How to Survive a Plague(瘟疫求生指南)[2012]电影台词本阅读、下载和单词统计

电影名称：瘟疫求生指南
英文名称：How to Survive a Plague
年代：2012

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时间	英文	中文
[01:20]	Welcome to “Act Up”!	“行动起来”欢迎你们!
[01:22]	We are the AIDS coalition to unleash power	我们是释放权利的艾滋联盟
[01:25]	A diverse non-Partisan group of individuals united in anger	由一群愤怒的人组成的无党派多元化组织
[01:29]	And committed to direct action to end the AIDS Crisis!	致力于通过行动终结艾滋危机!
[01:33]	Less than 12 hours from now	离现在还有不到12个小时
[01:37]	We are going to be taking over City hall!	我们…将要占领…市政厅!
[01:41]	Act Up, fight back, fight AIDS!	行动起来还击回去抗击艾滋!
[01:45]	Yes?	请讲?
[01:46]	Mr. Mayor, in campaigning for the lesbian and gay vote in an election year	市长先生在竞选年为争取男女同性恋的选票
[01:49]	A bit of historical context is necessary…	关于处理纽约市艾滋危机的…
[01:51]	In dealing with the AIDS crisis in New York city	一点历史回溯还是有必要的
[01:53]	It wasn’t until 1983 that you met with people to deal with the AIDS crisis	直到1983年您才跟这些人会面商讨艾滋对策
[01:57]	How do you respond to these criticisms?	您对此类批评如何回应?
[01:58]	That is a falsehood	这是…不真实的
[01:59]	Please, anybody who’s thinking about being arrested	请每个做好被捕思想准备的人
[02:03]	Fill out a support sheet	都填写你们的支持表
[02:04]	Make sure your support person knows who you are and what group you’re in	确保你支持的人知道你是谁属于什么组织
[02:08]	Yeah? Do it	好吗? 请行动
[02:09]	If we end up in the tombs	假如我们最终要入土
[02:12]	Is there like, a queer tank there	会不会有一个…什么基佬墓地
[02:14]	And would you recommend that we ask to be there?	你建议我们都埋在那里吗?
[02:18]	There is a homo-Tank	确实有同志墓地
[02:19]	And I’ve been there	我去过
[02:20]	And it’s better than the straight tank, let me tell you	不骗你那儿比异性恋墓地好多了
[02:23]	Who else? Yes?	还有谁?
[02:24]	In the past, you’ve described Act Up as fascist	在过去您曾将”行动起来”形容为法西斯
[02:27]	Yet in the press release you called them “Concerned citizens”	然而在媒体报道中您称呼他们为 “尽责公民”
[02:30]	– And I was wondering what changed your mind? – Well, I don’t think…	– 我很好奇是什么改变了您的想法? – 呃我不觉得…
[02:32]	You can’t use both	两个词不能同时使用
[02:35]	Fascists can be concerned citizens	法西斯也可以是尽责公民啊
[02:39]	And… I don’t believe they are fascists	而且我不认为他们真的是法西斯
[02:42]	I think they have used a fascist tactic	我认为他们只是用了法西斯的策略
[02:44]	Let us celebrate together tonight the end of the last day	让我们今晚一起预祝这将是最后一天
[02:49]	On which Ed Koch can tell himself	爱德・考奇可以跟自己说
[02:52]	That the communities which are being decimated by this epidemic	这个被艾滋危机摧毁的群体
[02:55]	Are so weak	是那么的脆弱
[02:56]	And so divided among themselves	那么的一盘散沙
[02:58]	That he can keep serving us this kind of bullshit	以至他可以继续向我们兜售他的狗屎
[03:02]	Tomorrow morning he will begin to learn the truth!	明天一早他会开始认清现实!
[03:06]	Act Up, stand tall	行动起来挺起胸膛
[03:08]	Tomorrow morning at city hall!	明早市政厅干一场!
[03:10]	Act Up, stand tall	行动起来挺起胸膛
[03:12]	Tomorrow morning at city hall!	明早市政厅干一场!
[03:15]	Act Up, stand tall	行动起来挺起胸膛
[03:16]	Tomorrow morning at city hall!	明早市政厅干一场!
[03:19]	Act Up, stand tall…	行动起来挺起胸膛…
[03:53]	We’re talking to Jim Eigo	我们在访问吉姆・艾格尔
[03:55]	From the treatment issues committee of Act Up	他是”行动起来”治疗委员会的成员
[03:58]	Jim, what specific treatment issues	吉姆什么具体的治疗问题
[04:00]	Are being brought into this demonstration this week?	会成为本周游行的焦点?
[04:02]	The municipal hospitals are totally falling apart	市内医院已经完全瘫痪了
[04:05]	More than half of the people that get diagnosed with AIDS today	今天超过一半被诊断有艾滋的人
[04:08]	Get diagnosed in the emergency rooms of our city	都是在这个城市的急诊室里被诊断
[04:11]	You’re going to find yourself waiting four days in an emergency room	你会发现自己要在急症室等上四天
[04:15]	Before you get a bed	然后才有一张空床
[04:17]	Pretty scared	我害怕
[04:18]	But being HIV- Positive, I don’t have much choice in the matter	但作为一个艾滋携带者我没有多少选择
[04:23]	I just love all these people	我真的很爱这些人
[04:24]	And I think what we’re doing is really right	我觉得我们在做对的事情
[04:26]	And I mean, listen to this	而且我是说你听这个
[04:29]	And look at all the people	看这些人
[04:30]	It’s just really wonderful	感觉真的很棒
[04:31]	– And it’s worth putting yourself on the line for – There is no accurate diagnosis	– 值得你投身到这个队伍中 – 没有准确诊断
[04:34]	There are incentives in the city hospitals not to diagnose people with AIDS	事实上本市医院存在不诊断人们染上艾滋的动机
[04:39]	And therefore, people don’t get treated	从而人们就得不到救治
[04:42]	We are angry at the way this city has handled this crisis	我们对这个城市处理这场危机的方式感到愤怒
[04:45]	And we demand that Ed Koch exert leadership	我们要求爱德・考奇发挥领导力
[04:49]	And declare a state of emergency	宣布本市进入紧急状态
[04:53]	Go in the street now or wait	要不去大街上要不等着
[04:55]	Those are the options	两个选择
[04:56]	One, he says go. Go now	一个他说走走
[04:59]	Says now, three	走三个了
[05:01]	Tom?	汤姆?
[05:01]	Go now, Tom says	汤姆说现在走
[05:03]	We’re standing here with Larry Kramer	站在我们身旁的是拉里・克雷默
[05:04]	What is Act Up trying to say today to Ed Koch?	今天”行动起来”想对爱德・考奇说什么?
[05:07]	We’re sending a message to public officials, to closeted public officials	我们要让那些公职人员深柜官员知道
[05:10]	That we won’t be shat on anymore	我们不会再对狗屎忍气吞声
[05:13]	And obviously All the AIDS issues	显然这包括所有艾滋议题
[05:14]	I would love to see like, more cameras or something	我希望能看到更多媒体镜头什么的
[05:17]	You know, for our own protection	为保护我们自己起见
[05:18]	Did everyone hear his concern?	大家听到他的焦虑了吗?
[05:20]	People die every day, friends get sick every day	每天都有人死去朋友们病情加重
[05:22]	It’s like being in the trenches	就好像身处一条战壕
[05:24]	There’s such anger in the community	周围充满了愤怒
[05:26]	And it is coalescing in a way that has never been done before	正在形成一股从没有过的凝聚力
[05:31]	OK, which way do we face, girlfriends	好吧我们该走哪边姐妹们
[05:33]	This way or that way?	这边还是那边?
[05:40]	Healthcare is a right!	医疗健康是人权!
[05:42]	Healthcare is a right!	医疗健康是人权!
[05:44]	Healthcare is a right!	医疗健康是人权!
[05:46]	Healthcare is a right!	医疗健康是人权!
[05:47]	Healthcare is a right!	医疗健康是人权!
[05:49]	Healthcare is a right!	医疗健康是人权!
[05:51]	Healthcare is a right!	医疗健康是人权!
[05:53]	Healthcare is a right!	医疗健康是人权!
[05:54]	You are currently in violation of law by obstructing vehicular pedestrian traffic	你们目前妨碍车辆行人的行为已经触犯法律
[06:00]	You have the option of leaving at this time, otherwise…	你们可以选择马上离开否则…
[06:07]	Act Up!	行动起来!
[06:08]	Fight back!	还击回去!
[06:09]	Fight AIDS!	抗击艾滋!
[06:15]	Fight back!	还击回去!
[06:22]	Act Up!	行动起来!
[06:30]	Fight back! Fight AIDS!	还击回去! 抗击艾滋!
[06:44]	Act Up!	行动起来!
[06:45]	Fight back!	还击回去!
[06:48]	Fight back!	还击回去!
[06:49]	Fight AIDS!	抗击艾滋!
[06:50]	Fight for the dead!	为死者勇敢!
[06:57]	Fight back! Fight AIDS!	还击回去! 抗击艾滋!
[07:17]	I guess I’m feeling pretty helpless at the moment	我现在感到很无助
[07:19]	I think like, the biggest question that I’m facing now is	我觉得我面临的最大问题就是
[07:23]	How to remain hopeful in the face of increasing loss	怎么在…与日俱增的死亡中…仍保留希望
[07:31]	I don’t know, maybe it sounds really corny but I…	我不知道也许听上去很老套但…
[07:36]	As difficult as the time is for us	尽管对我们来说这是个艰难时代
[07:41]	I… like being alive	我仍然…喜欢活着的感觉
[07:44]	And I love my friends	而且我爱我的朋友
[07:47]	I love my family	而且爱我的家人
[07:49]	I love the people around me	我爱我周围的人
[07:51]	I’m going to die from this	我会因为这个而死掉
[07:53]	This isn’t going to be cured for	这个病治不好了
[07:55]	Years and years and years	在很多年很多年以内
[07:58]	Doctor’s office	医生办公室
[07:59]	Hi,it’s Peter Staley	嗨我是皮特・斯坦利
[08:01]	It’s like living in a war all around me	就像生活在一场战争包围中
[08:04]	Friends are dropping dead	朋友们一个个倒下
[08:07]	And you’re scared for your own life all at the same time	而你同时也在担心自己的生命
[08:13]	I was diagnosed with AIDS-Related complex	我被诊断有艾滋并发症时
[08:16]	While I was working as a bond trader on Wall Street	正在华尔街做一名债券交易员
[08:21]	I had night sweats	我晚上会盗汗
[08:22]	I began to get dry, patchy, scaly	皮肤开始变干长斑脱皮
[08:25]	Itchy skin on my face	脸部会痒
[08:27]	And I would get sick constantly	而且会不停的生病
[08:29]	Colds would lay me up for weeks	一个感冒就能让我躺一星期
[08:33]	I started to look around	我开始打探周围
[08:36]	In desperation for ways I could…	绝望的想找到可以…
[08:41]	Find treatments to…	治疗的办法…
[08:44]	Help save my life…	能保住我性命的…
[08:48]	And there was nothing coming out of our government’s efforts, I quickly realized	而我很快意识到我们的政府什么也不能提供
[08:59]	Everything I read said I had about two years to live	我读到的一切都说我只能再活两年
[09:02]	At most	最多
[09:07]	What do we want?	我们要什么?
[09:08]	A cure!	治疗方法!
[09:10]	When do we want it?	什么时候要?
[09:11]	Now!	现在!
[09:12]	What do we want?	我们要什么?
[09:13]	A cure!	治疗方法!
[09:14]	When do we want it?	什么时候要?
[09:15]	Now!	现在!
[09:16]	I was on my way to work	我在上班路上
[09:17]	And I got handed a flyer	收到一张传单
[09:19]	About Act Up and AIDS	关于”行动起来”和艾滋的
[09:21]	My mentor says	我的主管说
[09:23]	“If you ask me, I think they all deserve to die”	“假如你问我看法我觉得他们都该死”
[09:25]	“Because they took it up the butt”	因为他们都被操屁眼”
[09:28]	I was deeply closeted	我当时很深柜
[09:30]	And I had to just stew about it for the rest of the day	那天剩下的时间里我都在愤怒
[09:36]	I got myself to the very next Act Up meeting	我很快参加了”行动起来”第二次集会
[09:39]	They could just tap into that immediate anger	他们可以直接挖掘那种愤怒
[09:41]	And get stuff done	并且转化成行动
[09:48]	We will not leave until an administrator meets with us	我们不会离开直到有关方跟我们见面
[09:51]	And tells us that St. Vincent’s is willing to make a public statement	跟我们说圣文森医院愿意发布公开声明
[09:56]	Condemning gay and lesbian violence	谴责针对男女同性恋的暴力
[10:04]	All those in favor?	所有赞成的?
[10:08]	All those opposed?	所有反对的?
[10:14]	They’re coming!	他们来了!
[10:15]	You see them right there	你看到他们就在那儿
[10:16]	You’ve heard about Act Up	你们听说过”行动起来”
[10:17]	You’ve seen our flyers	你们看过我们的传单
[10:19]	The kiss-In happens tonight	公开接吻就在今晚
[10:21]	Act Up! Fight back! Make love!	行动起来! 还击回去! 表示爱!
[10:23]	Act Up!	行动起来!
[10:28]	I’ll deal with the cameras	我来处理摄像机
[10:29]	Are you the security guard that was beating people up?	你就是那个打人的保安吗?
[10:42]	Members of the mainstream media were thrown out as we were earlier on	一些主流媒体在早前直播中被驱逐出去了
[10:45]	But Steve Zabel and I came back in	但史蒂夫・扎贝尔和我回到现场
[10:48]	And we’re bringing you this exclusive footage	为你们带来这个独家片段
[10:49]	Don’t destroy property! You’re destroying property. Ok!	别搞破坏! 知道吗你们这是在破坏财物!
[10:52]	– Well, actually you damaged some human property last week – You damaged people	– 事实上你们上周也破坏了人身财物 – 打人
[10:54]	You will not beat up faggots	你不能打我们的玻璃
[10:56]	And you will not beat up on lesbians	你不能打我们的拉拉
[10:58]	In hospitals in our own community	而且是在我们的街区在这家医院里
[11:01]	Two gay women were beaten up	两个女同志被打了
[11:03]	And when her lover came to respond, you know the story	当她的爱人开始回应你们都看到了
[11:05]	And another story was when two gay guys came in	还有就是两个男同志走进医院
[11:07]	One was sick with AIDS	其中一个得了艾滋
[11:09]	The security guard told him to get the fuck out of here	保安跟他说滚他妈的出去
[11:11]	And called him “faggot”	叫他”死玻璃”
[11:13]	I think if you’re gonna work	我觉得假如你们想正常工作
[11:14]	Especially in Greenwich village	尤其是在格林威治村
[11:15]	You should have some sensitivity training	你们应该做一些敏感性训练
[11:17]	‘Cause we’re not gonna have it	因为我们不会提供给你们
[11:18]	I’m willing to meet with three people if the rest of you leave	我愿意和你们中的三个会谈假如其他人离开
[11:22]	OK, one at a time, one at a time	一次一个人一次一个人
[11:24]	It’s unclear how to play it	我们还不知道规则是什么
[11:25]	My own instinct would be to say	我的直觉会说
[11:27]	We’ll be glad to meet with you and when the meeting’s over, we’ll leave	我们很高兴和你会谈等会谈结束后我们会走
[11:30]	Not to leave before the meeting takes place	而不是在会谈前就离开
[11:33]	Gregg?	格雷格? 我们已经体现了我们的能量
[11:33]	We’ve shown the kind of power we can have	格雷格? 我们已经体现了我们的能量
[11:35]	By immediate action, by sticking together, by reaching a consensus together	通过迅速行动团结一致形成共识
[11:38]	We should take this in steps and we should be cool-Headed	现在应该放慢节奏保证头脑冷静
[11:40]	I’m going to take a straw poll, Ok?	我要做一个民意表决好吗?
[11:42]	And we agreed to leave the waiting room	我们同意离开等待室
[11:45]	While he met with three of our representatives	当他和我们的三位代表
[11:48]	Gregg, Gerry and Neil, in that public space right there	格雷格盖瑞和尼尔在那边的公共区域会谈
[11:51]	And then we would stick around out here	我们会在这儿坚守和等待
[11:54]	And wait to see what the outcome was	等待会谈结果
[11:57]	So I said, “enough of this, this job is gonna kill me”	于是我说 “我受够了这份工作会要了我的命”
[12:00]	So, I went on disability	所以我申请因病离退
[12:03]	And decided to become a full-Time AIDS activist	成为了一名全职艾滋活动家
[12:28]	In the beginning	一开始的时候
[12:30]	What drugs did we have?	我们有什么药呢?
[12:31]	We had nothing	什么也没有
[12:33]	And the pneumonia could come on like that, and be gone	肺炎可以这样说来就来说走就走
[12:37]	And that person is dead	而病人也这样死了
[12:41]	The skin lesions, the kaposi’s sarcoma was…	像皮肤坏死还有卡波氏肉瘤… (艾滋伴生疱疹病毒)
[12:46]	People would be coming in with a purple spot	就医的人们身上会带着紫色斑点
[12:49]	Everybody was coming in with	每个人进来都会问
[12:51]	“What is this spot? What is that spot?”	“这个斑点是什么? 那个斑点是什么?”
[12:53]	You’d have some guys come in with K.S. On their face	你会看到有人走进来脸上长着卡波氏肉瘤
[12:56]	And they’d be putting make up on their face and they’d be…	脸上化着浓妆他们…
[13:01]	And they were lucky	而他们还是幸运的
[13:04]	If it just stayed in the skin	因为病毒只是留在脸部皮肤
[13:06]	If it didn’t go into their longs	没有进入他们的肺
[13:07]	And then if it went into their lungs, chemo didn’t work	假如病毒进入他们的肺化疗也不会管用
[13:10]	And then they were gone	他们很快就死了
[13:12]	You were grasping at straws for everything	你会抓住每根救命的稻草
[13:15]	Because these are young, vibrant people	因为他们是那么年轻有活力的人们
[13:20]	And all of a sudden they’re being snatched	而突然间一个响指就没了
[13:23]	I think everything has to be put in perspective	我认为每件事都要从长远角度来看
[14:03]	Larry?	拉瑞?
[14:14]	Iris Long is lifesaving	艾瑞斯・朗是救命天使
[14:18]	If you can’t hear in the back	假如你们在后面听不见
[14:19]	And you want to, just shout it out, please	大声喊出来谢谢
[14:26]	This is a report from the American Society of Microbiology	这是一份来自美国微生物协会的报告
[14:31]	A conference I went to at the end of May	我在五月末参加的一次会议上的
[14:35]	Quiet!	安静!
[14:36]	There were many infections talked about including AIDS at this conference	这次会议讨到了很多传染病包括艾滋病在内
[14:42]	And it was overwhelming to know	我们会很震惊的发现
[14:44]	How many pathogens, bacteria, fungus	有多少病原体细菌真菌
[14:50]	Protozoas and viruses there are out there	原生生物和病毒存在于世
[14:54]	That can really make you very sick…	会让你们病得很重…
[15:01]	One day this woman just showed up	有一天这个女人突然出现
[15:02]	This housewife who had been a scientist and still was	一位家庭主妇曾经是科学家并且依然是
[15:06]	And said, you guys don’t know diddly about what this is	她说你们对这玩意儿一无所知
[15:10]	And anybody who wants to learn about the system, how it works	任何人要想学习这个体制怎么运作
[15:15]	How grants are made, how the science works	经费怎么调转科学怎么作用
[15:18]	How everything works, how the N.I.H. Works	一切运作流程全国卫生研究所的
[15:21]	How the F.D.A. Works	食品药物管理局的
[15:22]	How you can deal with all this enormous amount of material	怎么应付这一大堆的文书材料
[15:26]	I’ll teach you”	我可以教你们”
[15:27]	There should be much more funding than there is for infectious diseases	对传染疾病投入资金应该比现在的要多得多
[15:32]	Iris was not gay	艾瑞斯不是同志
[15:34]	But she could not see	但她无法忍受
[15:36]	With what was going on around her	当她周围正在发生这样的事
[15:38]	And what she knew not reaching out to the affected communities of AIDS	而她的所知所学无法传达到受感染的艾滋群体中
[15:45]	I waited and went up to Iris afterwards and said	我等到集会结束走到艾瑞斯面前说
[15:48]	“I’m interested in what you were saying”	“我对你说的感兴趣”
[15:50]	“I’d like to know more, I’d like to help”	“我想了解更多我想尽一份力”
[15:53]	And a few people joined her	有几个人加入她
[15:56]	And that became a bigger and bigger group	然后队伍越来越壮大
[15:57]	And that became the Treatment and Data Committee	最后发展成为”治疗和数据委员会”
[16:00]	T&D
[16:01]	They’re still getting a hell of a lot more money	他们手握着多得多的钱
[16:03]	Than actually getting those treatments in…	跟用于治疗的相比…
[16:05]	It was kind of a dorky activity	这类活动很无趣
[16:07]	For a bunch of East Village hipsters And artists	对一群东村嬉皮客还有艺术家来说
[16:10]	To sit around reading medical journal articles	坐在那儿阅读医学期刊文章
[16:13]	We called it science club like it was chess club or something	我们管它叫科学俱乐部像象棋俱乐部那样的
[16:16]	There aren’t drugs	没有治疗的药物
[16:19]	Individual after individual had to come to grips with the fact that	一个接一个的人必须学着接受一个现实
[16:24]	“I will survive the longest	就是要想活得尽可能久
[16:26]	The most I know about what I’m putting into my body	就必须尽可能的了解自己要注射什么
[16:30]	So they all had to be become scientists, to some degree	所以某种程度上他们都变成了科学家
[16:34]	And what I’d like everyone to do is	我希望所有人做的是
[16:35]	To keep on thinking of ways to refine these things	继续思考如何修改这些材料
[16:37]	To make them more clear to people that don’t necessarily know these issues	让那些不一定了解这些的人感到通俗易懂
[16:41]	Like, ‘O.I.’, no one knows what ‘O.I.’ Is	比如 “O.I.” 没人知道”O.I.”是什么 (氧指数)
[16:43]	OK, so I wrote it here, just ’cause it’s shorthand	所以我在这儿写明因为它是缩写
[16:45]	Only 17% of people in their trials	只有17%参与实验治疗的人
[16:48]	Have been taking drugs for opportunistic infections or cancers…	因为机会性感染或癌症有服用过药物…
[16:51]	Mark wasn’t like the big, beefcakey guy	马克不是那种健硕肌肉男
[16:53]	He was super smart, smoked nonstop	他超聪明的是大烟枪
[16:57]	Right away, Mark digested, as by osmosis, everything	很快的马克就像海绵一样吸收所有的知识
[17:03]	And within a few weeks	没过几周
[17:04]	He had come up with a glossary of AIDS treatment terms	他就想出了一些艾滋治疗的专业术语
[17:09]	And we started giving it out in our meetings	然后我们开始在会议中推广这些术语
[17:16]	Next we have an announcement by Tom Dwayne regarding housing	接下来是汤姆・德维恩关于住房问题的演说
[17:20]	This is Bernard Braverman who’s in danger of being evicted	这是伯纳德・布雷德曼他现在正面临被逐出公寓的命运
[17:24]	From his apartment that he shared with his life partner for many, many years	那栋公寓他和他的终生伴侣已经住了很多很多年
[17:28]	His life partner died	他的伴侣去世了
[17:29]	And the landlord wants Bernard out of his home	房东想让伯纳德搬出他的住所
[17:32]	Because his name was not on the lease	因为租约上不是他的名字
[17:35]	What’s his landlord’s address?	告诉我们他的房东住哪儿?
[17:39]	There are cards here to fill out to write to the governor	这里有写给州长的请愿卡片
[17:42]	Let’s make sure our voices are heard in New York city	我们想确保纽约市听到我们的声音
[17:45]	To save the homes of P.W.A.S and other non-Traditional families	拯救那些艾滋携带者和非传统家庭们的住所
[17:49]	Thank you	谢谢
[18:01]	I just want to say something about what’s just happened	我只想对刚才的事发表一下看法
[18:03]	I’ve realized we haven’t done anything yet for him	我觉得我们目前没能为他做任何事
[18:06]	And we haven’t been effective and we haven’t been powerful	我们没有变得更高效没有变得更强大
[18:09]	But we will be	但我们会的
[18:10]	It’s very inspiring to know that	一个鼓舞人心的发现是
[18:12]	The power in this room is potentially available to each and every one of us	这个房间存在着可以帮到我们每个人的潜能
[18:21]	One, two, three…	一二三…
[18:28]	Good?	好玩吗?
[18:30]	How’s it? Is that as good as daddy’s or better?	什么感觉? 和爸爸一样还是比爸爸更好?
[18:33]	You’re better	你更好
[18:34]	Yay!	耶!
[18:36]	Would you like daddy to try it?	要不要爸爸来试试?
[18:38]	Are you ready?	准备好了?
[18:45]	That’s not very good	这个可不好哦
[18:49]	One, two, three	一二三
[18:52]	I know this sounds ironic	我知道这听起来很讽刺
[18:54]	Considering that it ended in divorce	考虑到我们以离婚收尾
[18:56]	But I think it is fair to say	但我觉得可以这么说
[18:59]	It is the only really successful love affair of my life	那是我这辈子唯一成功的一次恋爱
[19:09]	I came out at age 40	我在40岁时出柜
[19:11]	It was very bad timing to come out in the middle of an epidemic	时机选得非常糟我在艾滋大流行时出柜
[19:16]	The question is what does a decent society do	问题是一个文明社会要怎么对待
[19:19]	With people who hurt themselves because they’re human?	那些因为是人而伤害了自己的人?
[19:21]	Who smoke too much, who eat too much, who drive carelessly	他们可能抽太多烟暴饮暴食疏忽驾驶
[19:23]	Who don’t have safe sex	做爱不注意安全
[19:25]	I think the answer is that a decent society	我觉得答案是一个文明社会
[19:27]	Does not put people out to pasture	不该让人们自生自灭
[19:29]	And let them die because they’ve done a human thing	就因为他们做了凡人做的事而由着他们去死
[19:42]	For the first time today	今天是有史以来第一次
[19:43]	The government approved prescription sales of a drug to treat AIDS	政府批准了治疗艾滋药物的凭处方购买
[19:47]	The drug, A.Z.T. Is not a cure for the disease	叠氮胸苷并不能治愈艾滋病
[19:50]	But it has prolonged the lives of some AIDS victims	但它可以延长某些艾滋病人的寿命
[19:53]	It’s the only government-Approved AIDS drug in America	这是美国唯一承认的抗艾滋药物
[19:56]	But even this most promising of drugs	但即便这种寄予厚望的药物
[19:58]	Is a source of frustration and anger	也成为绝望和愤怒的源头
[20:01]	At $10,000 a year cost per patient	一位患者每年要花费一万元
[20:04]	It’s prohibitively expensive for most and not widely available	对多数人来说尤为昂贵而且往往无法获取
[20:08]	Out of the bars and into the streets!	走出酒吧走上街!
[20:11]	Out of the bars and into the streets!	走出酒吧走上街!
[20:13]	A.Z.T. Was the most expensive drug in history	叠氮胸苷是有史以来最昂贵的药物
[20:15]	They charge $10,000 a year	他们一年要收一万块
[20:18]	We need to get a substantial price reduction out of this company	我们需要制药商大幅度的降低售价
[20:22]	The incident began at 10 this morning	本次事件始于今早10点
[20:24]	When four AIDS activists took over an office at Burroughs Wellcome	四位艾滋人士占领了韦尔康公司一间办公室
[20:28]	Saying they had enough food and water to stay holed up for a long time	声称他们拥有足够长久驻扎的的水和食物
[20:32]	The activists are demanding that Burroughs Wellcome lower its price of A.Z.T	活动家要求韦尔康公司降低叠氮胸苷的售价
[20:37]	Burroughs Wellcome is profiting off of our lives	韦尔康从我们的生命里榨取利润
[20:40]	That’s why we did today what we did	所以才有我们今天的举动
[20:43]	And, if they don’t see to start listening	假如他们不能开始聆听
[20:46]	To my community, to our community, the AIDS community	我的群体我们的群体艾滋群体
[20:50]	Then we’re gonna be back	我们还会再回来
[21:35]	One of the worst, worst things	最糟最糟的事
[21:38]	Was when people died in the hospital	是当有人死在医院
[21:41]	They used to put them in black trash bags	人们会把他们放进黑色垃圾袋
[21:48]	It was…	那真是…
[21:51]	It was really awful	真的很恶劣
[21:53]	And not every funeral parlor would take patients	而且并不是所有殡仪馆都肯接受这些病人
[21:59]	Who had died of AIDS	死于艾滋的人
[22:01]	But so the least we could offer is sympathy and moral support, you know	至少我们可以给予同情和道德支持
[22:08]	And kindness, and so forth	还有友善这些的
[22:11]	And that they deserved, in any case	任何情况下这都是他们应得的
[22:14]	And when even that became denied, you know	而当这些都被剥夺你知道
[22:17]	By the totalitarian rules of organizations, of institutions	被那些推行极权主义的团体或机构
[22:23]	It was really horrifying	就真的很可怕了
[22:27]	It is the most frightening medical mystery of our times	这是我们现代最骇人的医学之谜
[22:30]	AIDS victims must deal with the trauma of being both a patient and a pariah	艾滋患者必须自己承受同时身为病人和异类的痛苦
[22:35]	I hate to use the word “gay” in connection with sodomy	我憎恶把”快乐”这个词和鸡奸联系在一起 (Gay的本意)
[22:42]	There’s nothing gay about these people	这些人没有什么快乐的
[22:44]	Engaging in incredibly offensive and revolting conduct	他们从事的是极度污秽和恶心的行为
[22:48]	That has led to the proliferation of AIDS	正是他们导致了艾滋的流行
[22:51]	There is a feeling among members of any of a number of professions	在相当数量的任何专业人士中
[22:57]	Or just the general population	或仅仅是大众有一种想法
[22:59]	That patients with AIDS	就是艾滋患者
[23:02]	Many of whom are homosexual, are a little bit different	其中许多是同性恋的他们存在着什么不同
[23:05]	I think that that has led to a little bit of a complacency	而这导致了在对待艾滋的态度上
[23:08]	About the approach towards this disease	有的人会有傲慢心态
[23:13]	In the absence of adequate health care	由于缺少足够医疗保健
[23:15]	We have learned to become our own clinicians	我们学习成为了自己的临床医生
[23:17]	Researchers, lobbyists, drug smugglers, pharmacists	研究员游说家药品贩子和药剂师
[23:20]	We have our own libraries, newspapers, drug stores, and laboratories	我们有了自己的图书馆报纸药店和实验室
[23:24]	Some of the medications that were made available were not effective	有的收集到的药物并不怎么奏效
[23:28]	They were in this category that we called “what the hell” drugs	它们属于我们称之为”管他妈的”药物
[23:30]	Which is there’s some evidence it could be useful	就是说它们可能会有什么效果
[23:33]	It’s unlikely to be harmful	但基本不可能有坏处
[23:35]	What the hell	管他妈的
[23:36]	Should I type?	我要打字吗?
[23:39]	Yes, type	嗯打吧
[23:44]	Take your time	慢慢来
[23:45]	Where are we?	我们在哪儿?
[23:47]	We’re at the People With AIDS Health Group	我们在艾滋携带者健康组织
[23:49]	The largest underground buyers’ club in the United States	全美最大的地下药物买家
[23:54]	And what do you do here?	你们在这儿做什么?
[23:55]	We help people import drugs from other countries	我们帮人们从别的国家进口药物
[23:59]	That are unapproved here	那些国内禁止的药
[24:01]	Peptide T, albendazole, oral amphotericin B	T型肽阿苯达唑口服两性霉素B
[24:05]	We have a whole variety of things for your treatment pleasure	我们有各种各样的药供您治疗享用
[24:11]	None of which work, by the way	顺便说没一种有效的
[24:13]	Put that in	把这个剪进去
[24:15]	People with AIDS, what they were mostly thinking about	患有艾滋的人他们想得最多的是
[24:18]	Was Oh, drugs, how do I get it off-Market?	噢药我要怎么在地下市场买到药?
[24:22]	How do I…	我要怎么…
[24:23]	Will we ever get a black market for this drug?	我们会有这种药的黑市吗?
[24:25]	I hear this is good and…	我听说这种药不错…
[24:27]	It was Iris who helped us see	是艾瑞斯帮我们意识到
[24:29]	We don’t want a… black market	我们不想要…一个黑市
[24:33]	We want to make the real market work	我们想要现有的市场发挥作用
[24:37]	Try it	试试
[24:50]	Hi, I’m Mark Harrington from Act Up New York	嗨我是纽约”行动起来”的马克・哈林顿
[24:53]	Recently, a lot of activists have been asking why Act Up is going…	最近有很多活动人士问为什么”行动起来”…
[24:58]	Uh, you’ve got to start over	你得重新来一遍
[24:59]	I’ve gotta do that… I’ve gotta do that over	我得…重新来一遍
[25:00]	You can just start yourself over	你可以自己重新开始
[25:02]	But I did… But I won’t get that wonderful cigarette lighting thing	但我…但我没法再做点烟的帅姿势了
[25:04]	I think the cigarette maybe is not going to work	我觉得点烟那个没什么效果
[25:07]	I shouldn’t use the cigarette at all?	我不应该点烟吗?
[25:09]	Really?	真的?
[25:09]	I don’t think so, it’s too, um… too much	真的我不觉得有点…有点过
[25:12]	Too much?	有点过?
[25:18]	Hi, I’m Mark Harrington from Act Up New York	嗨我是纽约”行动起来”的马克・哈林顿
[25:20]	A lot of people have been asking why are AIDS activists going to the F.D.A.?	最近很多人问为什么”行动起来”的人会去找药管局?
[25:24]	First of all, you have to understand that	首先你们需要明白
[25:26]	The F.D.A. Is one of the many federal AIDS Bureaucracies	药管局是联邦众多管理艾滋的机构之一
[25:28]	Which we’re angry with for not doing enough in the fight against AIDS	而我们对它们在对抗艾滋中做得不够感到愤怒
[25:31]	Half the people who take A.Z.T. Can’t take it ’cause of Side effects	有半数服用叠氮胸苷的人因为副作用不能再服用
[25:34]	And therefore The F.D.A.	因此药管局
[25:36]	Has to take a more activist stance in the experimental process	必须在药物实验过程中持更积极的态度
[25:39]	And only the F.D.A. Has the power under existing laws and regulations	在目前法律法规下也仅有药管局有权
[25:43]	To release the drugs that we want released now	投放我们现在亟需投放的药
[25:46]	How’s that?	这次怎么样?
[25:49]	A.Z.T. Is not enough!	叠氮胸苷远不够!
[25:51]	Give us all the other stuff!	给我们其他可用药!
[25:53]	A.Z.T. Is not enough!	叠氮胸苷远不够!
[25:55]	Give us all the other stuff!	给我们其他可用药!
[25:57]	A.Z.T. Is not enough!	叠氮胸苷远不够!
[25:59]	Give us all the other stuff!	给我们其他可用药!
[26:01]	It takes nine months to test a drug in Europe	在欧洲一种药物的测试只要9个月
[26:04]	In Belgium, in France, in Germany, in England	在比利时法国德国英国
[26:07]	We are not asking the F.D.A. To release dangerous drugs	我们不是要求药管局发放危险药物
[26:12]	Without safety or efficacy	不计安全或效果
[26:14]	We are simply asking the F.D.A. To do it quicker	我们只要求他们加快进度
[26:19]	Drugs for sale!	让药发售!
[26:20]	Drugs for sale!	让药发售!
[26:22]	Dextran sulfate for sale!	发售硫酸葡聚糖!
[26:24]	Get your dextran here	来这儿领葡聚糖
[26:25]	You can’t get it inside	里面买不到
[26:29]	But we’re selling it anyway	但我们还是要卖
[26:31]	$30 for dextran sulfate!	硫酸葡聚糖只要30块!
[26:35]	Release the drugs now!	发放药物就现在!
[26:37]	Release the drugs now!	发放药物就现在!
[26:39]	Release the drugs now!	发放药物就现在!
[26:41]	Get to work, get to work!	行动行动!
[26:43]	Get to work, get to work!	行动行动!
[26:46]	Guilty, guilty, guilty!	有罪有罪有罪!
[26:48]	Guilty, guilty, guilty!	有罪有罪有罪!
[26:53]	Seize control, seize control!	夺取掌控夺取掌控!
[26:55]	Seize control, seize control!	夺取掌控夺取掌控!
[26:58]	Keep it moving!	保持前进! 保持前进!
[26:58]	Keep it moving!	保持前进! 保持前进!
[27:00]	Seize control!	夺取掌控!
[27:01]	Seize control, seize control…	夺取掌控夺取掌控…
[27:04]	Fight AIDS!	抗击艾滋!
[27:05]	Act Up!	行动起来!
[27:05]	Fight back!	还击回去! 抗击艾滋!
[27:06]	Fight AIDS!	还击回去! 抗击艾滋!
[27:11]	Seize control!	夺取掌控!
[27:13]	Seize control, seize control!	夺取掌控夺取掌控!
[27:14]	Seize control	夺取掌控!
[27:16]	Seize control, seize control!	夺取掌控夺取掌控!
[27:23]	Seize control!	夺取掌控!
[27:48]	Tell us why you got arrested	告诉我们你为什么被捕
[27:50]	Where are they taking you, what’s going on today?	他们要带你去哪儿? 发生了什么?
[27:52]	We don’t know what’s… where they’re taking us	我们不知道…他们要带我们去哪儿
[27:53]	We’re here because this government has the resources	我们来这儿是因为这个政府有资源
[27:56]	To deal with the AIDS epidemic	对抗艾滋危机
[27:57]	And they won’t do it unless we force them	但他们不肯行动除非我们迫使他们
[28:00]	I.J. Hutchins reports live from Rockville	记者I.J.哈坎斯在罗克维尔市为您现场报道
[28:01]	Where the massive protest is wrapping up… I.J.?	大规模抗议游行正临近尾声 I.J.?
[28:04]	Well, Jim, it’s Being billed as one of Montgomery county’s	吉姆这可以说是蒙哥马利郡
[28:07]	Biggest demonstrations in recent history	近年来发生的最大规模游行
[28:08]	And it went off smoothly	而且进行得很顺利
[28:10]	185 arrests	有185人被捕
[28:11]	As a coalition of gay groups came to Rockville to shut down the F.D.A	作为同性恋组织成员他们来到罗克维尔封锁了药管局
[28:19]	Tonight, from Washington, “Crossfire”	今晚华盛顿 “火力交叉”节目
[28:21]	Against all odds	你意想不到的
[28:23]	On the left, Tom Braden	在左方是汤姆・布莱登
[28:25]	On the right, Pat Buchanan	在右方是帕特・布坎南
[28:27]	In the crossfire, Peter Staley	坐在交火处的是皮特・斯坦利
[28:29]	Of the New York AIDS coalition to unleash power	来自要求释放权利的纽约艾滋病联盟
[28:32]	Peter staley, you have the AIDS virus, and I am sorry	皮特・斯特利对你带有艾滋病毒我感到抱歉
[28:37]	But don’t you think that	但你难道不觉得
[28:39]	The Federal Drug Administration has a responsibility	联邦药物管理局担有义务
[28:44]	Not to let people, such as you have quacks	不让你这样的人们误信庸医
[28:49]	That could cause even more harm than you already have?	从而导致受到的痛苦比现在的还多吗?
[28:53]	The problem is, is that	真正的问题是
[28:55]	The FDA is using the same process to test a nasal spray	药管局采用和批准喷鼻剂同样的流程
[28:59]	As it is to test AIDS drugs	来检测艾滋药物
[29:01]	And it’s a 7-10 year process	而这个过程要7-10年
[29:04]	You have the F.D.A. Giving you a drug	你们已经得到了药管局的药
[29:07]	So far, you’ve got A.Z.T	目前你们已经拿到了叠氮胸苷
[29:09]	– Why… – Which I can’t take	– 为什么… – 我不能用
[29:10]	Because it’s too… far too toxic	因为太…毒性太大了
[29:12]	And over half the people that have HIV can’t take	而且超过一半的艾滋病人都无法使用
[29:14]	OK, but the F.D.A. Says	好吧但药管局说了
[29:17]	There is nothing else…	没有其他的…
[29:19]	That is worth anything	其他的都没有效用
[29:22]	Mr. Staley, this is gonna astonish you	斯坦利先生你可能会感到惊讶
[29:23]	But I agree with you a hundred percent	但我百分之百赞同你
[29:25]	I think if someone’s got AIDS	我认为假如有人得了艾滋
[29:26]	And someone wants to take a drug, it’s their life	有人想使用药物那是他们的生命
[29:28]	And if it gives them hope, you ought to be able to take it	假如它能带来希望那人们就有权利使用
[29:31]	What I want to ask you is	我想问的是
[29:32]	Whether you know of anything that you think might be	你是否认为可能存在
[29:35]	Some kind of miraculous cure	某种有奇迹疗效的药物
[29:37]	That you think they’re sitting on at F.D.A?	你觉得可能被药管局束之高阁的?
[29:39]	There are over 140 drugs out there	存在超过140种药物
[29:41]	That the F.D.A. Has identified as possibilities	药管局将它们识别为带可能性的
[29:45]	And are in some stage of being looked at right now	而且有的目前正处在各种观察阶段
[29:48]	– Why are they holding back? – Among that 140	– 那为什么他们要观察? – 在140种药物中
[29:50]	There’s gotta be one or a combination thereof	一定有一种或与几种的组合
[29:53]	That can, that can slow down this virus	可以可以放缓这个病毒
[29:56]	Or halt it in its tracks	或中止它恶化的
[29:57]	You’re just simply carrying the virus, is that correct?	你只是艾滋的携带者对吗?
[30:00]	I have a few very minor symptoms	我有一些轻微的症状
[30:02]	And my immune system is virtually shot	我的免疫系统事实上已受到攻击了
[30:05]	What would you like to take?	那想要想要什么药?
[30:06]	I would like to be able to Take dextran sulfate… legally	我想用硫酸葡聚糖…而且是合法使用
[30:09]	– How would that hurt you? – On the underground right now	– 会有什么伤害? – 它目前是地下的
[30:12]	Well, why not, Mr. Braden?	为什么是地下的布莱登先生?
[30:13]	Because… well, I don’t know anything about dextran sulfate	因为…呃我不知道硫酸葡聚糖是什么
[30:16]	Well, I’ll tell you this	我可以告诉你
[30:17]	It’s an over-The-Counter drug in Japan	在日本这种药可以柜台购买
[30:19]	And has been for 20 years	而且已经有20年了
[30:21]	– Over-The-Counter! – In Japan?	– 柜台购买! – 在日本?
[30:22]	But if the F.D.A. Says…	但如果药管局说…
[30:24]	I’m only asking that they be released after there’s a minimal amount of efficacy	我只想要求它们同意投放哪怕只有微小疗效的
[30:29]	Not a 100% test	不用等到100%的测试
[30:32]	You’ve got the pink triangle on your shirt	你的衬衫上有个粉红的三角形
[30:34]	That’s correct	没错
[30:35]	I gather that means you’re a homosexual	我想这是代表你是个同性恋者
[30:37]	– Yes – Looking in the Camera	– 是的 – 看着镜头
[30:39]	What would you tell some kid	你会向孩子们说什么
[30:40]	Say you had a younger brother, 21 years old	假如你有一个21岁的弟弟
[30:42]	Who also might have homosexual tendencies	他也许也有同性恋倾向的
[30:45]	What would you tell him if you wanted him to live a long life?	你会对他们说什么假如你想他活得长久?
[30:48]	Use a condom, and also to use a lubricant by the way	使用安全套顺便说还要用润滑剂
[30:51]	– That has the medicine… – This is Russian roulette!	– 里面有种成分… – 你们拿生命轮盘赌吗!
[30:55]	It is not Russian roulette	这不是轮盘赌
[30:57]	It is Russian roulette to not give people this information	不告诉人们这样的信息才是拿生命开玩笑
[31:00]	When human nature dictates	当人的天性起作用
[31:02]	That they’re gonna go out there	人们一定会走出门
[31:03]	– And they’re gonna have sex – You mean celibacy is impossible?	– 也一定会做爱 – 你是说禁欲不可能?
[31:05]	It’s just not gonna work	禁欲不会管用
[31:06]	People aren’t gonna do it	人们不会那样做
[31:07]	And lots, lots of people are gonna die	而很多很多的人会死
[31:09]	Now would you rather have a lot of people cheating on their celibacy	你情愿看到很多人背叛禁欲
[31:13]	With thousands of people dying	成千上万的人死去
[31:15]	Or would you rather save those lives	还是希望挽救这些生命
[31:17]	And let them have sex?	从而允许他们做爱?
[31:18]	I think that, uh… well	我觉得呃…
[31:20]	Thank you very much, Peter Staley	非常感谢皮特・斯坦利
[31:21]	Thanks for being in our studio	感谢来到我们演播室
[31:23]	Mr. Braden and I will be back in a minute	布莱登先生和我会马上回来
[31:28]	One of the things we wanted, was a drug	我们想要的其中一种药物
[31:31]	That you gave to people who had cytomegalovirus and advanced AIDS	是可以给有巨细胞病毒和晚期艾滋病人使用的
[31:38]	Because people who had both tended to go blind	因为两者兼有的会逐渐失明
[31:42]	It was called D.H.P.G	那种药叫二羟基苯甘氨酸
[32:14]	In a way similar to A.Z.T	和叠氮胸苷一样
[32:16]	It was highly toxic, but it was known to be effective	它有很大毒性但据说有效
[32:19]	Because 6,000 people had already used the drug	因为有6,000人已经在使用这种药了
[32:23]	But never in a clinical trial	可是从没有过临床实验
[32:26]	Hey, hey, F.D.A.	嘿嘿药管局
[32:28]	How many people did you kill today?	你今天又杀了多少人?
[32:31]	We are with Jim Eigo from Act Up	我们在采访”行动起来”的吉姆.艾格
[32:33]	There’s a major protest going on here in Bethesda over the drug D.H.P.G	在贝塞斯达市正有一个关于二羟基苯甘氨酸的大型示威活动
[32:37]	Tell us what’s happening	跟我们讲讲事件经过
[32:38]	Well, this is the second meeting of the Bush commission	呃这是布什委员会的第二次会议
[32:41]	For reviewing procedures for approving AIDS and cancer drugs	关于艾滋和癌症药物批准程序的审查
[32:46]	And we thought, since the non-Approval of D.H.P.G	我们认为既然二羟基苯甘氨酸的未过审
[32:49]	Is such a perfect example of how regulation has gone wrong	最好的证明了规章可能错到什么地步
[32:53]	We’d bring it home to the commission itself	我们就把问题带到委员会大本营
[32:55]	By showing up here in force	通过现场施压的方式
[32:57]	And that’s what we’ve done	这就是我们在做的
[32:58]	OK, also inside at the hearing itself, and I understand	好另外里面也正在听证据我所知
[33:02]	There’s gonna be an action in just a little while when Ellen Cooper speaks	当艾伦・库帕讲话时很快会有人做出行动
[33:05]	I guess so	应该是
[33:08]	What about D.H.P.G.?	二羟基苯甘氨酸呢?
[33:10]	What about D.H.P.G.?	二羟基苯甘氨酸呢?
[33:14]	Without the objective data	没有客观的数据
[33:16]	We feel that we would indeed be on treacherous grounds	我们真的…感觉缺少牢固的依据…
[33:22]	In defending that decision	来支撑该决定
[33:24]	And in fact would be wide open to the charge of arbitrary decision-Making	事实上这将开启主观判断和放任决策的先例
[33:28]	Although, uh, we certainly wouldn’t ce accused of being inflexible	尽管我们显然也不愿被指责不懂变通
[33:32]	You did it with A.Z.T	你们在叠氮胸苷上就这么做了
[33:33]	I don’t see why you can’t do it with…	我不懂为什么不可以…
[33:36]	I mean, I have to say that	我必须说明
[33:37]	The difference in the data between A.Z.T. And D.H.P.G	叠氮胸苷和二羟基苯甘氨酸数据有差异
[33:41]	Is the difference between night and day, as far as…	就我所知是有天壤之别的…
[33:44]	Sight and blindness…	就像看见和失明一样吗…
[33:48]	You’re just as blind since this meeting’s started	从会议开始后你就失明了
[33:51]	And four more are gonna die before it’s over	在它结束前又会有四个人死
[33:54]	Who represents the patient on this panel?	哪个委员是代表病人的权利?
[33:55]	Where is the person of color on this panel?	代表其他肤色的委员又在哪儿?
[33:58]	F.D.A. Relooks at the D.H.P.G. Data and suddenly, oh!	药管局重新审视了二羟基苯甘氨酸数据突然间啊!
[34:03]	Agrees with Act Up	和”行动起来”达成了一致
[34:06]	Ready for a vote?	准备好投票了吗?
[34:09]	All in favor, raise your hand	同意的请举手
[34:13]	One, two…	一二…
[34:15]	Well, that’s everyone	噢所有人啊
[34:21]	It was really an amazing encounter	真的是次很了不起的会面
[34:22]	But it sort of felt like reaching, uh	感觉就像到达了嗯
[34:24]	The Wizard of Oz, like	“绿野仙踪”的奥兹
[34:25]	You’ve got to the center of the whole, of the whole system	就像进入了整个体制的核心区
[34:28]	And there’s just this schmuck behind a curtain	而窗帘背后的只是几个愣头青
[34:30]	There was no guiding agenda	没有指导议程
[34:32]	There was no leadership	没有意见领袖
[34:33]	There was no global strategy for how to deal with AIDS in the U.S	没有关于应对美国艾滋病情的整体策略
[34:38]	And so, on the bus back from Bethesda	所以在从贝塞斯达市回去的巴士上
[34:40]	We decided to write a treatment agenda	我们决定写一份治疗纲领
[34:42]	Because nobody was dealing with the entire map of AIDS	因为还没有人画出艾滋蔓延的全地图
[34:45]	The entire constellation of opportunistic infections	机会性感染的全部图谱
[34:47]	The gaps in research	研究空白
[34:48]	The underrepresented populations	被忽视的人口
[34:50]	The fact that the diseases and the drugs might be different in those populations	事实上疾病和药物对不同人口可能是不同的
[34:54]	How would we ever find out? They weren’t even being studied	我们要怎么去发现? 这些从未被研究过
[35:11]	Bye, Ron!	再见罗恩!
[35:13]	Bye, Bobby!	再见鲍比!
[35:16]	Come on Catherine, let’s go	来凯瑟琳走吧
[35:17]	It’s time to go	该走了
[35:19]	Yeah	嗯
[35:29]	Knows no borders!	关注无国界!
[35:30]	The AIDS crisis!	艾滋是危机!
[35:32]	Knows no borders!	关注无国界!
[35:34]	The AIDS crisis!	艾滋是危机!
[35:35]	Knows no borders!	关注无国界!
[35:37]	The AIDS crisis!	艾滋是危机!
[35:38]	Knows no borders!	关注无国界!
[35:40]	The AIDS crisis!	艾滋是危机!
[35:41]	Knows no borders!	关注无国界!
[35:43]	The AIDS crisis!	艾滋是危机!
[35:44]	Knows no borders!	关注无国界!
[35:47]	I’d just like to say that	我只想说
[35:48]	The reasons I can’t get any of these drugs is	我无法得到这些药物的原因
[35:50]	‘Cause for nine years now	是因为在过去的9年里
[35:52]	The leadership in this country has failed to come up with a plan of action	这个国家的领袖在拿出行动计划上是失败的
[35:57]	They’ve failed to come up with a plan of research a national research agenda	他们在制订全国研究日程规划上是失败的
[36:02]	People with AIDS and their advocates have finally done this for them	而艾滋病人和活动家替他们完成了这个工作
[36:07]	This is it	就是这个
[36:08]	This is the plan we’re presenting	这就是我们提供的纲领
[36:10]	We need our government to read this plan	我们希望政府能阅读这个规划
[36:12]	We need them to work with us	我们需要他们和我们一起共事
[36:14]	If they want to change it a little	假如他们肯做出小小的改变
[36:16]	We’ll talk to them	我们愿意和他们交谈
[36:17]	But I want them to adopt it	我希望他们能采纳
[36:19]	I want them to get started on it	我希望他们能开始行动起来
[36:20]	I want them to save our lives. Thank you	我想他们拯救我们的生命谢谢
[36:24]	I snuck around and grabbed uh, grabbed one of those copies	我四处打量抓到一张他们的传单
[36:28]	And it was very interesting	内容非常有意思
[36:30]	We believe that the United States has a global responsibility	我们认为美国应担起全球责任
[36:34]	To quickly develop effective treatments	加快有效治疗手段的研发
[36:35]	Not only for HIV infection itself	不仅包括艾滋病毒感染本身
[36:38]	But for all of the opportunistic infections	还包括所有的机会性感染
[36:40]	Which actually cause suffering and death in people living with AIDS	后者导致艾滋病人经历痛苦和死亡
[36:43]	This is not a new agenda	这不是一项新的议程
[36:45]	And it is not an agenda of only Act Up	也不只是”行动起来”的议程
[36:48]	Scientists agree with this	科学家们已经认可了
[36:49]	Why can’t we have it?	为什么我们不能采纳?
[36:50]	The researchers and regulators are going to have to come up with	研究人员和立法人员需要制订
[36:54]	A parallel release program	一个同步的发放计划
[36:56]	That will get drugs to the people who need it	让需要药物的人能及时获得它们
[36:58]	Before the five years down the pipe	而不是排上五年队
[37:00]	Where they may be approved by the F.D.A	去等待一个药管局可能的通过
[37:03]	I was scribbling madly in this copy of their AIDS treatment research agenda	我在他们的治疗研究议程上疯狂的勾划
[37:07]	I would go back and forth between saying	我不停在两者中摇摆一边是
[37:10]	“No, no! They, they don’t understand!”	“不不! 他们不懂!”
[37:12]	To saying, “whoa, you mean this isn’t the way we’re doing trials?”	一边是 “噢难道这不就是我们的实验做法吗?”
[37:16]	“You mean people aren’t allowed to do this or that?”	“你是说普通人就不允许做这做那?”
[37:19]	But I have to tell you that I was still not ready to sort of	但我必须说当时我还没准备好
[37:23]	Go up to them and try, try and engage	加入他们之中和他们一起工作
[37:26]	I brought this copy back	我带了一份议程回来
[37:27]	And I distributed it to a small group of statisticians	并且把它在小部分统计学家中发放
[37:30]	That was meeting regularly to talk about trial design issues	我们会定期碰头讨论试错实验的设计
[37:34]	The people sitting around that table	人们围着桌子坐成一圈
[37:36]	Got as excited as I did	和我一样兴奋
[37:38]	This had clearly been written by people who…	这明显是由一群…
[37:40]	Who were very knowledgeable, very, very intelligent	非常有知识非常聪明
[37:45]	And really wanted to do the trials the best possible way	而且真心想要以最可能方式开展实验的人写的
[37:48]	They were not against trials	他们并不反对实验
[37:49]	They wanted to get the right answers	他们想找到正确答案
[37:51]	But they wanted what they called “humane trials”	他们想要的用他们的说法是 “人体实验”
[37:54]	It all came together in Montreal	一切都上了轨道在蒙特利尔市
[37:57]	But what was new for Act Up	但对”行动起来”来说的新体验
[38:00]	We went to a drug company	是我们去了一家制药公司
[38:02]	There is renewed hope for people infected with AIDS	艾滋感染病人又有了一个新的希望
[38:04]	A new experimental drug, D.D.I	一种新试验型药物二脱氧次黄苷
[38:07]	Will be distributed on a limited basis for free this fall	将在今年秋天做限量的免费发放
[38:10]	By its developer, the giant Bristol-Myers company	开发人制药巨头百时美公司
[38:13]	This marks the first time An anti-AIDS drug will be available	这标志着第一次抗艾药物可以直接面向患者
[38:16]	Even before safety testing is finished	甚至在还未完成安全测试前
[38:18]	Full A.Z.T. Treatment is too much for patient Peter Staley	全叠氮胸苷疗法对病人皮特・斯坦利来说过于猛烈
[38:22]	For nine months, he’s been limited To a quarter-Dose of the drug	九个月来他已经将药量控制在1/4粒
[38:25]	And wants D.D.I. As soon as possible	他想尽快使用二脱氧次黄苷
[38:27]	Do you need D.D.I. To live, do you think?	你觉得你需要二脱氧次黄苷才能活下去吗?
[38:29]	Yes, I need, I need D.D.I	是的我需要我需要二脱氧次黄苷药物
[38:31]	I probably need some other anti-Virals beyond that	可能还需要其他的一些抗病毒药物
[38:34]	It is historic	这是历史性的
[38:36]	It is because The AIDS activist community has obtained this drug	因为艾滋群体提前获得了这个药物
[38:41]	It is not the government	不是靠政府
[38:42]	No one has given it to us	没人发放给我们
[38:44]	We have fought for it	我们自己争取到的
[38:45]	And for the first time, we have won	有史以来第一次我们赢了
[38:48]	So, by ’89, less than a year after our F.D.A. Demo	所以在1989年距药管局示威不到一年
[38:51]	They had approved a drug to prevent blindness in people with AIDS	他们批准了一种药物来防止艾滋患者失明
[38:54]	And we had gotten expanded access to D.D.I	我们也扩大了二脱氧次黄苷的获取途径
[38:57]	And that was a very powerful feeling	真的是很有力量的感觉
[39:00]	We felt like we were taking direct action	我们感到我们在直接行动
[39:02]	And we were helping make people’s lives better	我们在帮助人们活的更好
[39:08]	I wasn’t sure that A.Z.T. Or D.D.I. Were all that great	我不确定叠氮胸苷或二脱氧次黄苷有那么有效
[39:12]	But we were beginning to get letters from people	但我们开始收到人们来信
[39:14]	That said,” Thank you for saving my Eyesight,”	说 “谢谢你们拯救我的视力”
[39:16]	“For getting me access to D.D.I. And helping to save my life”	“谢谢你行动起来” “让我可以获得二脱氧次黄苷帮助拯救我的生命”
[39:27]	At Merck, HIV was an Important scientific target	在默克艾滋病毒是重要的科研对象
[39:33]	HIV, of course, is a virus	艾滋当然是一种病毒
[39:35]	In order for the virus to infect an uninfected cell	一个病毒要去感染还没被感染的细胞
[39:39]	It needs to construct itself in a particular way	它需要用一种特殊的方式组装自己
[39:44]	First, the viral RNA	首先病毒的RNA (核糖核酸)
[39:45]	Needs to transform itself into a DNA copy	需要将自己改变为DNA样本 (脱氧核糖核酸)
[39:49]	In order to knit itself into the nuclear DNA of the newly infected cell	才能向新感染的细胞加入自己的核DNA编码
[39:54]	This occurs by a process called Reverse Transcription	这个是通过叫”逆转录”的过程完成的
[39:58]	A.Z.T. And D.D.I.	叠氮胸苷和二脱氧次黄苷
[40:00]	Were both originally developed	最初开发的目的
[40:02]	To try to inhibit that process of establishing infection	都是试图抑制感染形成的过程
[40:07]	A number of other researchers	也有部分研究人员
[40:09]	Began to focus on another portion of the viral life cycle	开始聚焦病毒生命周期的另一环节
[40:12]	After the cell is already infected	即在细胞已经被感染后
[40:15]	One of the steps that it takes is that	整个感染过程中的一步
[40:17]	Is it makes a viral protein	是病毒会释放一种病毒蛋白
[40:21]	It has to snip that viral protein in very specific places	病毒蛋白会在特定的位置被剪断
[40:25]	The resulting pieces self-Assemble	产生的片段会自我组合
[40:29]	To make the viral particle	从而变成病毒微粒
[40:31]	And what does the snipping	而负责剪断的
[40:32]	And what in fact controls the snipping	事实上控制整个剪断过程的
[40:34]	Is a viral protein called the protease	是一种叫蛋白酶的病毒蛋白
[40:38]	If you genetically modify the viral protease	如果你对蛋白酶做基因重组
[40:41]	So that it can no longer snip	让它不再剪断
[40:42]	The virus no longer has the ability to make those component pieces	病毒就没有了制造片段的能力
[40:46]	That it needs to make in order to self-Assemble	而自我组合也就失去了基础
[40:48]	And make an infectious viral particle	从而不再成为带传染性的病毒颗粒
[40:52]	We solved the structure of HIV protease in 1989	我们在1989年破解了艾滋病毒的蛋白酶结构
[40:56]	And published it pretty quickly	而且很快就对外发布了
[40:58]	I think, I think we saw the structure	我认为我认为我们看到了整个结构
[41:00]	And within a few weeks it was in the Literature	在几周后它就成为了教科书内容
[41:03]	And then the question became	然后问题就变成
[41:04]	All right, can we prove it?	好吧我们能证明吗?
[41:05]	Can we prove it that is in fact the case?	我们能证明就是这样吗?
[41:07]	And most importantly, can we prove that	最重要的是我们能不能证明
[41:10]	If you inhibit that protease	假如你抑制了这个蛋白酶
[41:12]	If you knock out its activity	抽去它的活性
[41:14]	That the virus can no longer replicate	病毒就不会再复制了
[41:17]	And therefore make new progeny viral particles	从而就不会再制造新的病毒颗粒
[41:19]	That would then go on and establish a new cycle of infection	不会扩散和建立新的感染循环
[41:29]	Aids is now the leading cause of death for men under 44 in New York	艾滋已经成为44岁以下男子死亡的主要原因在纽约市
[41:32]	And a half-Dozen other cities	还有其他一些城市
[41:34]	Surpassing homicide and all other diseases	已经超过了自杀和其他所有疾病
[41:37]	Yet roman catholic bishops are meeting this week	然而罗马教会的主教本周召开集会
[41:39]	To publicly oppose the use of condoms	公开反对使用安全套
[41:42]	As morally unacceptable	称其在道德上难以接受
[41:44]	This puts them in direct opposition to U.S. Public health policy	这让他们与美国公共卫生政策直接相悖
[41:50]	The new church position condemns not only the immorality of condoms	教会新的表态不但谴责安全套的不道德
[41:54]	But their effectiveness, as well	并且质疑其有效性
[41:56]	The draft under consideration in Baltimore this week says, it is quote	本周在巴尔的摩考虑起草的草案中提到说
[42:00]	“A virtual certainty that”	“作为不争事实”
[42:02]	“Reliance on condoms will result in transmission of AIDS”	“对保险套的依赖将导致艾滋传播”
[42:07]	Of the bishop’s proposed new policy	对主教提出的新政策
[42:09]	New York city Health Commissioner Stephen Joseph says…	纽约市卫生专员斯蒂芬.约瑟夫说…
[42:12]	This would be a public health disaster	这将是一场公共健康大灾难
[42:14]	It would undoubtedly lead to more transmission	它无疑将引起更多传播
[42:18]	Particularly in high- Risk areas of the city	尤其是在城市的高风险区域
[42:21]	More disease and more death	更多人生病更多死亡
[42:22]	Catholic conservatives say not just physical death	保守天主教徒说不只肉体死亡
[42:26]	But spiritual death is at issue here	灵魂死亡也是当前的一个问题
[42:28]	As New York City’s archbishop	用纽约市大主教
[42:30]	John Cardinal O’Connor put it…	红衣约翰・欧康纳的话来说…
[42:32]	The use of prophylactics is immoral	使用避孕手段是不道德的
[42:35]	In a pluralistic society or any other society	无论在多元社会还是任何社会
[42:39]	I think that’s it, except…	就这些了除了…
[42:41]	Of course, we have Ann Northrop Giving her sound bite technique	当然我们还有安・诺斯罗普来教授她的原话传播理论
[42:54]	Uh ,we want everybody to join us	我们希望所有人加入我们
[42:58]	To support us	支持我们
[42:59]	To destroy the power of the catholic church	摧毁天主教会的权力
[43:02]	To make our side the strong one	让我们成为强大的一方
[43:05]	And to do that	为了做到以上
[43:07]	We must put out the message	我们必须将信息传递出去
[43:09]	That we are the ones who are fighting for people’s lives	我们才是为人们性命搏斗的人
[43:13]	And they are the murderers	而他们是杀人犯
[43:15]	Don’t be afraid of the media	不要害怕媒体
[43:18]	You’re talking through them to the public	你们是在通过它们与公众对话
[43:21]	We are trying to arouse	我们要试着唤醒
[43:24]	To anger an action	激发人们的行动
[43:26]	And hone it down to, yes	没错它们会被剪辑
[43:29]	A three-Second bite	三秒钟的片段
[43:30]	A five-Second bite	五秒钟的片段
[43:32]	Just a phrase that will have an impact	只要有一个词能产生影响
[43:35]	That will say something specific	能表达特定意思
[43:38]	And that will be understandable	并且能被理解的
[43:41]	So…	比如…
[43:51]	I don’t have a, uh, phrase worked out	我现在没有想到好的词汇
[43:54]	And, uh, so you’re all gonna have to create your own	你们得自己发挥想象力了
[43:57]	So this is Empowerment	这叫”授权”
[44:04]	Act Up!	行动起来!
[44:05]	Act Up!	行动起来!
[44:18]	Please, you’re interfering with us, step back	请退后你在妨碍我们
[44:20]	This is Jesus Christ	我是耶稣基督
[44:21]	I’m in front of St. Patrick’s Cathedral on Sunday	星期天我正站在圣帕特里克大教堂前
[44:24]	We’re here reporting on a major	我们正在现场报道一个大型的
[44:26]	AIDS activist and abortion-Rights activist demonstration	关于艾滋和堕胎权的示威游行
[44:29]	Which will be taking place here all morning	它将持续整个上午
[44:31]	Inside, Cardinal O’Connor is busy spreading	教堂内红衣主教欧康纳正忙着散布
[44:35]	His lies and rumors about the position of lesbians and gays	他各种关于男女同性恋的谎言和传闻
[44:39]	We’re here to say we want to go to heaven, too	我们要在这儿说我们也想进天堂
[44:59]	J.C. Here with the Fire and Brimstone Network	J.C. 和火焰硫磺网络组织在一起
[45:02]	And we’d like to ask you a little bit about	我们想问一下你们
[45:03]	This large vision that you’ve visited upon us	这个举在头上的大型物体是什么
[45:07]	Well, we’ve decided to rename the cardinal	噢我们决定为红衣主教重命名
[45:08]	He’s now Cardinal O’Condom	现在他叫红衣”欧套套”
[45:11]	This is our message to him	这是我们在向他传达信息
[45:12]	That condoms are safe, it’s no sin	避孕套是安全的不是什么罪
[45:43]	Stop killing us!	停止谋杀我们!
[45:45]	Stop killing us!	停止谋杀我们!
[45:47]	Stop killing us!	停止谋杀我们!
[45:49]	We’re not gonna take it anymore!	我们不会再忍受!
[45:51]	You’re killing us!	你是在谋杀我们!
[45:52]	Stop it!	停止!
[45:54]	Stop it!	停止!
[45:55]	Stop it!	停止!
[45:56]	Stop it!	停止!
[45:58]	Stop it, stop it!	停止! 停止!
[46:03]	How many more have to die?	还要死多少人才叫够?
[46:05]	How many more have to die?	还要死多少人才叫够?
[46:11]	Those protesting believe that	那些抗议者以为
[46:12]	The protests will result in some change of environment	这样的抗议会带来环境改变
[46:18]	Some change of attitudes, perhaps	一些可能的态度改变
[46:21]	The church will be teaching	但教会一直教导人们
[46:22]	That homosexual activity is sinful until the end of time	同性恋行为是罪恶直至世界终结
[46:27]	That won’t change	这是不会改变的
[46:34]	This is July 22nd, 1989	今天是1989年7月22日
[46:37]	Now Sara, what do you think about your dad being 44?	萨拉对爸爸满44岁你有什么要说?
[46:40]	Good	好啊
[46:43]	Thank you, thank you for your support	谢谢谢谢支持啊
[46:45]	One, two, three…	一二三…
[46:50]	Yay…	耶…
[46:54]	A lot of smoke	好多的烟啊
[46:55]	Oh, boy	噢天
[46:56]	I wish those candles would stop smoking	真希望这些蜡烛能戒烟
[46:58]	It’s bad for their health	吸烟有害健康啊
[46:59]	That’s right	说的好
[47:00]	OK, Robert Rafsky	好了罗伯特・拉夫斯基
[47:01]	Do you have any remarks before you jump off the edge of the porch?	在你跳进老人堆前还有什么想说的吗?
[47:04]	I have no interest in jumping off the edge of the porch	我一点儿也不想跳进老人堆
[47:07]	I will jump up and down	我会跳上跳下吧
[47:08]	I think 44 is a very fine age	我觉得44岁是个很好的年龄
[47:10]	It has a nice symmetry to it, it has a nice feeling to it	它很对称感觉也很好
[47:13]	It’s, uh, better than 22	比22岁好
[47:14]	And possibly better than 88	很可能好过88岁
[47:16]	We’ll see	我们走着瞧
[47:19]	Here’s how we planned this	这就是我们的打算
[47:21]	What we want to do is run this like a treatment and data meeting	我们想要这个会开得像治疗数据会议那样
[47:25]	A number of times we’ve had people come to a treatment and data meeting	已经有很多次我们让人们来治疗数据会议
[47:29]	And speak on certain issues	讲述具体的问题
[47:31]	We try to get in depth	现在我们试着深入一些
[47:33]	We try to nail issues down	试着锁定问题
[47:35]	This isn’t a free-For-All	这不是自由发言
[47:37]	Let’s call it a working confrontation	我们姑且叫它是对抗讨论
[47:40]	So, why don’t we start?	所以开始好不好?
[47:42]	This is Dr. Anthony Fauci	这位是安东尼・福西医生
[47:44]	Bob rafsky	这是鲍勃・拉夫斯基
[47:46]	I may be wrong, Dr. Fauci	我也许是错的福西医生
[47:47]	But it’s my understanding	但就我所知
[47:50]	That thousands of people died from pneumonia	曾经有成千上万人死于肺炎
[47:53]	Because there was no priority	因为缺少轻重缓急
[47:55]	Within the government or within the medical system as a whole	在政府内部或作为整体的医疗体系
[47:59]	To push the known preventative treatments for a long time	在很长时间里都没有推动已知的预防治疗
[48:03]	Now those thousands of people are dead	当成千上万的人死了
[48:06]	It would seem to me that someone, who was within the government	在我看来政府里的某些人
[48:10]	While that took place, as you were	在当年发生事件中是否类似的
[48:13]	Must have on their conscience these deaths?	应该对这些死难遭受良心的谴责?
[48:16]	That is a tough one, um…	这个问题很难回答…
[48:19]	No, it really is	不真的很难
[48:20]	It’s inexcusable that an academic priority	学术优先性无可原谅的
[48:23]	Should ever, ever come before the health of the people that you’re working with	在任何时候都不应凌驾于你们的健康之上
[48:27]	There’s no question about that	这一点是毫无疑问的
[48:28]	But the reality of the situation is	但事实情况是
[48:31]	There was a great reluctance	存在极大的不情愿
[48:35]	Among the community of everything from the scientists to the congress	在从科学家到国会的大范围内
[48:41]	Saying that what we should be doing is not telling investigators what to do	都说我们应该做的是不告诉调查者该做什么
[48:48]	But we should allow them to do what they feel is the most important	我们应该让他们做他们认为重要的
[48:52]	Now that sounds awful	听上去感觉很糟
[48:54]	When you’re putting it in the context of what we’re talking about here	当你把我们现在做的放入这个语境中
[48:58]	But the whole world isn’t in this room	但整个世界不只这个房间
[49:00]	Every 12 minutes Someone dies!	每12分钟就有人死!
[49:04]	Every 12 minutes Someone dies!	每12分钟就有人死!
[49:09]	AIDS activists stormed the government’s premiere disease research center	艾滋活动家在政府高等疾病研究中心掀起风暴
[49:14]	The national institutes of health is where an AIDS cure might be found	国家卫生研究所是艾滋治疗可能的诞生地
[49:17]	It is where therapies are being tested in clinical trials	各种疗法的临床试验也在那里进行
[49:20]	No more secret meetings. No more secret meetings…	拒绝秘密会议拒绝秘密会议…
[49:23]	Demonstrators blocked access to buildings	示威者堵住大楼入口
[49:26]	Scientists and administrators reporting to work stood around looking confused	签到打卡的科学家和行政人员都困惑的站在外面
[49:30]	Activists charged the Bush administration with foot-Dragging on AIDS research	活动人士谴责布什政府在艾滋研究上一拖再拖
[49:35]	It’s not the amount of federal money allocated to it	确定的研究优先次序
[49:37]	So much as how research priorities are defined	与联邦的资金拨款也不匹配
[49:40]	We need new drugs to keep people alive	我们需要新的药让人们活下去
[49:42]	But the NIH is only testing old drugs, drugs that we already have	但国家卫生研究所只测试旧药那些我们已有的药
[49:46]	Can you tell us what you’re doing?	能告诉我们你正做什么吗?
[49:47]	Hi, I’m Jim Jenson and I’m in a clinical trial here	嗨我是吉姆・杰森我正在做临床测试
[49:50]	And right now, I’m observing and participating in the Act Up demonstration	此刻我在观望和加入”行动起来”的示威活动
[49:55]	Why? Why do you support this action?	为什么? 为什么你支持它?
[49:57]	Because we need far more AIDS research	因为我们需要更多艾滋研究
[49:59]	And we’re just beginning	现在还只是开头
[50:01]	What trial are you in?	你在做什么临床测试?
[50:02]	I’m in Interleukin-2 A.Z.T. Combination study	白介素和叠氮胸苷的结合研究
[50:06]	Are there any women in your trial?	测试中有女性吗?
[50:07]	No, there aren’t any women at all	不一位女性都没有
[50:09]	People of color?	有色人种呢?
[50:10]	Uh, no, there are not	不没有
[50:12]	Why do you think that is ?	你觉得这是为什么?
[50:14]	Just the beginning of the problem	这些只是问题的冰山一角呢
[50:16]	Murder, murder!	杀人犯杀人犯!
[50:17]	There are three major things that control N.I.H. Research	控制国家卫生研究所的有三样
[50:20]	Stupidity incompetence and greed	愚蠢无能和贪婪
[50:23]	Those are the three major driving forces behind what’s going on here	现在发生的这些背后推手就是这三样
[50:26]	And why there are no treatments out there for people living with this disease	也是为什么市面上没有治疗这些患者手段的原因
[50:30]	In that building down that way	在那边那栋大楼
[50:32]	Dr. Anthony Fauci is deciding	安东尼・福西医生负责决定
[50:33]	The research priorities for the N.I.A.I.D	国家过敏与传染病研究的优先次序
[50:37]	We’re down here ’cause we think	我们聚在这儿因为我们认为
[50:39]	We should be deciding the sesearch priorities	应该由我们决定研究的优先次序
[50:41]	Because these are the people who know what’s going on	因为这些人才是知道发生了什么的人
[50:42]	‘Cause they’re dealing with it every day	因为他们每天都在与之打交道
[50:56]	The whole world is watching!	全世界都在看!
[50:58]	The whole world is watching!	全世界都在看!
[51:00]	The whole world is watching!	全世界都在看!
[51:02]	The whole world is watching!	全世界都在看!
[51:04]	The whole world is watching!	全世界都在看!
[51:07]	The whole world is watching…	全世界都在看…
[51:42]	If anything, the mood after the N.I.H was even bleaker than the mood before	在国家卫生研究所示威后情绪反而比之前消沉了
[51:46]	Because we had no indication	因为我们看不到任何迹象
[51:47]	That they were gonna change or respond to our demands	他们会改变或回应我们的要求
[51:51]	We had in fact had a meeting with them in Bethesda after the N.I.H. Action	事实上我们在示威后还和他们在贝塞斯达市有过会面
[51:54]	That indicated that there was total resistance	我们收到的是非常强烈的反对
[51:56]	To putting people from the community on the research committees	他们反对感染人群加入研究委员会
[51:59]	To letting the Act Up observers attend the meetings	让”行动起来”的观察员出席
[52:02]	And to open up the meetings so that there weren’t secret anymore	以及公开开会不再让会议秘密化
[52:05]	Why should science be shrouded in secrecy?	为什么科学要秘密进行?
[52:06]	It’s supposed to be based on a free exchange of ideas	它应当是想法的自由交流
[52:10]	And, so, it was very important to stage in San Francisco	因此旧金山这次集会就非常的重要
[52:14]	Before, again, the global community of scientists and people working on AIDS	它要让全球科学家和研究艾滋的人们再次知道
[52:18]	Why we had been at the N.I.H	为什么我们会去国家卫生研究所
[52:19]	Why the U.S. System wasn’t working out	为什么美国的体制不管用
[52:22]	And to reach the people directly	我们要向人们直接传达的
[52:24]	That we had reached symbolically through the N.I.H. Action	就是我们之前通过示威间接传达的
[52:42]	About a hundred protesters have already been arrested	在今天开始的旧金山国际艾滋大会上
[52:44]	At the international AIDS conference that began today in San Francisco	已有约一百示威者被捕
[52:48]	Hundreds more are angrily protesting a government policy	更多人则正在愤怒抗议政府的相关政策
[52:51]	They say “neglects research and ostracizes victims”	用他们的说法 “疏忽研究和放任受害者”
[52:55]	Why don’t you do an informational slide first?	为什么我们不先做内容幻灯片?
[52:57]	“United States has the most discriminatory immigration policies regarding HIV”	“美国在艾滋问题上存在最歧视性的出入境政策”
[53:02]	I could say, you know	我可以说
[53:03]	As a way to bridge the…	作为沟通桥梁…
[53:07]	The rift between the scientific community all of you and the activists	在科学组织和活动人士的所有鸿沟之间
[53:11]	We’d like you to join in some activism	我们希望你们能拿出点行动主义
[53:14]	And I’ve always been painfully aware	我一直痛苦的意识到
[53:16]	That in order for me to beat this virus and live	为让我能击退这个疾病和活下来
[53:19]	I will need a great deal of help from all of you	我需要来自你们所有人的很大帮助
[53:24]	Can we all, before it’s too late	我们能否在太迟之前
[53:26]	Begin to understand each other?	开始相互相理解?
[53:29]	Will we realize	我们能否意识到
[53:31]	That we share similar motivations?	我们拥有相同的动机?
[53:34]	During the upcoming days	在未来的几天
[53:36]	Act Up New York will be handing out our AIDS treatment agenda	纽约”行动起来”将分发一份我们的艾滋治疗纲领
[53:40]	Which includes a list of 99 drugs	包括列明了99种药物
[53:42]	That we believe could be ready for small phase-One studies this year or next	我们相信具备在今年或明年开始小规模测试的条件
[53:49]	However, from your side	尽管在你们来看
[53:52]	We’re being constantly told to butt out	我们被不停告知少指指点点
[53:56]	On my side	而在我们看来
[53:57]	The level of anger and frustration is reaching such a point	愤怒和沮丧已经达到如此至高点
[54:01]	That attitudes claiming that all of you are uncaring and in it for greed	以致认为你们所有人都漠不关心并且贪婪逐利的观点
[54:07]	Are now widespread	正在开始蔓延
[54:10]	While at times we may offend you	尽管我们可能冒犯你们
[54:12]	Remember as well that like you	但请记住和你们一样
[54:15]	Act Up has succeeded in prolonging	“行动起来”已经成功的延长了
[54:18]	The lives of thousands of people living with HIV disease	数以千计的艾滋携带者的生命
[54:26]	I would like to be joined in front of the stage by my fellow AIDS activists	我希望我的艾滋活动同伴们都能走到台前来
[54:31]	Would you all come up?	可以吗?
[54:34]	At this moment	此时此刻
[54:36]	There are others just like us	还有其他和我们一样
[54:38]	Who are trying to get into this conference	试图参加这次会议
[54:40]	But are being barred by the billy clubs of San Francisco police	但却被旧金山警察们用警棍对待的
[54:45]	And there are still others like us	仍然有和我们一样
[54:47]	Who are trying to get through customs at the San Francisco airport	试图通过旧金山机场的海关
[54:50]	But are being detained instead because they are gay	但却因为他们是同性恋而被扣留的
[54:54]	There’s a man that could have prevented these absurdities	有一个人本来可以阻止这一切荒谬
[54:57]	This man has said that	这个人曾说
[54:58]	He would like to see a kinder, gentler nation	他希望看到一个更友善更有礼貌的国度
[55:02]	If you believe that	如果你们认为
[55:03]	The immigration policy barring people living with HIV disease from entering this country	禁止艾滋携带者进入这个国家的出入境政策
[55:07]	Is useless as a health policy and discriminatory as well	作为卫生政策来说是无效也是歧视的
[55:11]	Please stand now and remain standing	请站起来并保持站着
[55:17]	Join us in vocalizing our collective anger	加入我们传达我们愤怒呼声
[55:21]	Join us in a chant against the man	加入我们声讨那个
[55:23]	Who could bring down the I.N.S. Barriers	本可以清除移民规划局障碍的人
[55:25]	Join us in a chant against the man	加入我们声讨那个
[55:28]	Who has decided to show his commitment to fighting AIDS by refusing to be here today	用拒绝出席今天的会议来兑现他抗艾承诺的人
[55:33]	Instead, he is at this very moment in North Carolina	此刻的他反而在北卡罗来纳州
[55:37]	Attending a fundraiser for the homophobic author of the I.N.S. Barriers	出席一个憎同的出入境条款设计人的筹款活动
[55:42]	That pig in the senate known as Jesse Helms…	那个叫耶西・赫尔姆斯的参议院猪…
[55:45]	Join us in this chant	加入我们一起声讨
[55:47]	300,000 dead from AIDS	30万人已死于艾滋
[55:49]	Where is George?	乔治他在哪儿?
[55:51]	300,000 dead from AIDS	30万人已死于艾滋
[55:54]	Where is George?	乔治他在哪儿?
[55:56]	300,000 dead from AIDS	30万人已死于艾滋
[55:58]	Where is George?	乔治他在哪儿?
[56:00]	300,000 dead from AIDS	30万人已死于艾滋
[56:02]	Where is George?	乔治他在哪儿?
[56:04]	You can all now consider yourselves members of Act Up	现在你们都是”行动起来”的一员了
[56:16]	One of the things that happened in San Francisco	发生在旧金山的其中一件事
[56:18]	Was that we found out we had won some of our N.I.H. Demands	就是我们发现国家卫生所认可了我们的一些要求
[56:22]	Fauci came up to me and said	福西找到我说
[56:24]	We had a meeting	我们开了个会
[56:25]	That we’re gonna put you guys on all the committees	我们决定把你们放到委员会里来
[56:27]	And we’re gonna let your observers go to the meetings	我们也会让你们的观察员列席
[56:29]	And the meetings won’t be secret anymore	会议不会再秘密举行了
[56:30]	Never again… could any of this be done	再没有可能…像以前那样
[56:37]	Without taking people with AIDS and their advocates into consideration	不再考虑艾滋患者和艾滋人士的声音了
[56:42]	This would be public business from now on	从现在起它已经进入了公共事件范畴
[56:53]	It was beginning to feel a little different	我们开始感觉到有些不同了
[56:55]	Because we’d spent all the time up until then being on the outside	因为我们之前所有时间都在门外
[56:58]	Sort of beating on the doors and trying to get in	用力的拍门想进去
[57:00]	And now they actually wanted to hear what we had to say	而现在他们真的在听我们说什么了
[57:20]	We brought them in at Merck	我们把他们请到默克
[57:22]	We made… we made a very, uh… specific effort to bring those individuals in	我们…我们做出特别努力请那些人来
[57:26]	So that they would see	好使他们看到
[57:27]	What it is that we were doing or trying to do from the very beginning	我们正在做什么或正在开始尝试做什么
[57:31]	This was really fantastic stuff	那是很棒的体验
[57:33]	Because we were sitting down with them	因为我们和他们坐在一起
[57:36]	And sometimes from the very earliest stages of development of a drug	有时是参与一种药物最早期的开发
[57:40]	And helping them plot out their strategy	帮助他们完成规划
[57:42]	Toward, uh, designing clinical trials	直到设计出临床测试
[57:45]	The chemists who had worked on the project, a bunch uh, couple chemists said	这个项目上的化学家有的化学家说
[57:50]	Let’s look at all the aspartic protease inhibitors that we have on the shelf	让我们看看所有的天冬氨酸蛋白酶抑制剂
[57:53]	And they tested ’em	他们测试了
[57:55]	And they found a few molecules that actually worked	发现部分新的分子真的管用
[57:58]	The challenge was is now	挑战在于
[57:59]	You had these molecules that were really good inhibitors in your assay	你有了实验中非常有效的分子抑制剂
[58:04]	Which is just in a test tube	但它只是在试管中
[58:06]	When you put it into animals	当你注射到动物体内
[58:07]	They just would never work	它们怎么都不管用
[58:08]	Or they would never get absorbed by your system	或怎么都不被身体吸收
[58:11]	And I remember being very disappointed	我记得那时非常的失望
[58:12]	‘Cause I had to share this information with sort of my own personal view	因为我必须在会上分享我的个人看法
[58:16]	Which was: this is gonna be a lot more difficult than	那就是: 这比想的要难得多
[58:18]	You know, we thought it was gonna be originally	我们觉得它是创新
[58:20]	And in fact may not be possible	但实际上却可能行不通
[58:22]	And Bill Bahlman said	比尔・巴尔曼就说
[58:23]	“Take a break, pick yourself up and go back at it”	“休息一下打起精神我们再搞它”
[58:26]	If he and his colleagues and his friends around the table	假如他和他的同事桌子周围的朋友
[58:29]	Can take that attitude and do that	都能以这样的心态这样做
[58:31]	I remember saying to myself	我记得当时我对自己说
[58:32]	“Emilio, you’ve got no right to say to yourself”	“埃米利奥你没有任何权利跟自己说”
[58:35]	“I don’t know if I can do this, then?”	“我不知道自己行不行知道吗?”
[58:37]	And… so, off we went	所以我们又继续了
[58:40]	And we kept going at it	我们不停的尝试
[58:42]	We’re spending $4 billion a year on AIDS research	我们每年在艾滋研究上花费40亿美元
[58:46]	When you consider that on a per-Capita basis for	假如你把这个数字折算成人均值
[58:48]	Compared to heart disease or cancer	跟心脏病或癌症相比
[58:51]	It’s an awful lot	已经是太多
[58:52]	Almost nothing stops George Bush from a round of golf	几乎没什么可以让乔治・布什离开高尔夫球场
[58:55]	He’s played nearly every day	他几乎每天都在打
[58:57]	And sometimes twice a day during his August vacation	在八月假期有时候甚至每天打两次
[59:15]	If the message is research	如果他们想传达的是做研究
[59:17]	I would say please	我会说拜托
[59:18]	Talk to Dr. Fauci and others at the National Institute of Health	去跟福西医生和其他国家卫生研究所的人说
[59:22]	Who would tell you that, uh…	他们会告诉你…
[59:23]	We’re doing pretty well in funding of research	我们在研究拨款上很尽责了
[59:51]	We’ve got to factor in the sensitivity of those of us	我们要考虑到我们中某些人很敏感
[59:59]	Who feel that there’s a spiritual and moral aspect	他们觉得自己存在精神的道德的一面
[1:00:05]	To this playing to the homosexual lesbian crowd	作为这些男女同性恋人群
[1:00:10]	It makes it different from anything else	让他们感到与众不同
[1:00:14]	Oh, shh…	见鬼…
[1:00:15]	I wish they’d shut their mouths and go to work	我希望他们能闭上嘴巴做自己的事
[1:00:18]	And keep their private matters to themselves	管好自己的私生活
[1:00:20]	And get their mentality out of their crotches	不要把理性都交给下半身
[1:00:23]	I’m here today because Jesse Helms is the devil	我在这儿是因为耶西・赫尔姆斯是魔鬼
[1:00:25]	Jesse Helms has worked for years to do as much as he possibly can	杰西.赫尔姆斯多年来都竭尽他所能的
[1:00:28]	To ensure the continuance of the AIDS epidemic	确保这个艾滋灾难继续下去
[1:00:30]	The disease is spreading because of him	疾病因为他而蔓延
[1:00:32]	And people are dying because of him	人们因为他而死掉
[1:00:34]	This is an educational effort	这是教学行为
[1:00:36]	It’s not a violation of people’s property rights	不是侵犯私人财产
[1:00:38]	We’ve been very careful that absolutely no damage is done	我们已经非常谨慎的避免造成任何损坏
[1:00:41]	And if any damage is done, whatever it is	但假如造成损坏无论是什么
[1:00:43]	We’ll be happy to pay for it	我们会很高兴赔偿
[1:00:44]	We have the money with us to pay for it	我们带够了赔偿的钱
[1:00:48]	You guys don’t want to tangle with these people	你们不想跟这些人打交道
[1:00:50]	‘Cause you don’t want to get AIDS, I know, but what’s next?	因为你们不想得艾滋对吧但接下来呢?
[1:00:53]	Come on, get out	好了够了
[1:00:54]	If they would keep their mouths shut	假如他们能闭上嘴巴
[1:00:57]	And go about their business	做自己的事
[1:00:58]	With whatever their sexual orientation is	不管他们的性取向是什么
[1:01:01]	Nobody would ever say a word	没人会多说一句
[1:01:02]	And we wouldn’t know anything about it	因为我们根本不会知道
[1:01:03]	But, no, they march in the streets	但是不他们在街上游行
[1:01:05]	And they defy you to say anything about it	他们挑衅你要你说出任何话来
[1:01:09]	Well, they don’t like me and I don’t like them	他们不喜欢我我也不喜欢他们
[1:01:11]	Back off the property	远离私人财产
[1:01:12]	Bunch of ’em climbed up on my house in Arlington	他们当中有人爬上我在阿灵顿的房子
[1:01:16]	And hoisted about a 35-Foot canvas…	盖上一张35英尺的帆布…
[1:01:19]	Uh, condom one day in protest of me	安全套来向我抗议
[1:01:24]	Fight AIDS!	抗击艾滋! 抗击艾滋! 抗击艾滋!
[1:01:25]	Fight AIDS, fight AIDS, fight!	抗击艾滋! 抗击艾滋! 抗击艾滋!
[1:01:34]	Sir, when we started this colloquy	先生在我们召开这个会议前
[1:01:36]	I thought I was on your side	我以为我是站在你那边
[1:01:37]	Particularly on the first amendment	尤其关于宪法第一修正案
[1:01:40]	And under the first amendment people don’t have to shut their mouths	而在第一修正案下人们不用保持噤声
[1:01:43]	They have a right to speak	他们有讲话的权利
[1:01:45]	Well, uh… they can speak	呃…他们可以讲话
[1:01:48]	Uh, just so long as, uh, they don’t offend anybody else	只要呃他们不冒犯到其他人
[1:01:53]	Uh, I suppose	我这么想
[1:02:00]	Make sure your second coming is a safe one	确保你的第二次性高潮安全
[1:02:07]	Use condoms	使用安全套
[1:02:09]	Are you shooting?	你在录吗?
[1:02:10]	Yeah	嗯
[1:02:12]	I just turned it on	我刚开机
[1:02:16]	OK, rolling	好了开拍了
[1:02:23]	– Tell him we’re… – The machine is rolling	– 跟他说… – 摄像机已经开动了
[1:02:25]	You can start talking now, honey	亲爱的你可以开始了
[1:02:27]	Oh, I didn’t know she meant now	噢我不知道她指现在
[1:02:31]	What I was gonna say was	我想说的是
[1:02:32]	I just love…	我很爱…
[1:02:34]	I love so much to go up to the 10th floor	很爱来到10楼的感觉
[1:02:38]	Because no one ever had explained to me that	因为没人跟我解释
[1:02:43]	There was going to be light again in the world	世界上还会有再有光明存在
[1:02:47]	And that the whole world wasn’t going to be dark	整个世界不会都是黑暗
[1:02:52]	Some great challenges face us	我们正在面对一些大的挑战
[1:02:55]	As young people	作为年轻人
[1:02:58]	We’re in our 20s, and, and	我们在我们的20多岁
[1:03:01]	This is the challenge that’s been placed in front of me	这是我要面对的挑战
[1:03:05]	And, who knows, little camera	所以谁知道呢小摄像机
[1:03:08]	Lots of other blind, deaf men have lived happy lives	很多失明和失聪的人都能过得很幸福
[1:03:15]	There are…	还有…
[1:03:17]	There are many years to come	还有很多年在等我
[1:03:21]	Let’s hope	希望吧
[1:03:23]	So…	所以…
[1:03:27]	What the hell	管他妈的呢
[1:03:29]	Life is worth living…	生命就是值得一活…
[1:03:31]	Isn’t it?	不是吗?
[1:03:43]	The death rate just kept on climbing	死亡率继续攀升
[1:03:48]	We realized that science really was up against a brick wall	我们意识到科学已经走进死胡同了
[1:03:53]	We kept getting new drugs approved to prevent opportunistic infections	我们不断批准新的药物来防止机会性感染
[1:03:56]	And then somebody would just get another infection	有的人却因此获得其他感染
[1:04:34]	So, Peter, where are we going?	皮特我们要去哪儿?
[1:04:35]	We’re gonna be going to the	我们要去
[1:04:36]	Headquarters of Daiichi Pharmaceutical companies of Japan	日本第一制药公司的总部
[1:04:41]	This is their U.S. Headquarters	这是他们的美国总部
[1:04:44]	And, uh, we’re blockading their offices	我们要去堵他们的办公室
[1:04:46]	Because they have a drug	因为他们有种药
[1:04:48]	That’s important both to AIDS activists and cancer activists	艾滋和癌症人士都认为重要的
[1:04:53]	Specifically, uh, breast cancer	尤其对乳腺癌来说
[1:04:58]	That they’ve been dragging their feet on for over two years now	他们延迟发布这个药超过两年了
[1:05:02]	And, uh, we don’t understand why	我们不明白原因
[1:05:04]	But we certainly	但我们一定会
[1:05:06]	Are gonna try to let them understand why we’re concerned	试着让他们知道为什么我们关心这个
[1:05:10]	And, everybody…	所有人…
[1:05:11]	Wait for you at the end of the hall	在大厅尽头等
[1:05:12]	Just wait outside the elevators	等在电梯外就行
[1:05:16]	Shh	嘘
[1:05:18]	Hey	嘿
[1:05:19]	Hi, we’re with Act Up	嗨我们是”行动起来”的
[1:05:21]	We’re doing an act of civil disobedience	我们在进行一个公民异见行为
[1:05:23]	Please remain calm	请不要惊慌
[1:05:25]	Jim, it’s Peter, we’re in	吉姆是皮特我们进来了
[1:05:28]	Send all the press	跟所有媒体说
[1:05:30]	Hello, we’re from Act Up New York	你好我们是纽约”行动起来”
[1:05:41]	You already have the blood of several thousand people on your hands	你们的双手已经沾满了上千人的血
[1:05:44]	And those of us like me	而那些和我一样的人
[1:05:46]	Who have kaposi’s sarcoma are gonna die	因为卡波西肉瘤而死去
[1:05:49]	And we are here until we get arrested	我们会待在这儿直到被捕
[1:05:51]	You seem to know nothing	你要么看着完全不了解
[1:05:51]	About the actual details of the development of this drug	这种药的开发事实细节
[1:05:55]	Maybe you’re just not telling us	要么就是你不想告诉我们
[1:05:56]	Mr. Borsic, have you scheduled a meeting with the F.D.A.?	伯尔希克先生你和药管局安排过会面吗?
[1:05:59]	Yeah, as soon as we can	是的我们会尽可能
[1:06:00]	We have helped many companies through this process	我们已经帮许多公司处理过这个流程
[1:06:03]	We can take a drug from your test tube to the market	我们能够帮助你的药从试管到上市
[1:06:06]	In under two years if you work with us	只要两年假如你愿意合作
[1:06:09]	And we will pave the way for you with the food and drug administration	我们会帮你铺好通向药管局的路
[1:06:13]	But, but this total reluctance on your part is gonna get you nowhere	但你的迟疑态度完全于事无补
[1:06:18]	It’ll end up killing us, all right?	结果只会害死我们知道吗?
[1:06:20]	See this dark mark on my forehead?	看到我额头上的黑色标记了吗?
[1:06:22]	That’s kaposi’s sarcoma	这叫卡波西肉瘤
[1:06:25]	It’s gonna spread!	它会扩散!
[1:06:26]	It’s gonna kill me!	会杀死我!
[1:06:28]	You coming to my funeral?	你要来我的葬礼吗?
[1:06:29]	Because you’re the man fucking responsible	因为你要承担他妈的责任
[1:06:32]	You are my murderer in your shirt and tie	西装革履的你是杀死我的人
[1:06:40]	Do you think that you’ll live to see a cure?	你觉得你会活到治疗方法出现吗?
[1:06:43]	No. I don’t	不不会
[1:06:45]	Do you think that you’ll live?	你觉得你会吗?
[1:06:49]	No	不
[1:06:51]	No	不会你预计自己会死于这个?
[1:06:52]	You expect to die from this?	不会你预计自己会死于这个?
[1:07:09]	The anger just mounted and mounted and mounted	愤怒在不断不断的堆积
[1:07:12]	The more people who were dying	人们在不断死去
[1:07:14]	Once a week we met…	我们一周见一次
[1:07:17]	And at that meeting a lot of people came	很多人会来
[1:07:19]	Who were just terrified they weren’t gonna be alive, even the next week	他们害怕不能再见哪怕就下周
[1:07:23]	What can we do, how can we get there?	我们能做什么怎么才能活?
[1:07:26]	I think Act Up’s anger turned in after having been directed out so long	“行动起来”的愤怒在引领多年后反而淡化了
[1:07:33]	In its first few years	在最初的几年
[1:07:36]	Treatment and data pretty much got everything it wanted from the floor of Act Up	通过”行动起来”平台治疗和数据基本收集到了
[1:07:42]	But as treatment and data was becoming more and more technical	但当治疗和数据变得越来越专业化
[1:07:47]	There were a lot of people in the general membership of Act Up	许多”行动起来”的普通成员
[1:07:51]	That saw that as an elite	认为自己成为了精英
[1:07:54]	And that maybe it would be better if that elite was pulled in a bit	他们认为如果精英能更深入参与效果会更好
[1:08:01]	There was a fear, I think	人们有一种恐惧就是
[1:08:03]	That we were getting too close to the people in power	当我们跟掌权的人靠得太近
[1:08:07]	That we would compromise our own principles	我们会妥协自己的原则
[1:08:10]	And the people who were more interested in the social issues	那些对社会问题更感兴趣的人
[1:08:14]	Became uncomfortable with that	开始感到不舒服
[1:08:16]	I remember this very divisive moment	我记得在某个很分歧的时刻
[1:08:17]	Where, um, you know	呃你知道
[1:08:19]	There was a proposal for moratorium on meeting with drug companies	有人提出暂停和制药公司的会面
[1:08:24]	And someone for six months	有人说停六个月
[1:08:26]	And there was a huge and impassioned debate over it	因为这个我们有过一次激烈的大争论
[1:08:29]	And someone said	有人说
[1:08:30]	A woman who was not HIV-Positive said	一个不是艾滋阳性的女人说
[1:08:33]	“Well, it’s not like it’s for the rest of your life”	“你们又不是只剩这六个月了”
[1:08:36]	And for a lot of people in the room	但对房间里的很多人来说
[1:08:38]	It was the rest of their life	确实就是他们只剩的生命
[1:08:40]	Act Up!	行动起来!
[1:08:41]	Fight back!	还击回去!
[1:08:42]	Fight AIDS!	抗击艾滋!
[1:08:43]	There were inevitable splits in priorities	在轻重缓急上存在无可避免的分歧
[1:08:47]	– And you know quite well… – I know	– 你非常清楚… – 我清楚
[1:08:48]	And it was completely left out of the N.I.H. Research agenda	而且这完全脱离了国家卫生研究所的研究日程
[1:08:52]	I agree	我同意
[1:08:54]	I, I…	我…
[1:08:55]	I remember a lot of dirty tricks that happened	我记得发生了很多暗地小动作
[1:08:57]	And a lot of fear within the organization	组织内部产生了很大的恐惧
[1:09:02]	That the various factions had done this to each other	很多小团体开始互相内讧
[1:09:05]	Mark Harrington	马克・哈林顿
[1:09:06]	Mark Harrington	马克・哈林顿
[1:09:08]	There’s a video camera here now	现在有在录像
[1:09:10]	Would you like to take an oath	你愿意在这里发誓
[1:09:12]	That you will not write nasty anonymous letters to people?	你不会给人们写肮脏匿名信吗?
[1:09:15]	I’ve been getting some hate letters too	我也收到了一些仇恨信件
[1:09:17]	But those are unsigned	都没有署名
[1:09:18]	I don’t ever, I don’t ever…	我从没有我从来不…
[1:09:19]	So you’ll keep on writing nasty letters to people?	所以你会继续给别人写肮脏匿名信?
[1:09:22]	There were a lot of charges in the midst of that of sabotage and threats	过程中有很多的指控插刀和恐吓
[1:09:28]	Our last speaker is, is Larry Kramer	我们最后的演讲人是拉瑞・克莱默
[1:09:32]	Why didn’t you answer the charges?	你为什么不回应这些指控?
[1:09:34]	Bill, you’re gonna have a chance to talk	比尔等下会有机会给你说
[1:09:36]	All right, everybody’s…	好吗每个人…
[1:09:37]	Don’t lecture me, you stupid, lazy, incompetent shithead!	不需要你教我你个愚蠢懒惰没用的混球!
[1:09:41]	Bill, everybody got the flyer…	比尔每个人都拿到了传单…
[1:09:45]	You can’t just lick his ass before he talks!	他还没讲话你就开始拍他的马屁!
[1:09:48]	Shut the fuck up and let him answer!	闭上他妈的嘴让他说话!
[1:09:50]	Look, there are a lot of people in the audience	听着听众里有很多人
[1:09:52]	Who want to ask and talk about treatment	想询问和讨论治疗方法
[1:09:55]	And I think it’s important that we allow that to happen	我觉得允许他们发问很重要
[1:09:58]	Oh, we’re gonna dictate free speech now?	所以现在我们又来言论自由那套了?
[1:10:00]	You’re the one who’s interfering with speech right now	现在是你在干涉别人的发言
[1:10:02]	Go back to G.M.H.C	回你的男同志健康危机小组
[1:10:04]	Or whatever AIDS pimp operation is paying you	或随便找个付你薪水拉皮条的艾滋机构吧
[1:10:06]	You’re making the same point George Bush made…	你的观点和乔治・布什如出一辙…
[1:10:08]	Plague!	瘟疫!
[1:10:10]	We are in the middle of a fucking plague!	我们正处在他妈的一场瘟疫中!
[1:10:13]	And you behave like this!	而你却是这个样子!
[1:10:22]	Plague!	瘟疫!
[1:10:24]	40 million infected people	四千万的感染人群
[1:10:27]	Is a fucking plague!	是他妈的大瘟疫!
[1:10:35]	We are in the worst shape	我们处在最糟的状态
[1:10:37]	We have ever, ever, ever been in!	我们从来从来没有过的!
[1:10:42]	All those pills we’re shoveling down our throats, forget it!	那些我们吞进喉咙的药没有用!
[1:10:47]	Act Up has been taken over by a lunatic fringe	“行动起来”被狂热分子控制
[1:10:50]	They can’t get together	他们不能团结起来
[1:10:51]	Nobody agrees with anything	任何事都达不成一致
[1:10:53]	All we can do is field a couple hundred people in a demonstration!	我们唯一做的就是召集几百个人游行
[1:10:57]	That’s not gonna make anybody pay attention	而那不会引起任何人的注意
[1:11:01]	Not until we get millions out there	除非我们有百万人走上街头
[1:11:05]	And we can’t do that!	而我们做不到!
[1:11:07]	All we do is pick at each other	我们做的只是互相攻歼
[1:11:09]	And yell at each other!	互相吼叫!
[1:11:11]	And I say to you in year 10	在第10年我这么对你们说
[1:11:14]	The same thing I said to you in 1981, when there were 41 cases	就如我在1981年只有41例艾滋时对你们说的
[1:11:22]	Until we get our acts together	除非我们团结起来
[1:11:24]	All of us	我们所有人
[1:11:28]	We are as good as dead	否则我们跟死了没区别
[1:11:34]	In the end	在最后
[1:11:35]	The treatment and data guys	参与治疗与数据的人
[1:11:36]	Peter, Garance, Mark, and some others	皮特加朗斯马克和其他一些人
[1:11:39]	Split off and	分离了出去
[1:11:41]	Formed their own separate organization	建立了自己的独立组织TAG
[1:11:44]	Tag was one of the little mercury balls	治疗行动小组就像一个水银球
[1:11:46]	That flew off the main body of Act Up	从”行动起来”的主体中滑落出去
[1:11:49]	A more sort of “think tank” type. Project came about	变成了更像智库一样的机构有自己项目
[1:11:54]	Mr. Harrington, a tag member	哈林顿先生治疗行动小组成员
[1:11:56]	Educated at Harvard College	哈弗大学毕业
[1:11:58]	And he has worked for a long time on experimental treatments for the disease	他长时间接触艾滋的实验治疗
[1:12:03]	And also the basic science	同时包括基础科学
[1:12:05]	And Mr. Gonsalves was born in Long Island	贡萨尔维斯先生出生于长岛
[1:12:10]	And attended Tufts university	毕业于塔夫茨大学
[1:12:11]	Also a tag member	也是治疗行动小组成员
[1:12:14]	I guess I can do nothing better	我想没有什么
[1:12:15]	Than to turn this conference over to my speakers	比把会议交到这两位发言人手里更好的了
[1:12:20]	I noticed that you’re both sitting up there in suits and ties	我注意到你们都坐在那儿穿着正装
[1:12:25]	Do you feel that your approach	你们是觉得现在的方式
[1:12:27]	Is better than circling N.I.H. Buildings and so forth?	比围堵国家卫生研究所更好吗?
[1:12:34]	I think that we like to keep our options open	我觉得我们希望保证选择的开放性
[1:12:37]	But it’s silly to risk arrest and the hassles that are intendant upon it	但此时承担被捕和对抗的风险是愚蠢的
[1:12:41]	If you can get serious attention and negotiations going with other measures	因为我们用其他的方法获得了被认真对待和讨论协商
[1:12:47]	We just released a report	我们刚发布一份报告
[1:12:49]	A critique of all the N.I.H.’S AIDS programs	评价国家卫生研究所的所有艾滋项目
[1:12:51]	The research is spread out over 12 agencies	研究已经扩大到12个部门
[1:12:54]	There’s no coordination	没有协商机制
[1:12:55]	There’s a lot of duplication	很多重复工作
[1:12:56]	There’s no leadership	缺少领导力
[1:12:58]	The budget is shrinking and shrinking as cases mount	随着病例攀升预算越来越缩水
[1:13:01]	And the president needs to be blamed as well as the congress	而这一切该归咎总统还有国会
[1:13:04]	Who cut the entire N.I.H. Budget by $150 million two weeks ago	他们在两周前削减了国家卫生研究所1.5亿元的预算
[1:13:07]	Our recommendations, I think	我们的建议
[1:13:09]	Are gonna require some legislation	是要求通过某种立法
[1:13:11]	Um, so we have to go to our friends on the Hill	所以我们得去找国会山的朋友
[1:13:14]	And see what wonders they can work for us	看他们能为我们带来什么奇迹
[1:13:28]	We had this one particular compound	我们发现了一种特殊化合物
[1:13:30]	That looked like it may have had the potency	可能具有治疗效果
[1:13:33]	And the physical properties that we wanted	和我们想要的物理特征
[1:13:35]	And it could be a possible drug	它可能是我们要找的药
[1:13:37]	We said, you know, let’s put in HIV-Infected individuals	我说咱们把它给艾滋病人试一下
[1:13:40]	And let’s see what happens	看看会发生什么
[1:13:41]	So, we went into HIV-Infected individuals with this drug called Indinavir	于是我们对艾滋病人注射了这种叫做印地那韦的药
[1:13:45]	You could see a very substantial drop just with the one protease inhibitor	然后你可以发现一种蛋白酶抑制剂导致了病毒明显的减少
[1:13:49]	You could see a very substantial drop in virus load	血液中的病毒含量明显减少
[1:13:51]	So that was the first week	那是第一周
[1:13:53]	The second week was very disappointing	第二周非常让人失望
[1:13:54]	Because what we saw in the second week	因为在第二周我们发现
[1:13:57]	Was in fact, the virus load coming right back up again	事实上病毒量重新回到了之前的水平
[1:14:00]	One exception	只有一个例外
[1:14:01]	There was one patient	有一个病人
[1:14:03]	That um, patient 143, I believe	我相信是143号病人
[1:14:06]	Was his name, his number	那是他的名字他的编号
[1:14:08]	That the virus went down and stayed down	他的病毒水平下降而且维持在那个水平
[1:14:11]	That told us that it was possible	这告诉了我们是有可能的
[1:14:13]	If it can happen in one	假如它能在一个人身上发生
[1:14:15]	Then by definition it can happen in everyone	那理论上它可以在所有人身上发生
[1:14:18]	You just need to figure out how to do it	你只需要知道怎么实现它
[1:14:20]	That puts you in a completely different place	这就让我们处在了完全不同的位置
[1:14:22]	And in a completely different state of mind	和完全不同的思维方式
[1:14:24]	So then the question became	所以接着问题就变成
[1:14:25]	OK, now what do we need to do in order to make it possible?	好吧那我们现在要怎么做才让它有可能?
[1:14:31]	This is the beginning of the primary season to elect the next president	现在是下届美国总统的初选阶段
[1:14:36]	We want to send a message to all of the candidates	我们想向所有候选人传达一个信息
[1:14:39]	We have not seen them actively address the AIDS plague	我们还没有见到他们有谁主动提起艾滋大瘟疫的事
[1:14:44]	And we thought it would be best to send a message	我们觉得最好的传达信息方式
[1:14:47]	By voting with our feet in the streets	就是到街上用脚投票
[1:14:49]	I want to call for a massive march on Washington	我想召集一个大规模游行就在华盛顿
[1:14:54]	The weekend the AIDS quilt is gonna be there	这个周末艾滋拼布运动会去那儿
[1:14:58]	We have got to surround the White house with people concerned about AIDS	我们会让白宫被关心艾滋问题的人包围
[1:15:04]	To push Bush out of the White house!	把布什赶出白宫!
[1:15:12]	Last night a man with AIDS heckled Clinton	昨晚一位艾滋患者质问克林顿
[1:15:15]	Charging that he had a bad record on fighting AIDS in Arkansas	指责他在阿肯色州抗击艾滋拥有不良记录
[1:15:19]	When voter Bob Rafsky met Bill Clinton	当选民鲍勃・拉夫斯基与比尔.克林顿会面
[1:15:21]	It was anything but pleasant	气氛绝不融洽
[1:15:23]	We’re dying in this state	我们正在这个州死去
[1:15:25]	What are you going to do about AIDS?	你打算对艾滋做什么?
[1:15:28]	First of all	首先
[1:15:30]	It will become a part of my obsession as president	这将成为我当选总统后的最大困扰
[1:15:35]	And that’s why I’m running for president to do something about it	正因为这样我才竞选总统去做出改变
[1:15:39]	Will you just calm down?	你能先冷静下来吗?
[1:15:43]	I feel your pain!	我能感受你的痛苦!
[1:15:45]	I feel your pain	我能感受你的痛苦
[1:15:46]	But if you want to attack me personally	但如果你把它变成对我的人身攻击
[1:15:48]	You’re no better than Jerry Brown and all the rest of these people	那你比杰瑞・布朗之流好不到哪儿去 (克林顿的初选对手)
[1:15:51]	Who say whatever sounds good in the moment	他们永远只是嘴上说得好听
[1:15:52]	If you want something to be done	如果你想什么付诸实施
[1:15:54]	You ask me a question, you listen	向我提问然后聆听
[1:15:56]	If you don’t agree with me, go support somebody else for president	如果你不同意我就去支持别人当总统
[1:15:59]	But quit talking to me like that	但不要用这种方式和我说话
[1:16:00]	This is not a matter of personal attack	这不是关于人身攻击
[1:16:02]	It’s a matter of human loss	这是关于人命流失
[1:16:06]	I came here tonight because I’m dying from AIDS	我今晚来这儿因为我正因艾滋而死去
[1:16:09]	And it doesn’t matter to me who the next president is	对我来说谁是下届总统不重要
[1:16:12]	If they don’t change 11 years of government neglect of this epidemic	假如他们不改变政府11年来忽视这场灾难的态度
[1:16:17]	Is this on? This isn’t on	开始录了吗?
[1:16:19]	Um, OK, first off, um…	呃好吧首先…
[1:16:23]	What happened this week was	这周所发生的事
[1:16:25]	AIDS became an issue in this campaign	让艾滋成为了选战的一个议题
[1:16:36]	I’d like to call down Bob Rafsky	我想感谢鲍勃・拉夫斯基
[1:16:59]	Act Up!	行动起来!
[1:17:00]	Fight back!	还击回去!
[1:17:01]	Fight AIDS!	抗击艾滋!
[1:17:03]	Act Up!	行动起来!
[1:17:04]	Fight back!	还击回去!
[1:17:05]	Fight AIDS!	抗击艾滋!
[1:17:10]	Uh, never debate a Rhodes scholar	永远不要和拿罗德奖学金的人辩论 (指克林顿)
[1:17:12]	It gets you into a world of trouble	绝对让你陷入麻烦
[1:17:15]	It looks like what we have to do	看来我们需要做的
[1:17:17]	Is to keep forcing these clowns to say the right thing	就是不断施压这些政治小丑说出正确的事情
[1:17:20]	So that if one of them happens to become president	这样当他们中一个成为总统
[1:17:23]	We can hold them accountable for doing the right thing	我们可以让他们守诺去做正确的事情
[1:17:26]	But I just… It’s alway important to say	但…还是有些重要的话
[1:17:29]	That we all know that the names of the people who might save our lives	就是我们都知道那些真正可能拯救我们生命的人的名字
[1:17:33]	Are not Bill Clinton and Jerry Brown, etc	不是比尔・克林顿杰瑞・布朗这些人
[1:17:36]	The names of the people who might save our lives	可能拯救我们生命的人的名字
[1:17:38]	Are Iris Long, Mark Harrington, Peter Staley, etc	是艾瑞斯・朗马克・哈林顿皮特・斯特利这些人
[1:17:42]	And they’re the ones who will be remembered as the heroes of this epidemic	他们才是这场艾滋灾难中该被铭记的英雄
[1:17:46]	As well as those who have gone before	还有那些去世的人
[1:17:52]	And he smells like one, too	他闻着怪怪的
[1:17:54]	Well, I haven’t showered so I’m not surprised…	我没洗澡所以我不奇怪你们闻到…
[1:17:57]	No, I’ve just been writing	没有我刚才一直在写作
[1:17:59]	I was up at 5 a.M. Yesterday	我昨天5点就起来了
[1:18:01]	This is Bob’s birthday July 22nd, 1992	今天是鲍勃的生日 1992年7月22日
[1:18:08]	– Ready for the pyrotechnics? – Yes!	– 准备好看烟火了吗? – 好了!
[1:18:10]	– Nathaniel, help – No	– 纳森尼帮他 – 不要
[1:18:13]	Yay!	耶!
[1:18:15]	Lydia E. Rios	莉迪亚・E・里奥斯
[1:18:19]	Steve H	史蒂夫・H
[1:18:23]	My friends David Evans	我的朋友大卫・埃文斯
[1:18:27]	Nicolas Kaiser, George Marshall	尼古拉斯・凯撒乔治・马歇尔
[1:18:32]	And my beloved brother Dennis J	和我亲爱的弟弟丹尼斯・J
[1:18:36]	Robert R. Hakins	罗伯特・R・哈金斯
[1:18:40]	Phillip Gregory Ellison	菲利普・格雷戈里・埃里森
[1:18:44]	Terry Ronan	泰瑞・罗南
[1:18:47]	Michael Bennett	麦克・班尼特
[1:18:49]	Ron Field	罗恩・菲尔德
[1:18:52]	Tina Chow	缇娜・乔恩
[1:18:54]	Perry Ellis	佩里・埃利斯
[1:18:56]	Freddie Mercury	弗莱迪・玛库瑞
[1:18:59]	Peter Allen	皮特・艾伦
[1:19:01]	To the thousands of other people	其他成千上万的人
[1:19:04]	Who were made to suffer in silence	在痛苦中沉默的人
[1:19:14]	Join Act Up for a political funeral!	加入”行动起来” 出席政治葬礼!
[1:19:18]	Meet at the south of the Capitol at 1 p.M	下午1点美国国会大厦南端集合
[1:19:21]	Give a wake-Up call to George Bush and Bill Clinton and Perot	给乔治・布什比尔・克林顿还有帕罗敲响警钟 (当年的三位总统候选人)
[1:19:33]	I think the quilt itself does good stuff and is moving	我认为拼布本身是好事而且很感人
[1:19:37]	Still, it’s like making something beautiful out of the epidemic	但它就像在瘟疫中提炼出一些美丽的东西
[1:19:40]	And I felt like doing something like this is a way of showing	而我觉得我在做的就是在说
[1:19:44]	There’s nothing beautiful about it	这里面没什么美丽的
[1:19:45]	You know, this is what I’m left with	这就是剩给我的东西
[1:19:46]	I’ve got a box full of ashes and bone chips	整整一盒的骨灰和骨渣
[1:19:48]	You know, there’s no beauty in that	这里面没有美
[1:19:51]	And I felt like a statement like this is like saying	我觉得这样的声明就像在说
[1:19:54]	This is what George Bush has done	看看乔治・布什做了什么
[1:19:56]	You know? This is what him and Ronald Reagan before him have done	看看他和他的前任罗纳德・里根做了什么
[1:19:59]	These are our loved ones and this is what they’ve been reduced to	这些都是我们深爱的人看他们变成了什么
[1:20:01]	And we’re bringing them to the person who’s responsible for their death	我们要把他们带到导致他们死亡的人面前
[1:20:21]	Fight back!	还击回去!
[1:20:22]	Fight AIDS!	抗击艾滋!
[1:20:23]	Act Up, fight back, fight AIDS!	行动起来还击回去抗击艾滋!
[1:20:26]	Act Up, fight back, fight AIDS!	行动起来还击回去抗击艾滋!
[1:20:29]	Act Up, fight back, fight AIDS!	行动起来还击回去抗击艾滋!
[1:20:44]	Bringing the dead to your door!	把死者带到你门口!
[1:20:46]	We won’t take it anymore!	我们不要再忍受!
[1:20:48]	Bringing the dead to your door!	把死者带到你门口!
[1:20:50]	We won’t take it anymore!	我们不要再忍受!
[1:20:52]	Bringing the dead to your door!	把死者带到你门口!
[1:21:39]	Act Up!	行动起来!
[1:21:40]	Fight back!	还击回去!
[1:21:41]	Fight AIDS!	抗击艾滋!
[1:21:42]	Act Up!	行动起来!
[1:21:48]	Act Up!	行动起来!
[1:21:49]	Fight back!	还击回去!
[1:21:50]	Fight AIDS!	抗击艾滋!
[1:21:51]	Act Up!	行动起来!
[1:21:52]	Fight back!	还击回去!
[1:21:53]	Fight AIDS!	抗击艾滋!
[1:21:54]	Act Up!	行动起来!
[1:21:55]	Fight back!	还击回去!
[1:21:56]	Fight AIDS!	抗击艾滋!
[1:21:57]	Act Up!	行动起来!
[1:21:58]	Fight back!	奋力反击!
[1:21:59]	Fight AIDS!	抗击艾滋!
[1:22:02]	Shame, shame, shame, shame!	耻辱耻辱耻辱耻辱!
[1:22:05]	Shame, shame, shame, shame!	耻辱耻辱耻辱耻辱!
[1:22:16]	I love you, Mike!	我爱你麦克!
[1:22:18]	I love you, Mike!	我爱你麦克!
[1:22:46]	Welcome to the first of	欢迎来到第一场
[1:22:47]	Three debates among the major candidates for president of the United States	美国总统候选人的三轮辩论
[1:22:52]	Sponsored by the Commission on presidential debates	由总统竞选辩论委员会赞助
[1:22:55]	Mr. President, yesterday tens of thousands of people	总统先生昨天有成千上万的人
[1:22:58]	Paraded past the White house	在白宫前游行
[1:23:00]	To demonstrate their concern about the disease, AIDS	展示他们对艾滋疾病的关注
[1:23:03]	A celebrated member of your commission	您竞选团队里的一位名人
[1:23:06]	Magic Johnson quit saying that there was too much inaction	“魔术师”约翰逊退出说政府有太多不作为 (NBA篮球巨星)
[1:23:12]	Where is this widespread feeling coming from	这样广泛的认为本届政府
[1:23:14]	That your administration is not doing enough about AIDS?	在艾滋上做得不够的看法是从哪儿来的?
[1:23:17]	I can’t tell you where it’s coming from	我没法告诉你它从哪儿来
[1:23:20]	But I am very much concerned about AIDS	但我非常关注艾滋问题
[1:23:23]	And I believe that we’ve got the best researchers in the world	而且我相信我们有世界上最好的研究人员
[1:23:26]	Out there at N.I.H. Working the problem	正在国家卫生研究所攻克问题
[1:23:28]	It’s one of the few diseases where behavior matters	这是少部分跟个人行为有关的疾病
[1:23:32]	And I once called on somebody	我曾经跟一些人说
[1:23:33]	Well, change your behavior	改变你的行为
[1:23:35]	If the behavior you’re using…	假如你的行为…
[1:23:36]	Uh, prone to cause AIDS	容易导致艾滋
[1:23:38]	Change the behavior	改变你的行为
[1:23:39]	Next thing I know, one of these Act Up groups is out saying	接着据我所知这些”行动起来”组织就跳出来说
[1:23:43]	Bush ought to change his behavior	布什才该改变他的行为
[1:23:45]	You can’t talk about it rationally	他们不能理性的对话
[1:24:06]	Let everyone here know	希望这儿每个人知道
[1:24:10]	That this is not a political funeral for Mark Fisher	这不是马克・费舍尔的政治葬礼
[1:24:17]	Who wouldn’t let us burn or bury his courage…	他不允许我们火化或埋葬他的勇气
[1:24:24]	Or his love for us	他对我们的爱
[1:24:26]	Any more than he would let the earth take his body	他会让大地收走他的身体
[1:24:30]	Until it was already in flight	直到看到梦想实现
[1:24:34]	He asked for this ceremony	他要求举行这次仪式
[1:24:36]	Not so we could bury him	不是让我们埋葬他
[1:24:38]	But so we could celebrate his undying anger	而是让我们纪念他不息的愤怒
[1:24:44]	This isn’t a political funeral for Mark	这不是马克的政治葬礼
[1:24:47]	It’s a political funeral for the man who killed him	是杀死他的那个人的政治葬礼
[1:24:52]	And so many others	还有很多其他死者
[1:24:54]	And is slowly killing me	还有我也在慢慢死去
[1:24:57]	Whose name curls my tongue	他的名字让我舌头打结
[1:25:00]	And curdles my breath	让我呼吸停止
[1:25:02]	George Bush	乔治・布什
[1:25:04]	We believe you’ll be defeated tomorrow	我们相信你明天会落败
[1:25:07]	Because we believe there’s still some justice left in the universe	因为我们相信这个世界仍然还有一点公道存在
[1:25:12]	And some compassion left in the American people	美国人民仍然还留有怜悯之心
[1:25:17]	But whether or not you are	但不管会不会如此
[1:25:19]	Here and now	现在此刻
[1:25:21]	Standing by Mark’s body	站在马克的尸体旁
[1:25:23]	We put this curse on you	我们诅咒你
[1:25:26]	Mark’s spirit will haunt you	马克的灵魂会纠缠你
[1:25:29]	Until the end of your days	直至你的最后一天
[1:25:32]	So that in the moment of your defeat you’ll remember our defeats	这样你在落败的时候才会想到我们的挫败
[1:25:38]	And in the moment of your death you’ll remember our deaths	你在死去的时候才会想到我们的死去
[1:25:45]	As for Mark	至于马克
[1:25:47]	When the living can no longer speak	当活人无法说话的时候
[1:25:50]	The dead may speak for them	死者会替他们发声
[1:25:53]	Mark’s voice is here with us	马克的声音此刻陪伴我们
[1:25:57]	As is the voice of Pericles who two millennia ago	就像伯利克里在两千年前 (古希腊政治家)
[1:26:02]	Warned the Athenian soldiers who didn’t have to die	他警告那些雅典战士有的不用去死
[1:26:06]	And in whose death he was complicit but who had the nobility to say	有的注定死去但后者足以自豪说
[1:26:12]	That their memorial was the whole earth	他们的墓碑将是整片大地
[1:26:16]	Let the whole earth hear us now	让整片大地现在就聆听我们
[1:26:19]	We beg, we pray, we demand	我们祈求我们祷告我们要求
[1:26:23]	That this epidemic end!	结束这场瘟疫!
[1:26:27]	Not just so we may live	不只要我们活下去
[1:26:31]	But so that Mark’s soul may rest in peace at last	也让马克的灵魂最终获得安息
[1:26:42]	In anger and in grief	带着愤怒带着悲伤
[1:26:45]	This fight is not over	这场战斗不会结束
[1:26:47]	Till all of us are saved	直到我们都得到救赎
[1:26:56]	Act Up	行动起来
[1:26:58]	Fight back	还击回去
[1:26:59]	Fight AIDS	抗击艾滋
[1:28:38]	The debate over AIDS therapy has reignited	关于艾滋治疗的争论重新被点燃
[1:28:40]	With a new European study that challenges the effectiveness of A.Z.T	一项欧洲最新研究质疑叠氮胸苷的有效性
[1:28:45]	The widely prescribed drug used to treat the HIV virus	该药物被广泛用于艾滋治疗
[1:28:48]	This study disproves what every other study proves	这项研究推翻了其他所有研究的成果
[1:28:52]	Is that the drug is at best modest, mostly useless	就是这种药物是最温和的但却几乎无效的
[1:28:56]	Not good for you in the beginning	不适合在初期服用的
[1:28:57]	Two other drugs D.D.I. And D.D.C	另外两种药二脱氧次黄苷和扎西他宾
[1:29:00]	Were approved because they were as good as A.Z.T	当初通过是因为他们拥有和叠氮胸苷一样的效果
[1:29:03]	Which means that they might not be very useful either	这就意味着它们也不怎么管用
[1:29:06]	All this is profoundly dispiriting for advocates of people with AIDS	这一切对艾滋人士产生了严重的挫败情绪
[1:29:11]	We thought we had made some advance in AIDS treatment over the last 5 years	我们以为在过去的5年我们在艾滋治疗上取得了一些进步
[1:29:15]	And these studies show that we really haven’t	而这些研究表明我们没有
[1:29:18]	Many activists now admit	很多活动家现在承认
[1:29:19]	Their demands were short-Sighted	当初的要求显得短浅
[1:29:21]	It’s been a huge expenditure, a waste of money for the U.S. Taxpayer	对美国纳税人来说这是巨大的开销和金钱浪费
[1:29:26]	And it was a naive on our part	而对我们来说是非常的天真
[1:29:28]	To think that the magic bullet was out there	以为存在一颗神奇子弹
[1:29:31]	It just had to be tested in humans and, uh…	只要做过人体实验就…
[1:29:36]	Given to us as the cure	可以作为治疗手段交给我们
[1:29:37]	Many doctors and scientists say the bleak results presented here	很多医生和科学家说这一令人失望的结果
[1:29:41]	Indicate the U.S. Government needs to substantially reorganize	说明美国政府需要大刀阔斧的改革
[1:29:45]	The way it conducts AIDS research	艾滋研究的运作
[1:29:47]	Robert Bazell, NBC news, Berlin	罗伯特・巴泽尔 NBC新闻柏林报道
[1:29:55]	There’s been this big crisis at St. Vincent’s	圣文森医院正陷在一场危机里面
[1:29:57]	About the way that we talk about the, uh, what happened in Berlin	因为我们谈到的关于发生在柏林的事
[1:30:04]	Couple of doctors said they were afraid of people committing suicide now	有的医生说他们现在害怕病人自杀
[1:30:07]	I don’t feel like, oh, now I just…	我不觉得噢现在…
[1:30:11]	I don’t feel oh, now I want to give up	我不觉得噢我现在就得放弃了
[1:30:14]	Now I want to stop living, because A.Z.T. Doesn’t work	我不想再活了因为叠氮胸苷不管用
[1:30:17]	I’ve felt forever now that, I’m not gonna outlive this epidemic	我现在无时无刻不感觉我绝对活不过这场瘟疫结束
[1:30:20]	That I will that I will die from this	我会我会因为这个而死
[1:30:22]	You know, maybe that is our future…	知道吗也许这就是我们的未来…
[1:30:24]	That we’re gonna watch each other die	互相看着对方死去
[1:30:26]	It’s… That’s not a new thought	这不是什么新的想法
[1:30:28]	We’ve been thinking that ever since we started the group	从我们组建这个组织就这样想过
[1:30:31]	The way that the recent spate of deaths	最近突然爆发的这些死亡
[1:30:35]	I don’t know	我不知道
[1:30:36]	It all seems so much more apocalyptic	感觉就像世界末日一样
[1:30:39]	Like the story doesn’t seem…	就像发生的不再…
[1:30:42]	To have this relationship to effective treatment , or a cure anymore	跟有效治疗跟治愈方法有关了
[1:30:47]	It now seems to have this relationship to death	而是和死亡联系在一起
[1:30:49]	It ends, it ends with everybody dying	结局就是所有人死去
[1:30:51]	Will the last person alive in Chelsea please turn out the lights?	切尔西的最后一个活人能不能关上灯?
[1:31:04]	Joining me now is Dr. David Kessler	在我旁边是大卫・凯瑟勒
[1:31:06]	The commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration	食品药物管理局的主管
[1:31:09]	Dr. Kessler, how excited should we get	凯瑟勒博士我们该持多大的乐观态度
[1:31:11]	About this new family of drugs, these protease inhibitors?	对于这一新的蛋白酶抑制剂药物系?
[1:31:14]	I don’t want to over- Promise	我不想过度承诺
[1:31:16]	But these are the most potent drugs we’ve seen against the virus	但这是我们看到过最有效对抗病毒的药物
[1:31:21]	I know that you are pushing for faster F.D.A. Approval of these drugs	据说你正推动这些药物在药管局的更快过审
[1:31:25]	I know that the application has just gone for the first of these drugs to the F.D.A.	据说第一批这种药正向药管局提交申请
[1:31:28]	It’s still gonna take six months	而这还需要六个月
[1:31:30]	We will turn around that application as quick as ever	我们会尽可能快的处理这个申请
[1:31:34]	We’re approving drugs in a matter of months these days	我们最近已经把审查期缩减为月了
[1:31:37]	But you were telling me that’s six months, right?	但你是说仍然需要六个月对吗?
[1:31:39]	That’s as quick as possible	这已经是最快的
[1:31:40]	We may be able to do it even a little quicker	我们或许可以再快那么一点点
[1:31:42]	A split has developed	一场争论升级
[1:31:43]	Between those who want rapid approval based on early indicators of success…	在因前期数据有效而希望尽快过审的人…
[1:31:48]	And the treatment action group, or “TAG”	和治疗行动小组 “TAG”的人之间
[1:31:51]	TAG has asked the F.D.A. To reconsider the accelerated approval process	治疗行动小组要求药管局重新考虑快速审批程序
[1:31:55]	We told the F.D.A	我们跟药管局说
[1:31:57]	No, the company has asked you to approve that drug too soon	不制药公司要求你们审批用的时间太少
[1:32:01]	They need a little bit more data first	他们需要先提供更多的数据
[1:32:04]	Tag is asking the F.D.A. To take a closer look at saquinavir	治疗行动小组要求药管局进一步观察沙喹那韦
[1:32:07]	The first protease inhibitor to seek approval	第一个寻求过审的蛋白酶抑制剂
[1:32:10]	We need to make sure we don’t repeat the mistake we made	我们需要确保我们不会重复
[1:32:13]	With A.Z.T. And D.D.I	在叠氮胸苷和二脱氧次黄苷上犯的错误
[1:32:14]	This is a new class of drugs	这是一种新药
[1:32:16]	We need to know if it works	我们需要知道它是否管用
[1:32:18]	The battle over early approval of Saquinavir	关于沙喹那韦是否提前过审的战役
[1:32:22]	Was a really pivotal moment for treatment activism	是治疗行动主义的重要一刻
[1:32:26]	And we took such shit for it	而我们背上了巨大的骂名
[1:32:28]	From within	而且是来自内部的
[1:32:30]	There are a lot of people who do agree that there are problems, serious problems	有许多人同意我们存在问题严重的问题
[1:32:33]	The way drug testing and drug trials are run	在实验和药物测试上
[1:32:36]	But there are many of us	但我们中很多人
[1:32:37]	Who feel that halting, accelerated approval is not necessarily the answer	认为阻止尽快过审并不是必然的答案
[1:32:44]	Tag made their proposal for this large, simple trial of 18,000 people	治疗行动小组提的建议是18,000人的大型检测
[1:32:49]	That they want to put in a placebo control trial	他们希望加入中和剂的可控实验
[1:32:52]	Where one-Third would get placebo	1/3的实验对象会被用到中和剂
[1:32:55]	They pushed this idea on the F.D.A. At a secret meeting	他们在一次秘密会议中将这个主意推销给药管局
[1:32:58]	Which was not announced to the community	而没有对这个群体公开告知
[1:33:00]	This is something we have fought hard and long for	这是我们一直长期奋斗争取的
[1:33:03]	We’ve been arrested to get accelerated approval through	我们为实现药物尽快过审曾经被逮捕
[1:33:06]	It’s the behavior that I have a problem with	他们的这种行为让我感到不爽
[1:33:09]	It’s the work they’re doing that I have a problem with	他们做的事让我感到不爽
[1:33:12]	And it’s… this is what I am gonna fight	这个…这个就是我要和它斗争的
[1:33:14]	I’m not interested in mud wrestling with the boys	我对跟男生摔泥巴不感兴趣
[1:33:17]	I am absolutely enraged that there are people	我只是愤怒竟然有的人
[1:33:19]	Who have appointed themselves elitist representatives	指定自己作为精英代表
[1:33:22]	And represent themselves as the single voice of this epidemic	并且把他们当成这场瘟疫中唯一的声音
[1:33:25]	I am gonna fight them	我要跟他们抗争
[1:33:27]	My patients are gonna fight them	我的病人要跟他们抗争
[1:33:28]	And you goddamn well better fight them!	你们也最好他妈的给我抗争!
[1:33:37]	Apparently there’s a big discussion	显然上周在这儿有过激烈争论
[1:33:38]	On accelerated approval and protease drug development last week on the floor	关于加快过审和蛋白酶药物的应用
[1:33:42]	So we just wanted to give you sort of the TAG perspective	所以我们只想告诉你们治疗行动小组的观点
[1:33:46]	And give you a sense of our, um…	让你们知道我们…
[1:33:48]	Proposal on protease drug development	关于蛋白酶药物研发的提议
[1:33:49]	So we can start from a baseline of common understanding and knowledge	好让我们建立对它最基本的概念和理解
[1:33:52]	This proposal is not about taking expanded access away	这个提议不是为了取缔更大面积使用
[1:33:55]	Taking accelerated approval away	不是为了取缔快速过审
[1:33:57]	This is about adding something	而是为了补充什么
[1:33:59]	This is about figuring out	为了让我们知道
[1:34:00]	How do we get information about how to actually use these drugs	怎么获得正确使用这些药物的信息
[1:34:03]	We need more people when you have a less powerful drug	当效用不明显的药就需要更多的人
[1:34:07]	If we were dealing with Penicillin we could do it in 20 people	如果只是青霉素 20个人就够了
[1:34:10]	So we put together a large, simple trial	所以我们提出了一个大型的简单测试
[1:34:12]	That tried to synthesize expanded access in a large, simple trial	试着在这个大型测试中扩大各种方法的组合
[1:34:16]	And what we did is we presented it to Merck	我们做的就是把提议交给了默克
[1:34:19]	We presented it to the F.D.A	交给了药管局
[1:34:21]	We wanted to start a community discussion	我们可以开始内部讨论了
[1:34:23]	I just wanted to thank Gregg and Derek for coming to tell us about this…	我首先想感谢格雷格和戴瑞克过来告诉我们这些…
[1:34:29]	Because we hadn’t heard anything	因为我们对这些一无所知
[1:34:31]	Until we read about it in Barron’s	除非去读巴伦周刊 (美国著名杂志)
[1:34:33]	If you wanted to hear the proposal, you could have heard it 40 times	如果你指提议的事你可能已经听过40多遍了
[1:34:36]	It’s been talked about all over	它已经被谈得底朝天
[1:34:37]	Dr. Cotler wants to speak	科特勒医生想发言
[1:34:39]	Tag is talking about getting accurate information	治疗行动小组讨论的是获得准确信息
[1:34:42]	Act Up is talking about making drugs available	“行动起来”讨论的是让药物可获取
[1:34:44]	There should be a way to mesh those two	应该存在一种两者兼顾的方案
[1:34:46]	It’s really not one or the other	而不只是非此即彼
[1:34:48]	Your two groups are really talking past one another	你们两个组织真的是在各说各的
[1:34:51]	Try not to scream	试着别大喊大叫
[1:34:52]	Try not to go at each other’s throats	别去掐对方喉咙
[1:34:55]	But just talk, because the differences…	安静的谈因为你们的分歧…
[1:34:57]	Really can be bridged	真的可以被弥补
[1:35:00]	No, no, no…	不不不…
[1:35:01]	Shh…	嘘…
[1:35:04]	Quiet!	安静!
[1:35:06]	’93 to ’95 were the worst years	1993到1995年是最糟的几年
[1:35:10]	It was a really terrifying time	可怕的一段日子
[1:35:14]	They were the worst years	那是最坏的年代
[1:35:20]	And then we got lucky	然后我们走好运了
[1:36:10]	Um…	呃…
[1:36:12]	You know, just losing…	我们失去了…
[1:36:21]	Just so many…	那么多…
[1:36:24]	So many good people	那么多的好人
[1:36:26]	And… uh…	还有…
[1:36:30]	You know…	你知道的…
[1:36:32]	Like any war	就像一场战争
[1:36:34]	You wonder why you came home	你不知道为什么自己还能回家
[1:36:51]	Mark collected all of our writings	马克收集了所有我们写的东西
[1:36:54]	Pieces that all of us had done	上面写着我们所做的
[1:36:55]	About what had gone wrong in the ways that we studied previous drugs	在研究以前药物上哪些出过错
[1:36:59]	And what we were already doing wrong	哪些是我们已经做错的
[1:37:02]	In terms of trying to figure out whether the protease inhibitors worked	为弄清这个蛋白酶抑制剂是不是有效
[1:37:04]	We published it as this big report and started passing them out everywhere we went	我们把它做成大型报告而且四处分发
[1:37:07]	Let’s do this study	让我们做研究
[1:37:09]	They elevated themselves by their own self-Education about these things	他们通过自学提升了自己的能力
[1:37:14]	Then it became very, very clear that you weren’t gonna mess with these people	然后你就越来越明白你不能糊弄这些人
[1:37:17]	Because they knew exactly what you were talking about	因为他们完全懂你在说什么
[1:37:21]	And they knew exactly what they were talking about	而且也完全懂自己在说什么
[1:37:24]	Activists created a system	艾滋人士们创建了一个机制
[1:37:26]	That was able to do everything faster, better, cheaper	可以让一切完成得更快更好更省
[1:37:30]	More ethically, and more effectively	更道德也更高效
[1:37:33]	They forced people to put together the right clinical trials	他们迫使人们创建正确的临床实验
[1:37:36]	Where you had the patient in mind	让你把病人放在心上
[1:37:39]	And you weren’t cutting corners	而且不能走捷径
[1:37:41]	And of course, the big breakthrough was combination therapy	当然最大的突破是他们摸索的组合治疗法
[1:37:44]	‘Cause mono-Therapy was clearly not the way to go	因为单一治疗法显然行不通
[1:37:47]	So let’s go back into patients	所以我们回到病人中
[1:37:48]	And let’s go back into patients	我们回到病人中
[1:37:50]	With crixivan plus A.Z.T. Plus 3.T.C.	同时采用印地那韦叠氮胸苷和拉米夫定
[1:37:52]	The activists proposed a study design, industry used it	艾滋人士提出的研究设计被行业采纳
[1:37:55]	It got the drug approved in six months	六个月后药物通过了
[1:37:58]	So I was at a meeting in Washington	我在华盛顿参加那次会议
[1:37:59]	And I stood up there	我站在那儿
[1:38:02]	And I showed for the first time the data in the study	第一次展示研究数据
[1:38:06]	The data goes up on the screen	数据在屏幕上滚动
[1:38:08]	And everyone gasps	每个人都在大口吸气
[1:38:09]	And cameras start to click	相机开始不停的闪
[1:38:11]	And just, it’s a realization that	我们都意识到
[1:38:13]	This is, this is really great drug	这是一种真正很好的药
[1:38:15]	And it, it could work	它可以奏效
[1:38:16]	I remember sitting there in a hotel room in Washington, D.C	我记得坐在华盛顿的一个宾馆房间
[1:38:19]	Our hotel banquet room	我们宾馆的宴会厅
[1:38:22]	And just crying	我开始大哭
[1:38:24]	It was like, we did it, we did something	就像我们做到了我们做到了
[1:38:27]	It was too much to take in at that point	那时候真的有些无法承受
[1:38:29]	It wasn’t until we started putting the drugs in our bodies	直到我们将这些药注入自己的身体
[1:38:32]	And we all went home and…	我们都回到家然后…
[1:38:35]	Started, went straight on that regimen that had been on that slide	开始直接按照幻灯片打出的使用说明来
[1:38:40]	Including Crixivan and two nucleoside analogues	包括茚地那韦和两种类核苷
[1:38:44]	And sure enough	然后没错
[1:38:46]	It happened in us within 30 days, all of us	30天后我们的身体就发生了变化所有人的
[1:38:49]	Undetectable, undetectable, undetectable	病毒检测不到检测不到检测不到
[1:38:52]	The dying was stopping	死亡开始停止
[1:38:53]	With triple drug combination	依靠三种药物的综合
[1:38:56]	And if you needed your clinical trial	而且假如你需要临床实验
[1:38:58]	You could just go to these hospitals	你可以随便去什么医院
[1:39:00]	That were not filling up the way they were filling up with people with HIV	那些没有被艾滋病患挤满的医院
[1:39:04]	You would see their kaposi’s sarcoma lesions	你可以看到他们的卡波西肉瘤
[1:39:07]	That had been bright and red and	那些曾经又红又亮
[1:39:09]	Um, big	又大的
[1:39:11]	Melting back into their skin	萎缩变回正常皮肤
[1:39:13]	They were calling it the Lazarus effect	他们把这叫做”拉扎勒斯效应”
[1:39:15]	People who were deathly ill would get put on this drug	那些病入膏肓的人使用这种药
[1:39:18]	All of a sudden, they’re working again	突然的他们又能工作了
[1:39:19]	That was a phenomenal feeling	这种感觉真的很棒
[1:39:22]	It worked	它真的有效
[1:39:23]	You know, we did something remarkable	我们做到了一件了不起的事
[1:39:26]	So that breakthrough	那样的突破
[1:39:27]	You know, that we thought	我们以为
[1:39:29]	Was gonna happen in ’88 or ’89 if we just worked fast enough	会在1988或1989年实现假如我们动作够快
[1:39:34]	You know, it did happen	它确实实现了
[1:39:40]	But not until ’96	却是直到1996年
[1:39:41]	And so…	所以…
[1:39:44]	You know, a lot of people died	很多人死了
[1:39:46]	Maybe if Reagan had started putting money into AIDS a little earlier…	也许假如总统里根早些向艾滋领域拨款…
[1:40:00]	They wouldn’t all be dead	他们就不会都死了
[1:40:05]	I feel very fortunate	我感到很幸运
[1:40:07]	And there’s probably a lot of complicated reasons why	可能有很多复杂原因和为什么
[1:40:12]	But I still find it very difficult to plan for the future	但我仍然感到很难计划我的未来
[1:40:16]	And/ or accept that I will have a long life	以及接受我会活得很长久
[1:40:22]	Which is unfortunate because I’ve had a long life	这其实是不幸的因为我已经有过很长的人生
[1:40:26]	I’ve been living with AIDS for 20 years	我跟艾滋一起生活20年
[1:40:30]	But it’s hard for me to relax into life	我很难放松下来再回到现实中
[1:40:35]	I know lots of us	我知道我们中很多人
[1:40:38]	Went through really difficult times after…	在治好后反而经历了艰难时期…
[1:40:43]	Trying to figure out, well, what do I do now	试着弄清楚接下来要做什么
[1:40:46]	You know	知道吗
[1:40:48]	Not just because I didn’t think I had a future and now I do	不只因为我从没想过会有未来现在有了
[1:40:51]	So I have to make some plans	所以必须做什么计划
[1:40:53]	But…	而是…
[1:40:55]	How do I do something else that is as…	我要怎么去做其他事其他…
[1:40:59]	I mean, it’s a weird word	这个词可能很怪
[1:41:01]	But as fulfilling as that work has been	其他像这件事一样”充实”的事
[1:41:06]	To be that threatened	被那样的威胁
[1:41:11]	With extinction	灭绝的威胁
[1:41:13]	Um…	呃…
[1:41:16]	And	而且
[1:41:18]	To not lay down	为了不倒下
[1:41:22]	To stand up and to fight back	而是站起来和反抗
[1:41:29]	The way we did it	我们所做的事情
[1:41:30]	The way we took care of ourselves and each other	我们对自己和彼此的扶持
[1:41:34]	The goodness that we showed	我们展示出的美好
[1:41:38]	The humanity that we showed the world	我们向这个世界展示出的人性
[1:41:42]	Is just mind-Boggling	真的很难以置信
[1:41:44]	Just incredible	真的很不可思议
[1:41:46]	Fight AIDS!	抗击艾滋!
[1:41:48]	Act Up!	行动起来!
[1:41:49]	Fight back!	还击回去!
[1:41:50]	Fight AIDS!	抗击艾滋!
[1:41:51]	Every single drug that’s out there is because of Act Up	每一种面世的药物都起源自”行动起来”
[1:41:54]	I am convinced	我深信不疑
[1:41:56]	We had the brain power	我们有聪明才智
[1:41:57]	And we had the street power	我们有街头人士
[1:41:58]	We had the good cops and the bad cops	我们有好的警察也有坏的警察
[1:42:00]	The government didn’t get us the drugs	政府没有给我们药
[1:42:02]	No one else got us the drugs	没人给我们药
[1:42:04]	We, act up	我们行动了起来
[1:42:06]	Got those drugs out there	争到了这些药
[1:42:08]	It’s the proudest achievement that the gay population of this world can ever claim	这是这个世界上同性恋人群可以宣称的最自豪的成就
[1:42:15]	We could do it because	我们能做到是因为
[1:42:16]	We could deliver hundreds and sometimes thousands of bodies	我们能集结成千甚至上万的身体
[1:42:20]	We had people with AIDS putting their bodies on the line	我们的艾滋患者可以交出身体排成一队
[1:42:23]	Flopping out in the streets	在街头巷尾示威
[1:42:25]	Saying “fine, this is my body, take me away”	说”这是我的身体拿走好了”
[1:42:28]	I drew the line there	我要划清界限
[1:42:32]	I didn’t want to get arrested	我没想要被捕
[1:42:35]	That far I wouldn’t go	我没到那么疯
[1:43:01]	I’d like to close with words written by fellow AIDS activist, Vito Russo	我想以艾滋活动家同伴维托・罗素的话做结
[1:43:05]	“When future generations ask what we did in the war”	“当后代子孙问我们在战争中做了什么”
[1:43:10]	“We have to be able to tell them that we were out here fighting”	“我们必须能够告诉他们我们在这儿战斗过”
[1:43:15]	“And we have to leave a legacy”	“我们必须留下一份遗产”
[1:43:16]	“To the generations of people who will come after us”	“给我们后来的追随者”
[1:43:20]	“Remember that someday”	“记住在某一天”
[1:43:21]	“The AIDS crisis will be over”	“艾滋灾难会终结”
[1:43:24]	“And when that day has come and gone”	“而在那天到来和过去”
[1:43:27]	“There will be a people alive on this earth”	“这片土地仍然会有活人”
[1:43:30]	“Gay people and straight people”	“有同性恋和异性恋”
[1:43:32]	“Black people and white people”	“黑人和白人”
[1:43:33]	“Men and women”	“男人和女人”
[1:43:35]	“Who will hear the story”	“他们会听到一个故事”
[1:43:37]	“That once… there was a terrible disease”	“就是曾经有一个可怕的疾病”
[1:43:40]	“And that a brave group of people stood up and fought”	“而一群勇敢的人们站出来和它搏斗”
[1:43:44]	“And in some cases died, so that others might live and be free”	“有的人牺牲了好换得其他人的生命与自由生活”
[1:44:08]	We might have a federal charge against us…	我们可能会犯下联邦罪行…
[1:44:11]	Great! Leavenworth, here we come!	好极了莱文沃思市我们来了!
[1:44:17]	An invoice?	发票呢?
[1:44:32]	Ouch, that hurts	噢很疼啊
[1:44:41]	Information is essential	信息是全部
[1:44:43]	So that doctors and patients can make intelligent treatment decisions	这样医生和病人才能做出明智的治疗对策
[1:44:50]	Okay. Do I have to hold the red button?	好的我要一直按着红色键吗?
[1:44:53]	No	不用
[1:44:55]	I’m really glad to see everybody here	我很高兴在这里看到大家
[1:44:57]	You look really good	你们看上去真的很好
[1:45:03]	I’d like to suggest that we not be unethical	我的建议是不要违反道德的
[1:45:05]	To do a randomized trial of two different prevention programs	去参加两种不同预防计划的随机实验
[1:45:12]	If we don’t eradicate HIV everywhere	如果我们不能在每个地方根除艾滋
[1:45:14]	We will never eradicate it anywhere	那我们在哪儿都不可能根除艾滋
[1:45:21]	We may march without incident	我们要低调游行
[1:45:23]	Or they may arrest us	否则他们会拘捕我们
[1:45:26]	But it’ll be fun	不过那也很有趣
[1:45:39]	We’re going to Ad-Min today	我们今天要去市政厅哦
[1:46:01]	In just over, um, two years	在不到两年的时间
[1:46:05]	Um, that drug went from test tube to full approval	那种药就从试管到获得了完全通过

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