that Dr. Oppenheimer was unalterably opposed to the H-bomb?	你是否认为奥本海默博士坚决反对氢弹？
[2:29:00]	No, he, he thought that a fusion program	不 他 他认为核聚变项目
[2:29:03]	would come at the expense of our awfully good fission program.	将以牺牲我们非常好的核裂变项目为代价
[2:29:06]	But that proved not to be the case.	但事实证明并非如此
[2:29:08]	In the event, both could be done.	在这种情况下 两者都可以做到
[2:29:10]	Suppose that this board did not feel satisfied	假设委员会不满意
[2:29:13]	that in his testimony here Dr. Oppenheimer had been wholly truthful,	奥本海默博士在他的证词中是完全属实的
[2:29:17]	what would you say whether or not he should be cleared?	你认为是否应该给他颁发安全许可？
[2:29:19]	Why go through all this against a man	为什么要这样对待一个男人
[2:29:21]	who has accomplished what Dr. Oppenheimer has?	一个像奥本海默博士那样取得巨大成就的人
[2:29:23]	Look at his record.	看看他的记录
[2:29:25]	We have an A-bomb, and a whole series of it.	我们有一颗原子弹 和一系列的原子弹
[2:29:27]	We have a whole series of super bombs. What more do you want?	我们还有一系列的氢弹 你还想要什么？
[2:29:31]	Mermaids?	美人鱼吗？
[2:29:33]	But I’ve known Secretary Strauss for many years.	但我认识施特劳斯部长很多年
[2:29:36]	And I feel it a necessity to express the warm support	我觉得有必要肯定刘易斯
[2:29:39]	for science and scientists Lewis has shown.	对科学和科学家的热情支持
[2:29:42]	We’ll break now.	我们现在开始
[2:29:44]	-Unless there’s any immediate business. -Senator, I’d like to once again request	-除非有什么紧急事务 -参议员 我想再次请求
[2:29:48]	that we’re furnished with a list of witnesses.	我们已经准备好了一份证人的名单
[2:29:51]	And I will remind the nominee	我会提醒被提名者
[2:29:52]	that we don’t always have that information in advance.	我们并不总是事先知道这些信息
[2:29:55]	We do know that Dr. Hill will be here after lunch.	我们知道希尔博士午饭后会来
[2:29:58]	Mr. Chairman, our next scheduled witness, Dr. Lawrence,	主席先生 下一位证人 劳伦斯博士
[2:30:01]	has apparently come down with colitis.	患有结肠炎来不了
[2:30:07]	So we’ll proceed with William Borden instead.	所以我们还是开始威廉·博登吧
[2:30:10]	Mr. Borden, welcome. Please take a seat.	博登先生 欢迎 请坐
[2:30:15]	Mr. Borden,	博登先生
[2:30:17]	during your investigation into Dr. Oppenheimer,	在你调查奥本海默博士期间
[2:30:20]	did you reach certain conclusions?	你得出什么结论了吗？
[2:30:22]	-I did. -And did there come a time	-有的 -你是否曾在信中
[2:30:24]	when you expressed those conclusions in a letter to Mr. J. Edgar Hoover,	向联邦调查局的胡佛先生
[2:30:27]	of the Federal Bureau of Investigation? -That is correct.	表达过这些结论 -没错
[2:30:30]	Prior to the writing of the letter, did you discuss the writing of the letter	在写这封信之前 你是否与原子能委员会的人
[2:30:33]	with anybody attached to the Atomic Energy Commission?	讨论过这封信的写法？
[2:30:35]	-I did not. -Excellent.	-没有 -很好
[2:30:36]	-Do you have a copy of the letter? -I have one in front of me.	-你有那封信的复本吗？ -我面前有一份
[2:30:38]	Would you please be so kind as to read it, sir?	请您读一读 先生？
[2:30:42]	“Dear Mr. Hoover, the purpose of this letter	“亲爱的胡佛先生 我写这封信的目的
[2:30:44]	-“is to state…” -I’m sorry, I’m sorry, if I could have…	-“是表达……” -对不起 对不起 如果我可以……
[2:30:47]	What is the purpose of the delay? He’s simply going to read the letter.	中断的目的是什么? 他只是要读这封信
[2:30:51]	Mr. Chairman, this is the first I’ve seen of this letter.	主席先生 这是我第一次看到这封信
[2:30:54]	And I see statements here, at least one,	我看到这里至少有一份声明
[2:30:57]	of a kind that I don’t think anyone would like to see go into the record.	我认为没有人愿意看到这种事情被记录在案
[2:30:59]	These are accusations that have not previously been made,	这些都是以前从未有过的指控
[2:31:02]	that are not part of the indictment from Nichols.	不在尼科拉斯的起诉书中
[2:31:04]	Accusations of a kind that I don’t think belong here.	我觉得这种指控不该出现在这里
[2:31:07]	The witness wrote this letter on his own initiative,	证人主动写了这封信
[2:31:09]	laying out evidence that has already been before the board.	列出已经摆在委员会面前的证据
[2:31:11]	His conclusions are valid testimony,	他的结论是有效的证词
[2:31:13]	just like the positive conclusions of friends of Dr. Oppenheimer.	就像奥本海默博士的朋友得出的正面结论一样
[2:31:16]	It cuts both ways.	这是双向的
[2:31:18]	How long has counsel been in possession of this letter?	律师收到这封信多久了？
[2:31:20]	I don’t think I should be subject to cross-examination by you, Mr. Garrison.	我不认为我应该被你交叉询问 加里森先生
[2:31:24]	Mr. Garrison, given that we on the board have all read the letter,	加里森先生 鉴于我们委员会成员都读过这封信
[2:31:27]	wouldn’t it be better to have it in the record?	记录在案不是更好吗？
[2:31:30]	Let’s proceed.	让我们继续
[2:31:33]	“Dear Mr. Hoover,	“亲爱的胡佛先生
[2:31:35]	“the purpose of this letter is to state my opinion,	“我写这封信的目的是表达我的观点
[2:31:38]	“based upon years of study of the available classified evidence,	基于对现有机密证据的多年研究
[2:31:42]	“that, more probably than not,	“很有可能
[2:31:44]	“J. Robert Oppenheimer is an agent of the Soviet Union.	J·罗伯特·奥本海默是苏联特工
[2:31:49]	“The following conclusions are justified.	下面的结论是合理的
[2:31:52]	“One, between 1929 and 1942, more probably than not,	第一 从1929年到1942年之间 很有可能
[2:31:56]	“J. Robert Oppenheimer was a sufficiently hardened communist	“J·罗伯特·奥本海默是一个死硬派共产主义者
[2:32:00]	“that he volunteered information to the Soviets.	他自愿向苏联提供情报
[2:32:03]	“Two, more probably than not,	”第二 极有可能
[2:32:05]	“he has since been functioning as an espionage agent.	“从那以后 他就开始充当间谍
[2:32:09]	“Three.	“第三
[2:32:10]	“More probably than not, he has since acted under a Soviet directive	“更有可能的是 他此后一直按照苏联的指令行事
[2:32:14]	“in influencing United States military policy.”	”影响美国的军事政策”
[2:32:17]	-I’m sorry, Robert. -“Atomic energy, intelligence and…”	-对不起 罗伯特 -“原子能 情报和……”
[2:32:20]	Is anyone ever going to tell the truth about what’s happening here?	难道没人能告诉这里发生的事情的真相
[2:32:25]	We will now hear from Dr. David Hill.	我们现在听取大卫·希尔博士的证词
[2:32:38]	Dr. Hill, would you care to make a statement?	希尔博士 你愿意发表声明吗？
[2:32:43]	Thank you.	谢谢
[2:32:44]	I’ve been asked to testify about Lewis Strauss,	我被要求为刘易斯·施特劳斯作证
[2:32:48]	a man who has given years of service in high positions of government,	一个在政府高层任职多年的人
[2:32:53]	and who is known to be earnest, hard-working, and intelligent.	他以认真、勤奋、聪明而著称
[2:32:59]	The views I have to express are my own,	我要表达的是我自己的观点
[2:33:02]	but I believe that much I have to say will help to indicate why	但我相信我所说的一切将有助于说明为什么
[2:33:06]	most of the scientists in this country would prefer to see Mr. Strauss	这个国家的大多数科学家更愿意看到施特劳斯先生
[2:33:11]	completely out of government.	完全退出政府
[2:33:15]	You’re referring to the hostility of certain scientists,	你指的是某些科学家的敌意
[2:33:19]	directed toward Mr. Strauss, because of his commitment to security,	指向施特劳斯先生 因为他致力于公共安全
[2:33:23]	as demonstrated in the Oppenheimer affair?	就像奥本海默事件所表明的那样？
[2:33:28]	No.	不
[2:33:30]	Because of the personal vindictiveness he demonstrated against Dr. Oppenheimer.	是因为他对奥本海默博士的报复心理
[2:33:37]	Order! Order!	肃静! 肃静！
[2:33:40]	It appears to most scientists around this country	在这个国家的大多数科学家看来
[2:33:44]	that Robert Oppenheimer is now being pilloried,	罗伯特·奥本海默现在正在被嘲笑
[2:33:47]	and put through an ordeal, because he expressed his honest opinions.	因为他诚实地表达了自己的观点 所以经历了一场严峻的磨难
[2:33:52]	Dr. Bush, I thought I was performing a service to my country	布什博士 我以为我是为国家服务
[2:33:55]	when hearing this case. -No board, in this country,	当我听取这个案子时 -在这个国家 没有委员会
[2:33:59]	should sit in judgment of a man because he expressed his strong opinions.	因为一个人表达了自己强烈的意见 所以应该对他进行审判
[2:34:03]	If you want to try that case, you should try me.	如果你想审查那个案子 你们应该审查我
[2:34:07]	Excuse me, gentlemen, if I’ve… become stirred.	对不起 先生们 可能我……过于激动
[2:34:11]	But I am.	但我是这么想的
[2:34:12]	Dr. Hill, we’ve already heard that Mr. Strauss did not bring the charges,	希尔博士 我们听说施特劳斯先生并没有提出指控
[2:34:16]	or participate in the hearings against Dr. Oppenheimer.	或者参加对奥本海默博士的听证会
[2:34:19]	The Oppenheimer matter was…	奥本海默事件是……
[2:34:22]	initiated, and carried through, largely through the animus of Lewis Strauss.	主要由刘易斯·施特劳斯策划、发起并操纵的
[2:34:28]	Oppenheimer made mincemeat out of Strauss’s position	奥本海默把施特劳斯推下了神坛
[2:34:31]	on the shipments of isotopes to Norway,	在向挪威出口同位素的问题上
[2:34:33]	and Strauss never forgave him this public humiliation.	施特劳斯永远不会原谅他的公众羞辱
[2:34:37]	Another controversy between them centered around their differences in judgment	他们之间的另一个争论围绕着他们在判断上的分歧
[2:34:41]	on how the H-bomb would contribute to national security.	关于氢弹对国家安全的作用
[2:34:44]	Strauss turned to the personnel security system in order to	施特劳斯借口人员安全系统 以便
[2:34:47]	destroy Oppenheimer’s effectiveness,	破坏奥本海默的成就
[2:34:50]	and Strauss was able to find a few ambitious men	施特劳斯找来了几个野心勃勃的人
[2:34:53]	who also disagreed with Oppenheimer’s positions and envied him	他们也不同意奥本海默的立场 并且嫉妒
[2:34:57]	his prestige in government circles.	他在政界的威望
[2:34:59]	I’ve always assumed, and still assume, that he is loyal to the United States.	我一直认为 而且现在仍然认为他忠于美国
[2:35:04]	I believe this, and I shall believe it,	我相信 我也会一直相信
[2:35:06]	until I see very conclusive proof to the opposite.	除非我看到相反的确凿证据
[2:35:08]	Do you or do you not believe that Dr. Oppenheimer is a security risk?	你是否相信奥本海默博士存在安全风险？
[2:35:16]	In a great number of cases, I have seen Dr. Oppenheimer act in a way	在很多情况下 我看到奥本海默博士的行为
[2:35:19]	which was, to me, exceedingly hard to understand.	对我来说 非常难以理解
[2:35:23]	I thoroughly disagreed with him in numerous issues,	我在许多问题上完全不同意他的观点
[2:35:25]	and his actions frankly appeared to me confused and complicated.	坦白地说 他的行为让我感到迷惑不解
[2:35:29]	To this extent, I feel I want to see the vital interests of this country	从这个意义上讲 我希望看到这个国家的切身利益
[2:35:34]	in hands which I understand better, and therefore trust more.	掌握在我更了解、更信任的人手中
[2:35:39]	-Thank you, Doctor. -Thank you.	-谢谢你 博士 -谢谢
[2:35:44]	I’m sorry.	对不起
[2:35:48]	You shook his fucking hand!?	你他妈的跟他握手了？
[2:35:51]	Oh, I would have spit in his face.	噢 我会朝他脸上吐口水
[2:35:53]	I’m not sure the Board would have appreciated that.	我不确定委员会是否喜欢这样
[2:35:55]	Is it not gentlemanly enough for you?	难道你还不够绅士吗？
[2:35:57]	Well, I think you’re all being too goddamn gentlemanly.	好吧 我觉得你们都太他妈绅士了
[2:36:00]	Gray must see what Robb is doing. Why doesn’t he just shut him down?	格雷委员会一定知道罗博在做什么 他们为什么不干脆把他关起来？
[2:36:04]	And you, shaking Teller’s hand.	还有你 居然和泰勒握手
[2:36:06]	You need to stop playing the martyr.	你别再扮演烈士了
[2:36:10]	Under the current AEC guidelines, would you clear Dr. Oppenheimer today?	根据原子能委员会目前的指导方针 你今天会给奥本海默博士颁发安全许可吗？
[2:36:21]	Under my interpretation of the Atomic Energy Act,	根据我对《原子能法案》的理解
[2:36:26]	which did not exist when I hired Dr. Oppenheimer in 1942,	我在1942年聘请奥本海默博士时 该法案还不存在
[2:36:32]	I would not clear him today if I were on the commission.	如果我是委员会成员 我今天不会给他颁发安全许可
[2:36:37]	Good. Thank you, General. That is all.	很好 谢谢你 将军 就这样
[2:36:39]	But I don’t think I’d clear any of those guys.	但我不认为我会颁给他们中任何一个人
[2:36:41]	That’s all.	就这样
[2:36:46]	Dr. Oppenheimer had no responsibility in the selection	奥本海默博士在选拔中不承担任何责任
[2:36:48]	or the clearance of Klaus Fuchs, did he?	包括克劳斯·福克斯的安全许可 对吧？
[2:36:50]	No. None at all.	是 完全没有
[2:36:52]	And you wouldn’t want to leave this board with any suggestion today that	你今天并不想在离开时留给委员会一个印象
[2:36:55]	you’re here questioning his basic loyalty to the United States	你在这里质疑他参与洛斯阿拉莫斯的行动期间
[2:36:58]	in the operation of Los Alamos?	对美国的忠诚？
[2:37:00]	By no means. I hope I didn’t lead anyone to believe otherwise for an instant.	绝对不是 我希望我没有让任何人产生误解
[2:37:05]	Thank you, General.	谢谢你 将军
[2:37:24]	-Okay. We shouldn’t keep them waiting. -She’ll be here.	-好吧 我们不能让他们等太久 -她会来的
[2:37:28]	Do you even want her here?	你真心希望她作证吗？
[2:37:30]	Only a fool or an adolescent presumes	只有傻瓜或青少年才会自以为
[2:37:32]	to know someone else’s relationship, and you’re neither, Lloyd.	知道别人的关系 而你两者都不是 劳埃德
[2:37:38]	Kitty and I are grown-ups.	凯蒂和我都是成年人
[2:37:42]	We’ve walked through fire together.	我们一起走过风风雨雨
[2:37:45]	She’ll do fine.	她一定行的
[2:37:47]	Would you describe your views on communism as pro, anti, neutral?	你对共产主义的看法是支持 反对 还是中立？
[2:37:51]	Very strongly against.	强烈反对
[2:37:52]	I’ve had nothing to do with communism in, since…	我和共产主义没有任何关系 自从……
[2:37:55]	since 1936. Since…	自从1936年 自从……
[2:37:58]	Since before I met Robert.	从我认识罗伯特之前
[2:38:02]	That’s all.	就这样
[2:38:04]	The record demonstrates that Oppenheimer was not interrogated	记录显示奥本海默没有受到为格雷委员会工作的
[2:38:07]	by impartial and disinterested counsel for the Gray Board.	公正无私的律师的审问
[2:38:10]	He was interrogated by a prosecutor who used	他受到一位具有律师背景的检察官的审问
[2:38:12]	all the tricks of a rather ingenious legal background.	后者施展浑身解数
[2:38:15]	You are charging now that the Gray Board permitted a prosecution.	你现在是在指控格雷委员会允许起诉
[2:38:20]	If I were on the Gray Board,	如果我站在格雷委员会面前
[2:38:22]	I would have protested against the tactics	我会抗议这种策略
[2:38:24]	of the man who served in fact as the prosecuting counsel.	有人实际上担任了检察官的职务
[2:38:27]	A man appointed not by the Board,	一个不是委员会任命的人
[2:38:30]	but by Lewis Strauss.	而是刘易斯·施特劳斯任命的
[2:38:34]	Who was this?	这人是谁？
[2:38:37]	I’m sorry?	什么？
[2:38:39]	Who was this?	他是谁？
[2:38:40]	Roger Robb.	罗杰・罗博
[2:38:42]	Mrs. Oppenheimer.	奥本海默夫人
[2:38:48]	Did you have a Communist Party membership card?	你有共产党员证吗？
[2:38:52]	I’m… I’m not sure.	我……我不确定
[2:38:54]	Not sure?	不确定？
[2:38:58]	Well…	嗯……
[2:39:03]	Well?	什么？
[2:39:12]	I mean, presumably, the act of joining the party	我是说 大概 要加入共产党
[2:39:15]	required sending some money and receiving a card, no?	需要寄一些钱和收到一张卡片 对吗？
[2:39:29]	Sorry.	对不起
[2:39:31]	Yes.	是的
[2:39:34]	It’s just, it was all so very long ago, Mr. Robb, wasn’t it?	只是 那都是很久以前的事了 罗博先生 不是吗？
[2:39:38]	-Not really. -Long enough to have forgotten.	-说实话 -久到我都忘了
[2:39:39]	-Did you return the card, or rip it up? -The card whose existence I’ve forgotten?	-你是把卡退了还是撕了？ -那张我已经忘记存在的卡？
[2:39:42]	-Your Communist Party membership card? -Haven’t the slightest idea.	-你的共产党员证？ -一点印象也没有
[2:39:49]	Can a distinction be made between Soviet communism and communism?	苏联共产主义和共产主义能区分开来吗？
[2:39:53]	Well, in the days when I was a member,	嗯 当我还是党员的时候
[2:39:54]	-I thought they were definitely two things. -Oh?	-我认为他们绝对是两回事 -哦？
[2:39:56]	I thought that the Communist Party of the United States	我认为美国共产党
[2:39:59]	was concerned with our domestic problems. I now no longer believe this.	关心我们的国内问题 当然我现在不再相信这一点
[2:40:03]	I believe the whole thing’s linked together and spread all over the world,	我相信整个事情联系在一起而且遍布全世界
[2:40:05]	and I have believed this since I left the party 16 years ago.	自从16年前我离开共产党 我就一直相信这一点
[2:40:09]	-But… -17 years ago. My mistake.	-但…… -17年前 我错了
[2:40:12]	-But you… -Sorry, 18.	-但是你…… -对不起 18
[2:40:15]	18 years ago.	18年前
[2:40:18]	Are you familiar with the fact your husband was making contributions	您是否知道您的丈夫早在1942年
[2:40:20]	to the Spanish Civil War as late as 1942?	就一直支持西班牙内战？
[2:40:23]	I knew that Robert gave money from time to time.	我知道罗伯特有时会捐钱
[2:40:25]	Did you know this money was going into Communist Party channels?	你知道这些钱流入了共产党的渠道吗？
[2:40:28]	-Don’t you mean through? -Pardon?	-你是说通过吗？ -什么？
[2:40:30]	I think you mean through Communist Party channels, don’t you?	我想你的意思是通过共产党的渠道 不是吗？
[2:40:33]	-Yes. -Yes?	-是的 -是的？
[2:40:34]	-Yes.	-是的 -是的 -Yes.
[2:40:36]	Then would it be fair to say that this meant that by 1942,	那么公平地说 这是否意味着直到1942年
[2:40:40]	your husband had not stopped having anything to do with the Communist Party?	你丈夫并没有断绝和共产党的任何关系？
[2:40:44]	You don’t have to answer that yes or no, you can answer that any way you wish.	你不必回答是或不是 你可以随心所欲地回答
[2:40:47]	I know that, thank you. It’s your question.	我知道 谢谢 这是你的问题
[2:40:50]	It’s not properly phrased.	措辞不当
[2:40:52]	-Do you understand what I’m getting at? -I do.	-你明白我的意思吗？ -我明白
[2:40:53]	-Then why don’t you answer it that way? -Because I don’t like your phrase,	-那你为什么不正面回答呢？ -因为我不喜欢你的用词
[2:40:56]	“having anything to do with the Communist Party,”	“和共产党的任何关系”
[2:40:58]	because Robert never had anything to do with the Communist Party as such.	因为罗伯特和共产党没有任何关系
[2:41:02]	I know he gave money to Spanish refugees.	我知道他给西班牙难民捐钱
[2:41:04]	I know he took an intellectual interest in communist ideas.	我知道他对共产主义思想感兴趣
[2:41:07]	Are there two types of communists?	有两种共产主义者吗？
[2:41:09]	Intellectual communists, and your plain old regular commie?	知识分子共产主义者 还有你们这些普通的老共产主义者？
[2:41:13]	Well, I couldn’t answer that one.	这个我回答不上
[2:41:16]	I couldn’t either.	我也不能
[2:41:24]	Good evening.	晚上好
[2:41:26]	Robert, you can’t win this thing.	罗伯特 你赢不了的
[2:41:27]	It’s a kangaroo court with a predetermined outcome.	这是一个预先设定好结果的袋鼠法庭
[2:41:29]	Why put yourself through more of it?	为什么要让自己经历这么多？
[2:41:32]	I have my reasons.	我有我的理由
[2:41:35]	Alright.	好吧
[2:41:36]	Good night.	晚安
[2:41:42]	He has a point.	他说的有道理
[2:41:45]	-I’m not sure you understand, Albert. -No?	-我不确定你是否明白 阿尔伯特 -不？
[2:41:48]	I left my country, never to return.	我离开了我的国家 再也没有回去
[2:41:52]	You served your country well.	你为国家贡献那么大
[2:41:54]	If this is the reward she offers you, then…	如果这就是她给你的奖励 那么……
[2:41:58]	perhaps you should turn your back on her.	也许你应该背弃她
[2:42:01]	Damn it, I happen to love this country.	该死的是我偏偏爱着这个国家
[2:42:04]	Then tell them to go to hell.	那就让他们见鬼去吧
[2:42:06]	Interestingly enough, this is no longer a confirmation hearing.	有趣的是 这不再是一个确认听证会
[2:42:10]	It’s now a trial…	现在是一场……
[2:42:12]	about a trial!	关于审判的审判！
[2:42:14]	For god’s sakes!	看在上帝份上！
[2:42:15]	It’s not good he’s telling everyone you initiated the hearings.	他告诉所有人是你发起的听证会可不是什么好事
[2:42:18]	He can’t prove a goddamn thing.	他什么玩意也证明不了
[2:42:20]	He certainly can’t prove that I gave the file to Borden.	他当然无法证明我把文件交给了博登
[2:42:24]	We’re not in court, sir. There’s no burden of proof.	我们不是在法庭上 先生 没有举证责任
[2:42:27]	Right, they’re not convicting.	对 他们没有定罪
[2:42:29]	They’re just denying.	他们只是在否认
[2:42:31]	Why would Hill come here to tear me down? What’s his angle?	希尔为什么要来这里拆我台 他有什么目的？
[2:42:34]	Do people need a reason to do the right thing?	人们做正确的事需要理由吗？
[2:42:37]	-As he sees it. -I told you.	-正如他所看到的 -我告诉过你
[2:42:39]	Oppenheimer’s been poisoning the scientists against me	奥本海默一直在蛊惑科学家反对我
[2:42:41]	right from that first meeting.	从第一次见面开始
[2:42:43]	I don’t know what Oppenheimer said to him that day,	我不知道奥本海默那天对他说了什么
[2:42:46]	but Einstein wouldn’t even meet my eye.	搞得爱因斯坦甚至都不愿意正眼瞧我
[2:42:51]	Oppenheimer knows how to manipulate his own.	奥本海默知道如何操纵自己的所有
[2:42:53]	At Los Alamos,	在洛斯阿拉莫斯
[2:42:55]	he preyed on the naivete of scientists	他利用了天真的科学家
[2:42:57]	who thought they get a say in how we use their work.	他们认为他们对我们如何使用他们的发明创造拥有发言权
[2:43:00]	They’ll never think he was that naive himself.	他们永远不会意识到自己有多么天真
[2:43:02]	Doctor, during your work on the hydrogen bomb,	博士 你在研发氢弹的过程中
[2:43:06]	were you… deterred by any moral qualms?	有没有……因为道德上的怀疑而退缩？
[2:43:09]	Yes, of course.	有的 当然
[2:43:11]	But you still got on with your work, didn’t you?	但你仍然继续你的工作 不是吗？
[2:43:13]	Yes, because this was work of exploration,	是的 因为这是一项探索性的工作
[2:43:15]	it was not the preparation of a weapon.	不是为了研发武器
[2:43:17]	You mean it was more of an academic excursion?	你是说这更像是一次学术探险？
[2:43:19]	No, it is not an academic thing, whether you can build a hydrogen bomb.	不 能否制造出氢弹 这不是一个学术问题
[2:43:22]	It’s a matter of life and death.	而是生死问题
[2:43:24]	By 1942, you were actively pushing the development	到了1942年 你积极推动
[2:43:26]	of the hydrogen bomb, weren’t you?	氢弹的研发 对吧？
[2:43:27]	Pushing is not the right word.	“推动”这个词不太恰当
[2:43:28]	Supporting it and working on it, yes.	支持并致力于此 是的
[2:43:30]	So when did these moral qualms become so strong	那么 什么时候这些道德焦虑变得如此强烈
[2:43:33]	that you actively opposed the development of the hydrogen bomb?	令你积极反对发展氢弹？
[2:43:36]	When it was suggested that it be the policy of the United States	当有人建议这是美国的国策时
[2:43:39]	to make these things at all costs,	不惜一切代价制造这些东西
[2:43:40]	without regard to the balance between these weapons	无视这些武器之间的平衡
[2:43:43]	and atomic weapons as part of our arsenal.	把原子武器作为我们军火库的一部分
[2:43:47]	What do moral qualms have to do with that?	这跟道德焦虑有什么关系？
[2:43:50]	-What do moral qualms have to do with it? -Yes.	-这跟道德焦虑有什么关系？ -是的
[2:43:52]	Oppenheimer wanted to own the atomic bomb.	奥本海默想拥有原子弹
[2:43:55]	He wanted to be The Man Who Moved the Earth.	他想成为那个撬动地球的人
[2:43:56]	He talks about putting the nuclear genie back in the bottle.	他说要把核魔鬼放回瓶子里
[2:44:01]	Well, I’m here to tell you that I know,	好吧 我来告诉你 我知道
[2:44:03]	J. Robert Oppenheimer, if he could do it all over, he’d do it all the same.	J·罗伯特·奥本海默 如果他能重新来过 他还是会这么做
[2:44:08]	You know he’s never once said that he regrets Hiroshima?	你知道他从来没有说过他对广岛事件感到后悔吗？
[2:44:12]	He’d do it all over. Why?	他会再做一遍 为什么？
[2:44:14]	Because it made him the most important man who ever lived.	因为这让他成为有史以来最重要的人
[2:44:20]	We freely used the atomic bomb.	我们自由地使用原子弹
[2:44:22]	In fact, Doctor, you assisted in selecting the target	事实上 博士 你协助选择了目标
[2:44:25]	to drop the atomic bomb on Japan, didn’t you?	向日本投下原子弹 不是吗？
[2:44:27]	-Yes… -Well then, you knew, did you not,	– 是的…… – 那么 你说 你不知道
[2:44:29]	that by dropping that atomic bomb on the target you selected,	把原子弹投向你选定的目标
[2:44:31]	that thousands of civilians would be killed or injured. Is that correct?	成千上万的平民会被杀害或受伤 对吗？
[2:44:34]	Yes, not as many as turned out.	是的 没想到那么多
[2:44:36]	Oh. Then how many were killed or injured?	噢 那么有多少人死伤呢？
[2:44:39]	-70,000. -70,000, both Hiroshima and…	-7万 -7万 广岛和……
[2:44:42]	-110,000 to both. -On the day of each bombing?	-两者合计11万 -在两颗核弹爆炸当天？
[2:44:46]	-Yes.	-是的 -是的 -Yes.
[2:44:47]	And in the weeks and years that followed?	接下来的几周和几年呢？
[2:44:49]	It has been put at somewhere between 50,000 and 100,000.	估计在5万到10万之间
[2:44:52]	220,000 dead, at least.	至少有22万人死亡
[2:44:54]	-Yes. -Any moral scruples about that?	-是的 -对此有道德上的怀疑吗？
[2:44:58]	Terrible ones.	糟糕透顶
[2:44:59]	But yet you testified in here that the bombing of Hiroshima was very successful.	但是你在这里作证说广岛原子弹爆炸非常成功
[2:45:03]	-Technically successful. -Oh! Technically it was very successful.	-技术上是成功的 -噢 技术上来说非常成功
[2:45:06]	And it is also alleged to have helped to end the war.	而且据说它还加快了战争的结束
[2:45:08]	Would you have been supportive of the dropping of a hydrogen bomb on Hiroshima?	你会支持在广岛投下氢弹吗？
[2:45:12]	That would make no sense at all.	这根本说不通
[2:45:13]	-Why? -The target is too small.	-为什么？ -目标太小
[2:45:16]	Well, supposing there had been a target in Japan	好吧 假设在日本有个目标
[2:45:18]	big enough for a thermonuclear weapon,	大到足以需要动用热核武器
[2:45:20]	would you have been opposed to the dropping of it?	你会反对投下氢弹吗？
[2:45:21]	This was not a problem with which I was confronted.	我从来没遇上这样的问题
[2:45:23]	Well, I’m confronting you with it now, sir.	好吧 我现在就来和你对质 先生
[2:45:25]	It was all part of his plan.	这都是他计划的一部分
[2:45:26]	He wanted the glorious, insincere guilt of the self-important	他想要的是自大狂那种光荣而虚伪的罪恶感
[2:45:30]	to wear like a fucking crown and say,	戴着他妈的皇冠然后说
[2:45:33]	“No, we cannot go down this road,” even as he knew we’d have to.	“不 我们不能走这条路” 即使他知道我们必须这么做
[2:45:38]	Would you have been opposed to the dropping of a thermonuclear weapon	你会出于道德上的顾虑
[2:45:41]	on Japan because of moral scruples? -Yes, I believe I would, sir.	而反对投下氢弹吗？ -是的 我相信我会的 先生
[2:45:44]	Did you oppose the dropping of an atomic bomb on Hiroshima	你是否反对在广岛投下原子弹
[2:45:46]	because of moral scruples?	因为道德上的顾虑？
[2:45:47]	-We set forth our… -No, you, you, you, you!	-我们开始…… -不 你 你 你 你！
[2:45:50]	-I’m asking you… -I set…	我在问你…… 我设了……
[2:45:51]	-You, you, you! -I set forth our arguments	-你 你 你！ -我陈述了我们的观点
[2:45:53]	against dropping it, but I did not endorse them.	反对投下 但我没有赞成
[2:45:55]	You mean after working night and day for three years building the bomb,	你是说在日以继夜地制造了三年的炸弹之后
[2:45:58]	you then argued against the use of it?	你竟然反对使用它？
[2:46:01]	I was asked by the Secretary of War what the views of scientists were.	战争部长问我 科学家的观点是什么
[2:46:04]	I gave them the views against and the views for.	我给了他们反对和赞成的意见
[2:46:07]	You supported the dropping of the atom bomb	你支持投下原子弹
[2:46:09]	on Japan, didn’t you? -What do you mean…	在日本 不是吗？ -你什么意思……
[2:46:10]	-You supported it… -What do you mean, support?	-你支持它…… -支持？你什么意思
[2:46:12]	Well, you helped pick the target, didn’t you?	你帮助选择了目标 不是吗？
[2:46:13]	I did my job. I was not in a policy-making position at Los Alamos.	我做了我的工作 我在洛斯阿拉莫斯不是做决策的
[2:46:17]	I would have done anything I was asked to do.	要我做什么我都会去做
[2:46:19]	Well, then, you would have built the H-bomb too, wouldn’t you?	那么 你也会制造氢弹 不是吗？
[2:46:21]	-But I couldn’t… -I didn’t ask you that, Doctor!	-但是我不能…… -我没问你这个 博士！
[2:46:24]	And the GAC report, which you co-authored after the Soviet atomic test said:	你在苏联核试验后参与撰写的总结评审报告中说:
[2:46:28]	“A super bomb should never be built!”	“氢弹永远不应该制造出来!”
[2:46:31]	What we meant, what I meant…	我们的意思是 我的意思是……
[2:46:33]	-What you, who? -Look, what I meant…	-什么 你 谁？ -看 我的意思是……
[2:46:34]	Who?	谁？
[2:46:36]	Well, wouldn’t the Russians do anything to increase their strength?	那么 俄罗斯人难道不会为增强实力而不择手段吗？
[2:46:40]	If we did it, they would have to do it!	如果我们这么做了 他们也必须这么做！
[2:46:42]	Our efforts would only fuel their efforts,	我们的努力只会助长他们的努力
[2:46:44]	just as it had with the atomic bomb!	就像原子弹一样！
[2:46:46]	Just as it had with the atomic bomb, exactly!	就像原子弹一样！说得好
[2:46:50]	No moral scruples in 1945, plenty in 1949.	1945年没有道德顾忌 1949年却顾忌重重
[2:46:59]	Dr. Oppenheimer…	奥本海默博士……
[2:47:02]	when did your strong moral convictions develop with respect to the hydrogen bomb?	你什么时候对氢弹产生强烈的道德信念的？
[2:47:14]	When it became clear to me	当我逐渐明白
[2:47:18]	that we would tend to use any weapon we had.	我们会倾向于使用任何我们拥有的武器
[2:47:24]	J. Robert Oppenheimer the martyr, I gave him exactly what he wanted.	J·罗伯特·奥本海默 我给了他想要的
[2:47:29]	To be remembered for Trinity,	因为“三位一体”而名垂青史
[2:47:31]	not Hiroshima!	不是广岛！
[2:47:34]	Not Nagasaki!	不是长崎！
[2:47:39]	He should be thanking me.	他应该感谢我
[2:47:41]	Well, he’s not.	可 他没有
[2:47:46]	Do we still have enough votes?	我们还有足够的票吗？
[2:47:48]	Or is the crowning moment of my career	还是说我职业生涯的巅峰时刻
[2:47:50]	about to become the most public humiliation of my life?	即将成为我一生中最公开的羞辱？
[2:47:54]	Full Senate’s about to vote.	全体参议员要投票了
[2:47:56]	You’ll scrape through.	你会顺利过关的
[2:47:57]	Great, then gather the fucking press.	太棒了 那就召集该死的媒体
[2:47:59]	Dr. J. Robert Oppenheimer, this board,	罗伯特·奥本海默博士 本委员会
[2:48:02]	having heard testimony from you	听取了你的证词
[2:48:04]	and many of your current and former colleagues,	以及你的许多现任和前任同事的证据
[2:48:07]	has come to the unanimous conclusion that you are a loyal citizen.	我们一致得出结论 你是一个忠诚的公民
[2:48:14]	However…	但是……
[2:48:16]	In the light of your continuing associations,	鉴于你们一直有联系
[2:48:19]	and disregard for the security apparatus of this country,	无视这个国家的安全机构
[2:48:23]	together with your somewhat disturbing conduct	再加上你在氢弹项目上
[2:48:26]	on the hydrogen bomb program,	令人不安的行为
[2:48:28]	and the regrettable lack of candor	以及你对委员会的某些回答
[2:48:30]	in certain of your responses to this board,	令人遗憾的缺乏坦诚
[2:48:33]	we have voted, two-to-one,	我们以二比一的投票结果
[2:48:36]	to deny the renewal of your security clearance.	拒绝延长你的安全许可
[2:48:39]	A full written opinion, with a dissent from Mr. Evans,	一份完整的意见书 包括埃文斯先生的异议
[2:48:42]	will be issued to the AEC in the coming days.	会在未来几天内递交原子能委员会
[2:48:45]	That is all.	就这样
[2:48:57]	Robert.	罗伯特
[2:48:59]	Robert.	罗伯特
[2:49:04]	Don’t…	别……
[2:49:08]	Don’t take in the sheets.	别把床单收起来
[2:49:15]	Two minutes. Two minutes!	两分钟 两分钟！
[2:49:17]	You’ll get your shot!	会有时间拍照！
[2:49:22]	Is it official?	结果出来了吗？
[2:49:26]	Well, there were a couple of unexpected holdouts.	嗯 有几个出乎意料的反对者
[2:49:35]	I’m denied. Yeah?	我被否决了 是吗？
[2:49:37]	-I’m afraid so, sir. -Alright.	-恐怕是这样 先生 -好吧
[2:49:47]	Who were the holdouts?	谁不肯合作？
[2:49:48]	Um, there were three.	呃 有三个人
[2:49:51]	Led by the junior senator from Massachusetts.	由马萨诸塞州的资深参议员领导
[2:49:54]	Young guy trying to make a name for himself,	一个初出茅庐的年轻人
[2:49:55]	didn’t like what you did to Oppenheimer.	不喜欢你对奥本海默做的事
[2:49:58]	What’s his name?	他叫什么名字？
[2:50:00]	Uh, Kennedy.	呃 肯尼迪
[2:50:02]	John F. Kennedy.	约翰·F·肯尼迪
[2:50:07]	Kitty?	凯蒂？
[2:50:14]	Did you think that if you let them tar and feather you,	你是不是以为 如果你让他们给你涂上柏油和羽毛
[2:50:18]	then the world would forgive you?	那么全世界将会原谅你？
[2:50:24]	It won’t.	不会的
[2:50:27]	We’ll see.	再说吧
[2:50:43]	You told me I’d be okay.	你说过我会没事的
[2:50:45]	Yeah, well, I didn’t have all the facts, did I?	是的 好吧 我没有掌握所有的事实 不是吗？
[2:50:48]	Here’s a fact.	事实是
[2:50:49]	President Eisenhower pinned the Medal of Freedom on my chest last year,	去年艾森豪威尔总统把自由勋章别在我胸前
[2:50:53]	because I’ve always done what’s right for this country.	因为我一直在为这个国家做正确的事
[2:50:55]	They don’t want me in the cabinet room? Well, that’s… that’s fine.	他们不想让我进内阁? 嗯 没……没关系
[2:51:00]	Maybe they should just invite Oppenheimer instead.	也许他们应该邀请奥本海默
[2:51:02]	Maybe they will.	也许他们会的
[2:51:04]	I told you. He turned the scientists against me,	我告诉过你 他让科学家们反对我
[2:51:07]	one by one, starting with Einstein.	一个接一个 从爱因斯坦开始
[2:51:09]	I told you about that. Einstein. Einstein by the pond.	我跟你说过的 爱因斯坦 爱因斯坦在池塘边
[2:51:12]	You did, but you know, sir, since nobody…	是的 但是你知道 先生 因为没有人……
[2:51:15]	really knows what they said to each other that day,	真的知道他们那天互相说了什么
[2:51:17]	is it possible they didn’t talk about you at all?	有没有可能他们根本没谈论过你？
[2:51:21]	Is it possible they spoke about something, uh…	有没有可能他们谈到了什么 呃……
[2:51:24]	more important?	更重要的？
[2:51:41]	Thank you.	谢谢
[2:51:42]	Albert.	阿尔伯特
[2:51:47]	The man of the moment.	风云人物
[2:51:52]	You once held a reception for me in Berkeley.	你曾经在伯克利为我举办过一场招待会
[2:51:57]	-You gave me an award, hmm? -Yes.	-你颁给我一个奖 记得吗？ -记得
[2:52:00]	You all thought that I had lost the ability to understand what I’d started.	你们都以为我已经无法理解自己开创的学科
[2:52:05]	So…	所以……
[2:52:07]	The award really wasn’t for me, it was for all of you, hmm?	那个奖不是给我的 是给你们的对不对
[2:52:13]	Now it’s your turn	现在轮到你了
[2:52:15]	to deal with the consequences of your achievement.	你不得不面对你的成就引发的后果
[2:52:21]	And one day, when they’ve punished you enough,	等哪天 他们觉得你的惩罚够了
[2:52:27]	they’ll serve you salmon and potato salad.	他们就会为你送上鲑鱼和土豆沙拉
[2:52:35]	Make speeches.	让你发表演讲
[2:52:37]	Give you a medal.	给你一枚勋章
[2:52:41]	Hello, Frank.	你好 弗兰克
[2:52:43]	You’re happy, I’m happy.	你开心 我就开心
[2:52:51]	Pat you on the back, tell you all is forgiven.	拍拍你的背 告诉你一切已经既往不咎
[2:52:55]	Just remember…	记住了……
[2:52:58]	it won’t be for you.	他们那样做不是为了你
[2:53:05]	It’ll be for them.	而是为了他们自己
[2:53:20]	Albert…	阿尔伯特……
[2:53:24]	when I came to you with those calculations,	当我带着计算结果来找你时
[2:53:27]	we thought we might start a chain reaction	我们认为我们可能会引发链式反应
[2:53:29]	that would destroy the entire world.	从而毀灭整个世界
[2:53:34]	I remember it well. What of it?	我记得很清楚 那又怎样？
[2:53:41]	I believe we did.	我们毁灭了世界
[2:54:31]		【 奥 本 海 默 】
[2:54:37]		编剧/导演: 克里斯托弗·诺兰